Anonymous wrote:Ha if racist thoughts were proof of a hate crime, half of conservative offenses would be guilty of hate crimes.

The killer in Oklahoma openly tweeted he hated white people. And bragged about wanting to kill some 'woods.' That's a bit different than having thoughts.

I've never met a conservative that was racist. Liberals have done a good job painting conservatives all as racist homophobic people who hate anyone that doesn't look like them but that's not the truth. Conservatives want everyone to succeed, regardless of color. Seriously there is nothing a conservative loves more than hearing how some person from some poor country whether it be India, Laos, Somalia, Honduras, whatever, comes over here with nothing and makes a good life for themselves. Or even people in America who started with nothing and built themselves up. It's not like all conservatives are in some old white all boys club and don't want to see anyone else succeed. They want everyone to work hard and do well. Seriously. I know that doesn't fit into what a lot of liberals want people to think cause you get more votes if you polarize and depict people as hateful. But it's the truth.

Ha if racist thoughts were proof of a hate crime, half of conservative offenses would be guilty of hate crimes.

Anonymous wrote:And why is there barely any media coverage on this? Seems to me if someone posts that they hate white people and then go and kills a random white person for no reason, that is a hate crime. If someone posted they hated gay people or black people, and then went and killed a random gay guy or African-American woman for the thrill of it, that would constitute a hate crime, no? Just wondering cause it seems like we should be outraged by hate crimes on the whole. And even white males can be subject of that but no one wants to talk about it. Why?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/#ixzz2chtAj4cJ

Because it doesn't serve the media's liberal agenda.

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after everything you said about Zimmerman you can hardly find proof of a racial motive without being a complete hypocrite.

The runner did not assault the kids. Martin assaulted Z.

Martin had a chance to defend himself. The runner never saw them coming. He was shot in the back.

after everything you said about Zimmerman you can hardly find proof of a racial motive without being a complete hypocrite.

The runner did not assault the kids. Martin assaulted Z.

Anonymous wrote:Did the young runner assault the kids that shot him?

No, they shot him from behind so he never had a chance to defend himself.

Did the young runner assault the kids that shot him?

Anonymous wrote:Just 3 more young thugs with a gun killing someone who doesn't look like them, for no reason other than boredom, lack of values/morals, and who knows, maybe they enjoy the no-responsibilities life in prison.

after everything you said about Zimmerman you can hardly find proof of a racial motive without being a complete hypocrite.

Just 3 more young thugs with a gun killing someone who doesn't look like them, for no reason other than boredom, lack of values/morals, and who knows, maybe they enjoy the no-responsibilities life in prison.

if its found to be a hate crime tack on that charge and move on.

stop entertaining these stupid arguments. the point is to get you excited about some nonsense.

again, justice is being served in this case. im not sure what the issue is. if they find that one or all did this murder because he was white, add a hate crime charge and end the debate. i have no clue whether he targeted the victim because of race. if he did, charge accordingly. thats how the system is suppose to work.

these people are trying to confuse and tie you in a silly exercise and argument about nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:And why is there barely any media coverage on this? Seems to me if someone posts that they hate white people and then go and kills a random white person for no reason, that is a hate crime. If someone posted they hated gay people or black people, and then went and killed a random gay guy or African-American woman for the thrill of it, that would constitute a hate crime, no? Just wondering cause it seems like we should be outraged by hate crimes on the whole. And even white males can be subject of that but no one wants to talk about it. Why?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/black-teen-who-murdered-australian-jogger-posted-racist-tweets/#ixzz2chtAj4cJ

Barely any media coverage? I saw it this morning on at least one of my usual news sites (Fox, CNN, MSNBC). I'd say that's fairly mainstream. I don't exactly spend my days with my ears pressed to the fringes of the internet looking for under reported news.

Of course it is a hate crime. Haters gonna hate. Assholes and idiots have all kinds of bizarre and terrible motives for the awful things they do. So we have a racist black kid here.... alert the media? Really? What difference does it make to the dead guy or the rest of us if the motive was racial hate? Does it make you feel better to know that black people can commit hate crimes too?

And Jesse Jackson even commented that this type of act is "frowned upon!"

Anonymous wrote:Good then the plumber should have no trouble putting in your stent.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Australia is calling it a black on white hate crime and urging people not to come here as students or tourists.
Obama has been silent.

obama didn't comment on Trayvon until a month and a half after the killing.

And other country's presidents and diplomats were on the news saying what on Day 1 (as they are now)?

No need for excuses or distractions. Looks petty.

everything Obana says or does looks wrong to you. The guy can't watch a movie in Saturday night without wingnuts pissed off about it.

Actually, my point was that other authorities are calling it a hate crime. This is very much in the front and center news in Australia and England.

I could care less what or when Obama says, he usually stays silent on international issues for many days, hoping it blows over. Everyone knows that.

The "other authorities" also had this to say:

“The U.S. has chosen the pathway of illogical policy with regard to guns," Australia’s former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer said Friday. "They cannot expect not to have any criticism of it worldwide. I am angry because it is corrupting the world, this gun culture of the United States.”

So how do you like your authorities now?

Ask ANY African, European African or Caribbean African what they really think about African Americans attitudes, crime and violence. Buckle up for a truly enlightening conversation.

So I guess you no longer care or these authorities anymore and would like to change the subject.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't worry, Australia is calling it a black on white hate crime and urging people not to come here as students or tourists.
Obama has been silent.

obama didn't comment on Trayvon until a month and a half after the killing.

And other country's presidents and diplomats were on the news saying what on Day 1 (as they are now)?

No need for excuses or distractions. Looks petty.

everything Obana says or does looks wrong to you. The guy can't watch a movie in Saturday night without wingnuts pissed off about it.

Actually, my point was that other authorities are calling it a hate crime. This is very much in the front and center news in Australia and England.

I could care less what or when Obama says, he usually stays silent on international issues for many days, hoping it blows over. Everyone knows that.

The "other authorities" also had this to say:

“The U.S. has chosen the pathway of illogical policy with regard to guns," Australia’s former deputy prime minister Tim Fischer said Friday. "They cannot expect not to have any criticism of it worldwide. I am angry because it is corrupting the world, this gun culture of the United States.”

So how do you like your authorities now?

Ask ANY African, European African or Caribbean African what they really think about African Americans attitudes, crime and violence. Buckle up for a truly enlightening conversation.

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16:33 true, but Tacoma's hypothesis gave a benefit of doubt that would never be allowed if the tables were turned.


Well, he was wrong. Neither the law nor its appolication supports a differential treatment of races under hate crime laws.

...but that hypothesis is what some of us were responding to.

He already said he got it wrong. Let it go.