Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 17:16     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
I'd rather hire the country club kid who went to TJ. Smarts and connections.


Too bad, you're late by a century. This is a new era.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 17:14     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Peyton to pupils: prepping is fundamental to success.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 17:13     Subject: Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with hard work and preparation. Nothing. Nothing at all.


And you think someone disagrees with this?


LOL....most of the posters on this list....


Actually, at least one has a misunderstanding about this, or simply pretends to misunderstand. No one suggests that anything is wrong with hard work and preparation.
People are suggesting that it is inappropriate for people to "prep" kids by using materials that attempt to recreate the AAP identification tests. Prepping kids in this way makes the scores unreliable to the point that some schools are simply not using them anymore. These particular tests are not meant to be prepped for and prepping results in scores that are not useful to the schools.

These threads are only about prepping for the AAP identification tests. They are not about prepping for any other type of testing, nor are they about effective ways to teach math.

Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 17:06     Subject: Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Anonymous wrote:I'd rather hire the country club kid who went to TJ. Smarts and connections.


a rare breed methinks.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 16:45     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Bush-lite lost his fortune in the recession. His connections have deserted him. He spends most of his time drinking beer and playing lacrosse with his buddies.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 16:44     Subject: Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with hard work and preparation. Nothing. Nothing at all.


And you think someone disagrees with this?


LOL....most of the posters on this list....
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 16:43     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
I'd rather hire the country club kid who went to TJ. Smarts and connections.


I am afraid to disappoint you. Bush-lite at the country club flunked out of TJ his freshman year.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 16:33     Subject: Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Anonymous wrote:There's nothing wrong with hard work and preparation. Nothing. Nothing at all.


And you think someone disagrees with this?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 16:32     Subject: Bad News for Test Prep Parents
I'd rather hire the country club kid who went to TJ. Smarts and connections.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 16:08     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Wow, your kid's at TJ, he must be a genius Once your child gets past high school, no one in the real world will care, beck, colleges barely care. How many TJ kids actually go to ivies? Answer, not that many.


In today's world, I'll put my money on the kid from TJ rather than "Bush-lite" from the country club. Some folk do not not appreciate the slow grinding global changes over the last 25 years!
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 15:13     Subject: Bad News for Test Prep Parents
There's nothing wrong with hard work and preparation. Nothing. Nothing at all.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 14:42     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The only reason some of the kids appear to "keep up" is that they are going home to Mommy or Daddy or a paid tutor going over all their work with them and helping them to understand. There were kids in my child's AAP who had no other activities after school. They'd go to their tutor or a storefront math place...sometimes a math or science oriented club. No playing in other kids backyards, no running or riding bikes up and down the sidewalks. No sports as they got older.

They could not keep up just by going to school and doing the assigned homework. They needed a lot of extra help to understand their schoolwork. One of the mothers asked me, when our children were in third grade, how much time I was spending at night going over my child's homework. I looked at her in a puzzled way and said my child did homework quickly after school and then went out to play all afternoon with the other kids in the neighborhood. Apparently, the other child was not completing schoolwork and needed to finish work from the day in addition to homework every night. This child stayed in AAP but I suspect continued to need help. My child is at TJ now and the other child is not, so I don't know what is happening now for this child.

So, it is not necessarily true that just because a child stays in AAP, they must be doing fine. There are definitely kids in AAP who can only stay there because of hours of extra help and re-teaching every night, with little time for other aspects of their growth and development.


Wow, your kid's at TJ, he must be a genius Once your child gets past high school, no one in the real world will care, beck, colleges barely care. How many TJ kids actually go to ivies? Answer, not that many.


plenty go to MIT though. In fact, MIT takes more kids from TJ than any other high school.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 14:17     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Anonymous wrote:
The only reason some of the kids appear to "keep up" is that they are going home to Mommy or Daddy or a paid tutor going over all their work with them and helping them to understand. There were kids in my child's AAP who had no other activities after school. They'd go to their tutor or a storefront math place...sometimes a math or science oriented club. No playing in other kids backyards, no running or riding bikes up and down the sidewalks. No sports as they got older.

They could not keep up just by going to school and doing the assigned homework. They needed a lot of extra help to understand their schoolwork. One of the mothers asked me, when our children were in third grade, how much time I was spending at night going over my child's homework. I looked at her in a puzzled way and said my child did homework quickly after school and then went out to play all afternoon with the other kids in the neighborhood. Apparently, the other child was not completing schoolwork and needed to finish work from the day in addition to homework every night. This child stayed in AAP but I suspect continued to need help. My child is at TJ now and the other child is not, so I don't know what is happening now for this child.

So, it is not necessarily true that just because a child stays in AAP, they must be doing fine. There are definitely kids in AAP who can only stay there because of hours of extra help and re-teaching every night, with little time for other aspects of their growth and development.


Wow, your kid's at TJ, he must be a genius Once your child gets past high school, no one in the real world will care, beck, colleges barely care. How many TJ kids actually go to ivies? Answer, not that many.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 13:08     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents
Tell that to Peyton. We all want to be like Peyton and according to Peyton who cannot overstate the importance of preparation of prep and discipline in homo sapiens.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2013 12:37     Subject: Re:Bad News for Test Prep Parents

The only reason some of the kids appear to "keep up" is that they are going home to Mommy or Daddy or a paid tutor going over all their work with them and helping them to understand. There were kids in my child's AAP who had no other activities after school. They'd go to their tutor or a storefront math place...sometimes a math or science oriented club. No playing in other kids backyards, no running or riding bikes up and down the sidewalks. No sports as they got older.

They could not keep up just by going to school and doing the assigned homework. They needed a lot of extra help to understand their schoolwork. One of the mothers asked me, when our children were in third grade, how much time I was spending at night going over my child's homework. I looked at her in a puzzled way and said my child did homework quickly after school and then went out to play all afternoon with the other kids in the neighborhood. Apparently, the other child was not completing schoolwork and needed to finish work from the day in addition to homework every night. This child stayed in AAP but I suspect continued to need help. My child is at TJ now and the other child is not, so I don't know what is happening now for this child.

So, it is not necessarily true that just because a child stays in AAP, they must be doing fine. There are definitely kids in AAP who can only stay there because of hours of extra help and re-teaching every night, with little time for other aspects of their growth and development.