Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI for those saying "why not just buy in Glover Park" - you haven't bought recently. There are no 3 bedroom condos in Glover Park (or really, EOTP period that doesn't need extensive renovation costing 100k +) that are under 750K, except for a handful that have HOA fees of over $800/month. There are plenty of renovated condos, and a number of rowhomes that don't need more than 30-40K of renovation, in Petworth for under 750K.

You can't buy a split/converted to condo bay-front rowhouse in Bloomingdale for less than $575K, and that's for the lower half. The top two floors will easily be $800K.

Nobody buys boutique housing at these prices and expects to also raise children in that space.

WotP might as well be the suburbs. It's boring. It's over. It's too far from downtown. It's Rockthesda. Why pay to live in DC if you can't actually get there without a car?

WotP has many houses that are short walks to metro and/or buses so you don't need a car. The distance to downtown from many parts WotP is also about equidistance from Petworth to downtown. Both are close to Rock Creek park. Both have some fun restaurants and tree lined streets. To me, WotP and Petworth are essentially equivalent with three major differences: 1) Petworth property values are less so it is easier to get more space with a reasonable amount of cash. 2) Petworth is more diverse. 3) you don't have to win a lottery to get into a good school if you live WotP.

fascinating--: http://www.washingtonpost.com/realestate/neighborhood-profile-14th-street-heights/2012/08/23/ec4563c8-e7f4-11e1-a3d2-2a05679928ef_story.html
14th street heights is upshur to emerson! 16th street heights is the rest!

14th St Heights is not made up -- it is what is on my property deed description from the 1910s for my bungalow It's crazy the things people drink hater-ade over on DCUM.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our neighbors just sold their detached bungalow for $799K. House couple doors down went for $600K one year before. I would love to live in Cleveland Park near the swim club but alas I am not a lawyer nor did I inherit $$ and DH and I don't do apartments, we are always shlepping outdoor gear like kayaks or muddy coolers on the weekend. One thing I notice about WOTP is that the traffic is horrible. EOTP I can drive downtown via New Hampshire/Sherman in 15 minutes. Also, there are a lot of cute young people moving into the area, seen at the metro stop, as opposed to the shriveled hippies I see most of the time EOTP. Eye candy a definite plus. Lots of neat new restaurants opened along 11th. It is still shooty though.

It's a really good thing you are not going to get old and shriveled yourself, at any point. You should bottle that elixir and market it!

Where are the detached bungalows in Petworth and what is the IB school for the detached 1920s homes in Petworth?

There aren't actually many at all - they're mostly exclusively row houses. Check out the 4400 block of Illinois, 800 block of Buchanan. Also, the 1200 blocks of Buchanan, Crittenden, Decatur, Emerson - though I bet many there would not call their neighborhood Petworth, and opt for something made up like "14th street heights"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our neighbors just sold their detached bungalow for $799K. House couple doors down went for $600K one year before. I would love to live in Cleveland Park near the swim club but alas I am not a lawyer nor did I inherit $$ and DH and I don't do apartments, we are always shlepping outdoor gear like kayaks or muddy coolers on the weekend. One thing I notice about WOTP is that the traffic is horrible. EOTP I can drive downtown via New Hampshire/Sherman in 15 minutes. Also, there are a lot of cute young people moving into the area, seen at the metro stop, as opposed to the shriveled hippies I see most of the time EOTP. Eye candy a definite plus. Lots of neat new restaurants opened along 11th. It is still shooty though.

It's a really good thing you are not going to get old and shriveled yourself, at any point. You should bottle that elixir and market it!

Where are the detached bungalows in Petworth and what is the IB school for the detached 1920s homes in Petworth?

Ha ha luckily my eyeballs face outwards.

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Anonymous wrote:You can have your shooty neighborhood. I'll take good schools and the metro.

+1

We have Metro, not my favorite mode of transportation exactly. And buses and Car2Go and bikes and feet and our own cars. We just can't afford a house WOTP. We looked!

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Recently fully renovated? By that I mean new electrical / plumbing / central AC, not just fresh paint and a crappy addition on the back.

In Petworth, that $$ would get you a top of the line renovation. If you got a fully renovated place, that's a steal, but not common.

Recent renovations and non-"crappy additions" are not always as high on the priority list as superior schools.

Ah, the perpetual DCUM comeback - "You don't love your kid as much as I do" directed at anyone who puts anything - a shorter commute, a larger or newer house, a more walkable neighborhood, a neighborhood with greater SES diversity, anything, over a school with better test scores and fewer disruptive kids.

Recently fully renovated? By that I mean new electrical / plumbing / central AC, not just fresh paint and a crappy addition on the back.

In Petworth, that $$ would get you a top of the line renovation. If you got a fully renovated place, that's a steal, but not common.

Recent renovations and non-"crappy additions" are not always as high on the priority list as superior schools.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And I agree about the schools. While I do love many things abuot the neighborhood I am disappointed by two things.

1) the failure of anyone to establish a restaurant on the 14th/Colorado stretch. Our hopes are constantly revived, only to be dashed when its clear that the planned whatever isn't going to pan out (a few years ago it was a pizza joint with a roof deck, more recently a bar and grill).

This is getting off topic, but I'm also disappointed in that corner. However, if you haven't already, try Simple Bar, a few blocks northeast on Georgia, south of Missouri. It's great for kids.

Off topic again, but will the corner store open back up? Did they find the killer? My child loved to go there after the Deal bus dropped them off.

Anonymous wrote:You can have your shooty neighborhood. I'll take good schools and the metro.

Again, not sure why it isn't clear to you that some of us cannot afford to live WOTP. It's not about hipster-ness, it's about having enough space for a family while still being close enough to access public transit. Also, while there is certainly crime in Petworth and I wouldn't walk alone up Georgia Ave. at midnight for fear of getting mugged, random residents are not the target of shootings - it's gang violence.

Anonymous wrote:
And I agree about the schools. While I do love many things abuot the neighborhood I am disappointed by two things.

1) the failure of anyone to establish a restaurant on the 14th/Colorado stretch. Our hopes are constantly revived, only to be dashed when its clear that the planned whatever isn't going to pan out (a few years ago it was a pizza joint with a roof deck, more recently a bar and grill).

This is getting off topic, but I'm also disappointed in that corner. However, if you haven't already, try Simple Bar, a few blocks northeast on Georgia, south of Missouri. It's great for kids.

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What is 14th Street Heights? I always thought the neighborhood around Hamilton Park was called 16th Street Heights? 75% of kids in Ward 4 go to schools outside of their neighborhood school that they are IB to. So that includes Petworth and 16th Street Heights and Crestwood etc. Kids in 16th Street Heights go to over 60 different schools...private, charter and OOB

I believe it is an attempt on the part of the DC business owners on the stretch of 14th between Alison and Delafield or so to drum up excitement and business by making it seem hip and happening. There are, in fact, some signs/flags that were installed a couple years ago proclaiming it "14th street dining and shopping district" or something to that effect. I am a fan of Highlands Café, happy the art galleries have moved in and my kids love exploring Ruff n ready but I am still waiting for it to become a real 'district' in any sense of the word.

At any rate, we live on 14th street, north of this area, and officially are Brightwood park, but everyone confuses that with just Brightwood, which is to the east of us (more like the other side of Georgia).

And I agree about the schools. While I do love many things abuot the neighborhood I am disappointed by two things.

1) the failure of anyone to establish a restaurant on the 14th/Colorado stretch. Our hopes are constantly revived, only to be dashed when its clear that the planned whatever isn't going to pan out (a few years ago it was a pizza joint with a roof deck, more recently a bar and grill).

2) the lack of a neighborhood school, although we are now redistricted for West, which is promising.

There is an open house tomorrow morning: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/442483.page

What is 14th Street Heights? I always thought the neighborhood around Hamilton Park was called 16th Street Heights? 75% of kids in Ward 4 go to schools outside of their neighborhood school that they are IB to. So that includes Petworth and 16th Street Heights and Crestwood etc. Kids in 16th Street Heights go to over 60 different schools...private, charter and OOB

I believe it is an attempt on the part of the DC business owners on the stretch of 14th between Alison and Delafield or so to drum up excitement and business by making it seem hip and happening. There are, in fact, some signs/flags that were installed a couple years ago proclaiming it "14th street dining and shopping district" or something to that effect. I am a fan of Highlands Café, happy the art galleries have moved in and my kids love exploring Ruff n ready but I am still waiting for it to become a real 'district' in any sense of the word.

At any rate, we live on 14th street, north of this area, and officially are Brightwood park, but everyone confuses that with just Brightwood, which is to the east of us (more like the other side of Georgia).

And I agree about the schools. While I do love many things abuot the neighborhood I am disappointed by two things.

1) the failure of anyone to establish a restaurant on the 14th/Colorado stretch. Our hopes are constantly revived, only to be dashed when its clear that the planned whatever isn't going to pan out (a few years ago it was a pizza joint with a roof deck, more recently a bar and grill).

2) the lack of a neighborhood school, although we are now redistricted for West, which is promising.

Anonymous wrote:You can have your shooty neighborhood. I'll take good schools and the metro.

+1

You can have your shooty neighborhood. I'll take good schools and the metro.