Anonymous
Post 06/15/2014 18:58     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

NP here. We recently visited the campus. It is quite nice. But, we came away wondering whether/if the academics really are the caliber that the school professes. We saw an amazing video presentation at the admissions office which was well done and quite effective. However, is this how one should select a college? DD wasn't impressed and while everyone was quite nice and the tour informative but DD has moved on. I'd take a good look at this one before signing up.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2014 12:38     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elon's average SAT score for the class of 2018 is a 1920, and the average weighted gpa is a 4.0. Elon grads are recruited by institutions such as J.P Morgan, Merrill Lynch, Nat Geo, ESPN, Morgan Stanley, and MTV. Although Elon was far from prestigious 30 years ago, its recent efforts has placed it on the radar as an impressive university. It's considered one level below little ivies, and in fact many who are not accepted to the little ivy of their choice attend Elon. Any one who argues that Elon is for "stupid people" today is ignorant of the facts, and has no business commenting on this blog.


no that would be places like Georgetown, John Hopkins, Notre Dame etc., with admission rates under 20%. Elon's is 50%. With those odds, I'd consider it a safety.


no, those are on par with the LITTLE IVIES (Amherst, Middlebury, etc, not sure if you get it...) Below that are schools like elon
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2014 22:52     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?





Sound advice here. Don't choose a school to impress others, choose a school that you will thrive at. The presumptions others make based on the school you graduated from eventually give way to the reality of your performance.


If DC wants to stay in NC I would advise against Elon. It has such a bad reputation from what it was 20 years ago. If someone my age is doing the hiring, I wouldn't hire someone from Elon. I realize you shouldn't choose a school to please others, but the reaction from my relatives in NC if I told them my DC was going to Elon... not worth it.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2014 08:15     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:Our daughter just finished her freshman year at Elon. She chose it because of the engaged learning, the medium size, the location (she wanted nice weather), and the fact that they do a beautiful job of handling food allergies, which is an issue for her, and which all other universities we looked at handled relatively poorly. She was an A student who took the highest rigor at her school and was very involved in EC's. We are a very middle class family from the Midwest. There is no question that Elon is predominantly (though not solely) "rich" kids, but she said that it was never a problem for her, that the students were always very friendly and down to earth and she made a lot of great friends there. She was an A student who took the highest level courses offered at her school. She found Elon to be challenging academically and she loved most of her professors (wish I could say there weren't a couple of duds in there, but for the most part she found professors engaging, interesting and available to help whenever she needed it. She said she looked forward to going to her classes). She had a great experience there and Elon has awakened a new love of learning in her.

Our son went to Vanderbilt and we loved that school for him. We love Elon equally for our daughter. College choice is a matter of fit. I think it's a silly argument to compare Elon against the Ivies/top tier schools. Elon never pretended to be an Ivy. They want that A-B student who is an engaged learner and will be involved on campus. They are looking for a certain type of community. If you are a type A highly driven student who wants the prestige (like my son was), then apply to the Ivies and debate away about which school has a better reputation. But if you're looking for a match for a student who loves to learn, wants hands on experience, wants access to professors who care to be in contact, that offers a variety of activities and clubs, where they can grow academically and personally, Elon might just be a better place. Our daughter disliked the serious type-A vibe on the Vandy campus and would have been very uncomfortable there while our son basked in it and found it energizing. She loved the friendly atmosphere and the genuine people she met at Elon. Already in her freshman year our daughter has had better academic and career advising than our son ever got at Vandy. She has had more conversations with professors than he ever did at Vandy, and she has had more hands on experience than he did at Vandy until his internship senior year. She is finding that it's more rigorous than the state schools her friends are attending and is involved in lots more on campus then they are; already holding leadership positions in a couple of her activities. Our goal was to find schools that were good fits for our kids academically and philosophically, where they would be challenged and motivated. We feel like we accomplished that in both cases.

Elon is a great school and provides great opportunities for students to get experience through classroom activities as well as internship opportunities (much better than most schools we looked at), and provides a great education for those who take advantage of what it offers. Is it the best match for every student? Of course not. It doesn't make it a bad school. Harvard and Princeton aren't matches for everyone either. You've got to take your child's interests, personality and abilities into consideration. If you haven't seen it, here is a link to Elon's list of rankings and recognitions.

http://www.elon.edu/e-web/news/rankings/

I think Elon's biggest drawback right now is their small endownment. They are working on it, but haven't had as many years to build it up. This means that Elon can't meet 100% of student need so many students get better financial aid packages elsewhere. This attracts wealthy families who wouldn't get financial aid anyway because of the comparatively low sticker price (~$40k vs. ~$60k at many other private schools). Interestingly I did see some complaining on the greek rank site about pledge classes not being as "hot" any more because Elon is going after more scholarly types and the population there isn't as preppy and wealthy as it used to be. Take that for what it's worth, but Elon's admissions standards are going up every year as applications continue to increase in number and quality.

Elon has impressive leadership with a vision for what they want to be. They are successfully working on making that vision come true which I find to be exciting. I am very proud to be associated with Elon University and I can't wait to see where they are in 10 years.



Sound advice here. Don't choose a school to impress others, choose a school that you will thrive at. The presumptions others make based on the school you graduated from eventually give way to the reality of your performance.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2014 22:15     Subject: Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Its one of those "rising" schools that gets a lot of buzz. For the kids for whom its the right fit, I've heard good things.


Is there any school that isn't "rising"?


Harvard. It can't rise much in the rankings (ok, maybe from number 2 to 1, if it beats tied Princeton/Yale) and is probably more likely to be de-throned by Stanford.

Brilliant comment... thanks.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2014 18:23     Subject: Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Its one of those "rising" schools that gets a lot of buzz. For the kids for whom its the right fit, I've heard good things.


Is there any school that isn't "rising"?


Harvard. It can't rise much in the rankings (ok, maybe from number 2 to 1, if it beats tied Princeton/Yale) and is probably more likely to be de-throned by Stanford.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2014 11:42     Subject: Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Its one of those "rising" schools that gets a lot of buzz. For the kids for whom its the right fit, I've heard good things.


Is there any school that isn't "rising"?


Yes, but they don't advertise it (of course) so you only know if you pay attention to trends in rankings. Tulane, for example, took a huge hit post Katrina, but is now "rising." The rankings are a zero sum game - as schools move into the Top 25 others are pushed out.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2014 10:53     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:Our daughter just finished her freshman year at Elon. She chose it because of the engaged learning, the medium size, the location (she wanted nice weather), and the fact that they do a beautiful job of handling food allergies, which is an issue for her, and which all other universities we looked at handled relatively poorly. She was an A student who took the highest rigor at her school and was very involved in EC's. We are a very middle class family from the Midwest. There is no question that Elon is predominantly (though not solely) "rich" kids, but she said that it was never a problem for her, that the students were always very friendly and down to earth and she made a lot of great friends there. She was an A student who took the highest level courses offered at her school. She found Elon to be challenging academically and she loved most of her professors (wish I could say there weren't a couple of duds in there, but for the most part she found professors engaging, interesting and available to help whenever she needed it. She said she looked forward to going to her classes). She had a great experience there and Elon has awakened a new love of learning in her.

Our son went to Vanderbilt and we loved that school for him. We love Elon equally for our daughter. College choice is a matter of fit. I think it's a silly argument to compare Elon against the Ivies/top tier schools. Elon never pretended to be an Ivy. They want that A-B student who is an engaged learner and will be involved on campus. They are looking for a certain type of community. If you are a type A highly driven student who wants the prestige (like my son was), then apply to the Ivies and debate away about which school has a better reputation. But if you're looking for a match for a student who loves to learn, wants hands on experience, wants access to professors who care to be in contact, that offers a variety of activities and clubs, where they can grow academically and personally, Elon might just be a better place. Our daughter disliked the serious type-A vibe on the Vandy campus and would have been very uncomfortable there while our son basked in it and found it energizing. She loved the friendly atmosphere and the genuine people she met at Elon. Already in her freshman year our daughter has had better academic and career advising than our son ever got at Vandy. She has had more conversations with professors than he ever did at Vandy, and she has had more hands on experience than he did at Vandy until his internship senior year. She is finding that it's more rigorous than the state schools her friends are attending and is involved in lots more on campus then they are; already holding leadership positions in a couple of her activities. Our goal was to find schools that were good fits for our kids academically and philosophically, where they would be challenged and motivated. We feel like we accomplished that in both cases.

Elon is a great school and provides great opportunities for students to get experience through classroom activities as well as internship opportunities (much better than most schools we looked at), and provides a great education for those who take advantage of what it offers. Is it the best match for every student? Of course not. It doesn't make it a bad school. Harvard and Princeton aren't matches for everyone either. You've got to take your child's interests, personality and abilities into consideration. If you haven't seen it, here is a link to Elon's list of rankings and recognitions.

http://www.elon.edu/e-web/news/rankings/

I think Elon's biggest drawback right now is their small endownment. They are working on it, but haven't had as many years to build it up. This means that Elon can't meet 100% of student need so many students get better financial aid packages elsewhere. This attracts wealthy families who wouldn't get financial aid anyway because of the comparatively low sticker price (~$40k vs. ~$60k at many other private schools). Interestingly I did see some complaining on the greek rank site about pledge classes not being as "hot" any more because Elon is going after more scholarly types and the population there isn't as preppy and wealthy as it used to be. Take that for what it's worth, but Elon's admissions standards are going up every year as applications continue to increase in number and quality.

Elon has impressive leadership with a vision for what they want to be. They are successfully working on making that vision come true which I find to be exciting. I am very proud to be associated with Elon University and I can't wait to see where they are in 10 years.




The list of Elon's rankings and recognition is impressive. It would be helpful if every school did the same.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2014 23:37     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Is the PP someone from the admissions office?
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2014 20:09     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Trying too hard.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2014 20:02     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Our daughter just finished her freshman year at Elon. She chose it because of the engaged learning, the medium size, the location (she wanted nice weather), and the fact that they do a beautiful job of handling food allergies, which is an issue for her, and which all other universities we looked at handled relatively poorly. She was an A student who took the highest rigor at her school and was very involved in EC's. We are a very middle class family from the Midwest. There is no question that Elon is predominantly (though not solely) "rich" kids, but she said that it was never a problem for her, that the students were always very friendly and down to earth and she made a lot of great friends there. She was an A student who took the highest level courses offered at her school. She found Elon to be challenging academically and she loved most of her professors (wish I could say there weren't a couple of duds in there, but for the most part she found professors engaging, interesting and available to help whenever she needed it. She said she looked forward to going to her classes). She had a great experience there and Elon has awakened a new love of learning in her.

Our son went to Vanderbilt and we loved that school for him. We love Elon equally for our daughter. College choice is a matter of fit. I think it's a silly argument to compare Elon against the Ivies/top tier schools. Elon never pretended to be an Ivy. They want that A-B student who is an engaged learner and will be involved on campus. They are looking for a certain type of community. If you are a type A highly driven student who wants the prestige (like my son was), then apply to the Ivies and debate away about which school has a better reputation. But if you're looking for a match for a student who loves to learn, wants hands on experience, wants access to professors who care to be in contact, that offers a variety of activities and clubs, where they can grow academically and personally, Elon might just be a better place. Our daughter disliked the serious type-A vibe on the Vandy campus and would have been very uncomfortable there while our son basked in it and found it energizing. She loved the friendly atmosphere and the genuine people she met at Elon. Already in her freshman year our daughter has had better academic and career advising than our son ever got at Vandy. She has had more conversations with professors than he ever did at Vandy, and she has had more hands on experience than he did at Vandy until his internship senior year. She is finding that it's more rigorous than the state schools her friends are attending and is involved in lots more on campus then they are; already holding leadership positions in a couple of her activities. Our goal was to find schools that were good fits for our kids academically and philosophically, where they would be challenged and motivated. We feel like we accomplished that in both cases.

Elon is a great school and provides great opportunities for students to get experience through classroom activities as well as internship opportunities (much better than most schools we looked at), and provides a great education for those who take advantage of what it offers. Is it the best match for every student? Of course not. It doesn't make it a bad school. Harvard and Princeton aren't matches for everyone either. You've got to take your child's interests, personality and abilities into consideration. If you haven't seen it, here is a link to Elon's list of rankings and recognitions.

http://www.elon.edu/e-web/news/rankings/

I think Elon's biggest drawback right now is their small endownment. They are working on it, but haven't had as many years to build it up. This means that Elon can't meet 100% of student need so many students get better financial aid packages elsewhere. This attracts wealthy families who wouldn't get financial aid anyway because of the comparatively low sticker price (~$40k vs. ~$60k at many other private schools). Interestingly I did see some complaining on the greek rank site about pledge classes not being as "hot" any more because Elon is going after more scholarly types and the population there isn't as preppy and wealthy as it used to be. Take that for what it's worth, but Elon's admissions standards are going up every year as applications continue to increase in number and quality.

Elon has impressive leadership with a vision for what they want to be. They are successfully working on making that vision come true which I find to be exciting. I am very proud to be associated with Elon University and I can't wait to see where they are in 10 years.

Anonymous
Post 05/22/2014 14:58     Subject: Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:Its one of those "rising" schools that gets a lot of buzz. For the kids for whom its the right fit, I've heard good things.


Is there any school that isn't "rising"?
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2014 13:33     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:Elon's average SAT score for the class of 2018 is a 1920, and the average weighted gpa is a 4.0. Elon grads are recruited by institutions such as J.P Morgan, Merrill Lynch, Nat Geo, ESPN, Morgan Stanley, and MTV. Although Elon was far from prestigious 30 years ago, its recent efforts has placed it on the radar as an impressive university. It's considered one level below little ivies, and in fact many who are not accepted to the little ivy of their choice attend Elon. Any one who argues that Elon is for "stupid people" today is ignorant of the facts, and has no business commenting on this blog.


no that would be places like Georgetown, John Hopkins, Notre Dame etc., with admission rates under 20%. Elon's is 50%. With those odds, I'd consider it a safety.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2014 13:28     Subject: Re:Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:Elon's average SAT score for the class of 2018 is a 1920, and the average weighted gpa is a 4.0. Elon grads are recruited by institutions such as J.P Morgan, Merrill Lynch, Nat Geo, ESPN, Morgan Stanley, and MTV. Although Elon was far from prestigious 30 years ago, its recent efforts has placed it on the radar as an impressive university. It's considered one level below little ivies, and in fact many who are not accepted to the little ivy of their choice attend Elon. Any one who argues that Elon is for "stupid people" today is ignorant of the facts, and has no business commenting on this blog.


two extremes don't make a right It's not for stupid people - but it's not "one level below the Ivies." either. That's just delusional.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2014 10:48     Subject: Elon University - is it as good as it "looks"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:funny all the people i know who went there were the ones who couldn't get into any other school or were total f' ups.

when did schools for rich dumb and f'd up kids beicome known as rising.....


Grew up here in Northern VA and this is exactly what I thought of this school as well. . . .


PS A few girls from my high school (Langley) went there and always post these pics of themselves with sorority friends -- all the girls look rich, well-kept, and snooty to me. . . .


So then it must be true.