Anonymous wrote:I am the teacher and I certainly hope that the kids who do not belong in AAP (most of them) pick up on my vibe. They need to know that they are in the wrong place, are not that bright, and should be back in the gen ed pop. Parents have ruined what was GT and made it into "I will push and push until my DC is in AAP regardless of whether they belong there". Most of your AAP kids will go to NOVA and then possibly get jobs at McDonalds (hopefully as supervisors once the interviewers see that they were AAP in elementary school).

Can't believe you are a teacher... sounds more like a troll to me.

I am the teacher and I certainly hope that the kids who do not belong in AAP (most of them) pick up on my vibe. They need to know that they are in the wrong place, are not that bright, and should be back in the gen ed pop. Parents have ruined what was GT and made it into "I will push and push until my DC is in AAP regardless of whether they belong there". Most of your AAP kids will go to NOVA and then possibly get jobs at McDonalds (hopefully as supervisors once the interviewers see that they were AAP in elementary school).

Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing on the list and a few friends kids (including mine) that very high NNAT's seem to coincide with very high WISC's mostly. Thoughts/comments?

My DC has a NNAT2 score of 156 and FSIQ of 135 , PRI 133.. not sure if you would call it as high as NNAT2 but high enough to be in the 99 percentile.

I'm seeing on the list and a few friends kids (including mine) that very high NNAT's seem to coincide with very high WISC's mostly. Thoughts/comments?

Anonymous wrote:#8 on the list.

NNAT 145 FxAT 78%

How is it look? Any chances for us?

You have a good chance at getting in!

#8 on the list.

NNAT 145 FxAT 78%

How is it look? Any chances for us?

WISC: FSIQ 130 VCI: 119 PRI 125 WMI: 110 PSI: 139
NNAT: 124
FxAT 89%

WISC: FSIQ: 124 VCI:119 PRI:125 WMI:120 PSI:109
NNAT: 150
FxAT: 71%
GBRS: 13

Here is the updated list so far. If folks could provide all the scores (WISC FSIQ & subsets, NNAT, FxAT) & GBRS, that will help us have a clear picture on the appeal eligibility cut-offs :

1. WISC: VCI 132 PRI 123 WM 120 PS 137 FSIQ 135
GBRS: 8

2. WISC: VCI 124 PRI 141 FSIQ 138
GBRS: 11

3. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 137 WM 129 PS 141 FSIQ 147
GBRS: 8
NNAT: 145
FxAT: 86%

4. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 131 WM 126 PS 128 FSIQ 140
GBRS: 13
NNAT: 135
FxAT: 83%

5. WISC: VCI 128 PRI 120 FSIQ 129
GBRS: 10

6. WISC: FSIQ 144
GBRS: 16
NNAT: 126
FxAT: 76

7. SB: 132
WISC: 133
GBRS: 11

8. WISC: FSIQ 145 VCI 137 PRI 135 WM 130 PS 140
GBRS: 6

9. WISC: VCI 115 PRI 136 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126
GBRS 12

10. WISC: 128 PR 133 WM 126 PS 121 FSIQ 135
GBRS 12

11. WISC: VSI 112 PRI 139 WM 110 PS 115 FSIQ 126

12. WISC: FSIQ 129
GBRS 8

13. WISC: VCI 138 PRI 132
GBRS 8

14. WISC: FSIQ 132 VCI 135 PRI 130
GBRS 10

15. WISC: VC 130 PR 127 WM 123 PS 112 FSIQ: 130
GBRS: 13

16. WISC: FSIQ 149 VCI 134 PRI 141 PSI 133
NNAT 139
CogAt 89%
GBRS 6

17. WISC: 150
NNAT:129
CogAt:83%

18. WISC: FSIQ: 123 VCI: 126 PRI: 125
GBRS: 11

19. FSIQ: 134 VCI: 132 PRI: 137 WMI-120 PSI: 112
GBRS: 8

20. WISC: FSIQ 146 VCI: 140 PRI:149 WMI:129 PSI:121
NNAT : 146
GBRS : 6
FxAT : 86%

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP is open to any parent who can afford to privately test and push. Does it mean their child belongs there? Absolutely not! so many parents push/appeal and so many students should not be there. As a center AAP teacher I would hazard to guess that two thirds of your very average snowflakes do not belong. No matter what you may think, they are not gifted or advanced. but please push to get them into AA P and make that program even weaker.

Parents did not invent the system, the criteria, or the rules. The AAP group is what it is, even if you think it should be otherwise. I'm sure that the two-thirds of your students you feel don't belong pick up on your opinion of them and suffer for it. It isn't fair to them for you to remain in your teaching position if this is how you feel. For your own sake you may wish to move on. It sounds like you may have been teaching for a long time and remembering a bygone era. You may be close to retirement and feel you have no other options. But I would try to work positively in the new framework and come to terms with the fact that your job is now to teach the top 15, 20, or 25 percent and not the top 5 percent. That is the job.

I bet this is my DD's teacher. She repeatability lectures the class about how lucky they are to be in the program, and how some do not belong. She lectures about working harder to make sure they pass(ed) the SOL's. I am really hoping that the teacher is not back next year. And not just for that, but also for teaching factually incorrect information in science.

Anonymous wrote:AAP is open to any parent who can afford to privately test and push. Does it mean their child belongs there? Absolutely not! so many parents push/appeal and so many students should not be there. As a center AAP teacher I would hazard to guess that two thirds of your very average snowflakes do not belong. No matter what you may think, they are not gifted or advanced. but please push to get them into AA P and make that program even weaker.

Parents did not invent the system, the criteria, or the rules. The AAP group is what it is, even if you think it should be otherwise. I'm sure that the two-thirds of your students you feel don't belong pick up on your opinion of them and suffer for it. It isn't fair to them for you to remain in your teaching position if this is how you feel. For your own sake you may wish to move on. It sounds like you may have been teaching for a long time and remembering a bygone era. You may be close to retirement and feel you have no other options. But I would try to work positively in the new framework and come to terms with the fact that your job is now to teach the top 15, 20, or 25 percent and not the top 5 percent. That is the job.

Let's get back to the topic. Please share your WISC/GBRS scores.

I meant mommy wars 2!

PP, please let's not make this a battle ground of Gen. Ed vs. Aap. It's like the moony wars 2. Chillax!

I don't believe the poster is an AAP teacher. Just a transparent ploy to look "authentic" and in the know. Any AAP teacher would know that a parent can't "push" their bright child to attain a WISC full scale of 130+. Clearly a disgruntled gen ed parent. Probably appealed for her kid and lost.