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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

I agree. OP, I think a lot of the replies you're getting are from the entitled nannies who seem to frequent this site. OP, I would cut her pay to what you can afford and give her time off or ask her to work part time. If you ask her to work part time for that money, pay her at a higher hourly rate than you were previously for that time to show that you appreciate her. Tell her you understand if she needs to find another job but of course would love for her to resume working full time once you're also working full time.

I am not a nanny. I am a mother who employs a nanny. I would do anything possible to make sure our nanny stayed with our family. Continuity of care and the relationship with my children matter much more than money (assuming we are not going to be homeless). I can think of 100 other things I would cut before I would cut the nanny.

Ok, that's a nice sentiment. But nanny is a MAJOR expense in our household. I don't think there's really anything we could cut that would allow us to continue paying our nanny responsibly if we were looking at long-term unemployment. IE, I am not going to get a home equity loan or break into my 401k to pay the nanny while I'm unemployed. That would be completely crazy. And at a certain point, it would be better to help the nanny start looking for a more stable situation than asking her to stay on. The nanny would probably prefer severance pay and time off to look for a new job than just riding out the last dollars until we absolutely can't afford her.

Why not learn to live on one income, so your roller coaster child care can stop?

Maybe because it is not actually a roller coaster? It is actually working out quite well. There's no requirement that you live your life according to the worst possible scenario. And ultimately my family is more financially secure by me working, not less. What about the "roller coaster" that would result if my DH lost his job and I had spent years out of the work force? That sounds a lot worse.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

I agree. OP, I think a lot of the replies you're getting are from the entitled nannies who seem to frequent this site. OP, I would cut her pay to what you can afford and give her time off or ask her to work part time. If you ask her to work part time for that money, pay her at a higher hourly rate than you were previously for that time to show that you appreciate her. Tell her you understand if she needs to find another job but of course would love for her to resume working full time once you're also working full time.

I am not a nanny. I am a mother who employs a nanny. I would do anything possible to make sure our nanny stayed with our family. Continuity of care and the relationship with my children matter much more than money (assuming we are not going to be homeless). I can think of 100 other things I would cut before I would cut the nanny.

Ok, that's a nice sentiment. But nanny is a MAJOR expense in our household. I don't think there's really anything we could cut that would allow us to continue paying our nanny responsibly if we were looking at long-term unemployment. IE, I am not going to get a home equity loan or break into my 401k to pay the nanny while I'm unemployed. That would be completely crazy. And at a certain point, it would be better to help the nanny start looking for a more stable situation than asking her to stay on. The nanny would probably prefer severance pay and time off to look for a new job than just riding out the last dollars until we absolutely can't afford her.

We are talking about a furlough that could be a week or two, possibly slightly longer. This isn't about long term unemployment. If you have one parent who is unemployed than that person can provide childcare and if/when down the road they regain employment you can find new childcare.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

I agree. OP, I think a lot of the replies you're getting are from the entitled nannies who seem to frequent this site. OP, I would cut her pay to what you can afford and give her time off or ask her to work part time. If you ask her to work part time for that money, pay her at a higher hourly rate than you were previously for that time to show that you appreciate her. Tell her you understand if she needs to find another job but of course would love for her to resume working full time once you're also working full time.

I am not a nanny. I am a mother who employs a nanny. I would do anything possible to make sure our nanny stayed with our family. Continuity of care and the relationship with my children matter much more than money (assuming we are not going to be homeless). I can think of 100 other things I would cut before I would cut the nanny.

Ok, that's a nice sentiment. But nanny is a MAJOR expense in our household. I don't think there's really anything we could cut that would allow us to continue paying our nanny responsibly if we were looking at long-term unemployment. IE, I am not going to get a home equity loan or break into my 401k to pay the nanny while I'm unemployed. That would be completely crazy. And at a certain point, it would be better to help the nanny start looking for a more stable situation than asking her to stay on. The nanny would probably prefer severance pay and time off to look for a new job than just riding out the last dollars until we absolutely can't afford her.

Why not learn to live on one income, so your roller coaster child care can stop?

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

I agree. OP, I think a lot of the replies you're getting are from the entitled nannies who seem to frequent this site. OP, I would cut her pay to what you can afford and give her time off or ask her to work part time. If you ask her to work part time for that money, pay her at a higher hourly rate than you were previously for that time to show that you appreciate her. Tell her you understand if she needs to find another job but of course would love for her to resume working full time once you're also working full time.

I am not a nanny. I am a mother who employs a nanny. I would do anything possible to make sure our nanny stayed with our family. Continuity of care and the relationship with my children matter much more than money (assuming we are not going to be homeless). I can think of 100 other things I would cut before I would cut the nanny.

Ok, that's a nice sentiment. But nanny is a MAJOR expense in our household. I don't think there's really anything we could cut that would allow us to continue paying our nanny responsibly if we were looking at long-term unemployment. IE, I am not going to get a home equity loan or break into my 401k to pay the nanny while I'm unemployed. That would be completely crazy. And at a certain point, it would be better to help the nanny start looking for a more stable situation than asking her to stay on. The nanny would probably prefer severance pay and time off to look for a new job than just riding out the last dollars until we absolutely can't afford her.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

I agree. OP, I think a lot of the replies you're getting are from the entitled nannies who seem to frequent this site. OP, I would cut her pay to what you can afford and give her time off or ask her to work part time. If you ask her to work part time for that money, pay her at a higher hourly rate than you were previously for that time to show that you appreciate her. Tell her you understand if she needs to find another job but of course would love for her to resume working full time once you're also working full time.

I am not a nanny. I am a mother who employs a nanny. I would do anything possible to make sure our nanny stayed with our family. Continuity of care and the relationship with my children matter much more than money (assuming we are not going to be homeless). I can think of 100 other things I would cut before I would cut the nanny.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

How is OP helping the nanny? The OP wants the nanny to stop working for her and then remain available to return to work when it is convenient for her.

Just like the government and all the private sector companies who have done this as well.

Are you people really this stupid that you think nannies should be exempt? They're a dime a dozen.

Is your child's care not worth more than your "dime a dozen" poor quality broken-English baby sitter? In just another year or two, you'll be paying through your nose for various therapies and tutoring, in a desparate attempt to repair the consequences of your bargain "dime a dozen", so called nannies.

"Penny wise and pound foolish"

That's racist. We have a friend who only hired college graduate Caucasian nannies to teach their kids. The ended up getting nickel and dimmed being held hostage by their contract, no cleaning, no errands, no laundry without extra pay. The kids are grown up and both are learning disabled and behind.

On the other hand we have a friend who had a Filipino nanny who didn't go to college, her English wasn't perfect, but she read and loved the kids like her own, not just some businesses Contract. She cooked , cleaned did above and beyond without being asked or asking for more money and their kids are in aap.

Point being, a nanny really didn't have that much influence except for basic reading, feeding and caring.

Hahah YES!!!! let's all blame the nannies (and teachers, daycare workers and so while we're at it) for all the disabled children in the world!
Thank god you are here poster to let us know the real reason some children are BORN this way

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

How is OP helping the nanny? The OP wants the nanny to stop working for her and then remain available to return to work when it is convenient for her.

Just like the government and all the private sector companies who have done this as well.

Are you people really this stupid that you think nannies should be exempt? They're a dime a dozen.

Is your child's care not worth more than your "dime a dozen" poor quality broken-English baby sitter? In just another year or two, you'll be paying through your nose for various therapies and tutoring, in a desparate attempt to repair the consequences of your bargain "dime a dozen", so called nannies.

"Penny wise and pound foolish"

That's racist. We have a friend who only hired college graduate Caucasian nannies to teach their kids. The ended up getting nickel and dimmed being held hostage by their contract, no cleaning, no errands, no laundry without extra pay. The kids are grown up and both are learning disabled and behind.

On the other hand we have a friend who had a Filipino nanny who didn't go to college, her English wasn't perfect, but she read and loved the kids like her own, not just some businesses Contract. She cooked , cleaned did above and beyond without being asked or asking for more money and their kids are in aap.

Point being, a nanny really didn't have that much influence except for basic reading, feeding and caring.

Please don't tell me you're "college-educated".

Um you realize the learning disablity has nothing to do with the nanny. So your point is just stupid.

And do you take on extra work with out asking for pay??

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

How is OP helping the nanny? The OP wants the nanny to stop working for her and then remain available to return to work when it is convenient for her.

Just like the government and all the private sector companies who have done this as well.

Are you people really this stupid that you think nannies should be exempt? They're a dime a dozen.

Is your child's care not worth more than your "dime a dozen" poor quality broken-English baby sitter? In just another year or two, you'll be paying through your nose for various therapies and tutoring, in a desparate attempt to repair the consequences of your bargain "dime a dozen", so called nannies.

"Penny wise and pound foolish"

That's racist. We have a friend who only hired college graduate Caucasian nannies to teach their kids. The ended up getting nickel and dimmed being held hostage by their contract, no cleaning, no errands, no laundry without extra pay. The kids are grown up and both are learning disabled and behind.

On the other hand we have a friend who had a Filipino nanny who didn't go to college, her English wasn't perfect, but she read and loved the kids like her own, not just some businesses Contract. She cooked , cleaned did above and beyond without being asked or asking for more money and their kids are in aap.

Point being, a nanny really didn't have that much influence except for basic reading, feeding and caring.

Please don't tell me you're "college-educated".

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

How is OP helping the nanny? The OP wants the nanny to stop working for her and then remain available to return to work when it is convenient for her.

Just like the government and all the private sector companies who have done this as well.

Are you people really this stupid that you think nannies should be exempt? They're a dime a dozen.

Is your child's care not worth more than your "dime a dozen" poor quality broken-English baby sitter? In just another year or two, you'll be paying through your nose for various therapies and tutoring, in a desparate attempt to repair the consequences of your bargain "dime a dozen", so called nannies.

"Penny wise and pound foolish"

That's racist. We have a friend who only hired college graduate Caucasian nannies to teach their kids. The ended up getting nickel and dimmed being held hostage by their contract, no cleaning, no errands, no laundry without extra pay. The kids are grown up and both are learning disabled and behind.

On the other hand we have a friend who had a Filipino nanny who didn't go to college, her English wasn't perfect, but she read and loved the kids like her own, not just some businesses Contract. She cooked , cleaned did above and beyond without being asked or asking for more money and their kids are in aap.

Point being, a nanny really didn't have that much influence except for basic reading, feeding and caring.

I suppose there are some of you switching mid year to public schools then? Can you get your tuition back? How about your cleaning lady as another pointed out?It seems ridiculous to have to fire your nanny in this situation even temporarily.

I agree with PP- you cant afford a nanny. If this is your reaction - you should be finding an alternate less expensive form of childcare from now on.

I am a private tutor/teacher and I make a good salary but am self employed. I have several parents who employ me who are now out of work. They are not stopping my work with their kids. They have money set aside to make sure there is no interruption in their kids lives should something like this happen. So should you. I have money set aside for when people move on from my teaching, find alternate instruction, graduate and go to college etc. and sometimes with some of those scenarios things can happen without warning and my income can plummet temporarily. I have three kids of my own with many expenses between them for schooling, care, and activities and use savings until I can replace income in that case. And yes, I am the sole breadwinner over here.
The fact that you have to consider furloughing your nanny is a sign that you need to change your situation or your expenses.

If OP really can't afford the nanny during the shutdown and has to let her go then she has to let her go. If there isn't any money to pay her then there aren't many options.

I am not sure how much this will really benefit OP. If she furloughs her nanny she can't expect her nanny to wait out the shutdown and return. Most nannies make a fraction of a fed's salary and need every paycheck to make ends meet. Unless the nanny has a spouse with a good income or a savings account from past income, the nanny won't be able to go long without money. So if she takes another job now OP has to advertise, interview and hire a new nanny and have her trained and ready to go for when the shutdown ends. Yet no one knows when that will be so the new nanny would have to be okay with not having a set start date - which makes giving notice or budgeting very difficult.

Secondly most people who work full time realize that the nanny is the primary caregiver, and the person spending the most waking hours in the week with their child/children. Having multiple caregivers and breaking these strong attachments is not healthy for the kids. Not only did the nanny they cared about 'disappear', they also now have a stranger who doesn't know them, or their routines, or their likes/dislikes and they have to start the relationship and bonding all over again. Additionally OP has to deal with everything that goes into having a new nanny and the adjustment period.

So other than the new nanny who now has a job or better job, no one else wins. The old nanny has to find new work, Op has to find and train a new nanny with an open start date, and the kids lose an important relationship, continuity and have to get to know another person who is suddenly in their home and lives 50+ hours a week.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

I agree. OP, I think a lot of the replies you're getting are from the entitled nannies who seem to frequent this site. OP, I would cut her pay to what you can afford and give her time off or ask her to work part time. If you ask her to work part time for that money, pay her at a higher hourly rate than you were previously for that time to show that you appreciate her. Tell her you understand if she needs to find another job but of course would love for her to resume working full time once you're also working full time.

The REAL question here is:
Is your child "entitled" to any
"continuity of care"?

Or is that irrelevant?

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

I agree. OP, I think a lot of the replies you're getting are from the entitled nannies who seem to frequent this site. OP, I would cut her pay to what you can afford and give her time off or ask her to work part time. If you ask her to work part time for that money, pay her at a higher hourly rate than you were previously for that time to show that you appreciate her. Tell her you understand if she needs to find another job but of course would love for her to resume working full time once you're also working full time.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

How is OP helping the nanny? The OP wants the nanny to stop working for her and then remain available to return to work when it is convenient for her.

Just like the government and all the private sector companies who have done this as well.

Are you people really this stupid that you think nannies should be exempt? They're a dime a dozen.

Is your child's care not worth more than your "dime a dozen" poor quality broken-English baby sitter? In just another year or two, you'll be paying through your nose for various therapies and tutoring, in a desparate attempt to repair the consequences of your bargain "dime a dozen", so called nannies.

"Penny wise and pound foolish"

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Anonymous wrote:I am sorry but I am going to stick up for OP here. He is trying to help the nanny out until the temporary situation resolves itself. What do you expect people to do? Companies cut people all the time without warning.

How is OP helping the nanny? The OP wants the nanny to stop working for her and then remain available to return to work when it is convenient for her.

Just like the government and all the private sector companies who have done this as well.

Are you people really this stupid that you think nannies should be exempt? They're a dime a dozen.