Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When our school had a parent meeting for the AAP program we were told that the Cogat (FAT) would be age-normed. Can someone explain how they know it is not age-normed? There is a section of the results labeled "Age Scores" and "Standard Age Score".

True, and my DS birthday Aug 2 scored 95%. He got in, but should have been age adjusted up on that score.

The tests were not normalized for age when FCPS went to there own test for the first year (2012-2013). That was the date of OP. In 2013-2014 and future years, they were age adjusted. The first year, there was not enough data to age adjust with any confidence.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When our school had a parent meeting for the AAP program we were told that the Cogat (FAT) would be age-normed. Can someone explain how they know it is not age-normed? There is a section of the results labeled "Age Scores" and "Standard Age Score".

True, and my DS birthday Aug 2 scored 95%. He got in, but should have been age adjusted up on that score.

The point is he got in, isn't it? Even without the score being adjusted up. So who cares?

Anonymous wrote:When our school had a parent meeting for the AAP program we were told that the Cogat (FAT) would be age-normed. Can someone explain how they know it is not age-normed? There is a section of the results labeled "Age Scores" and "Standard Age Score".

True, and my DS birthday Aug 2 scored 95%. He got in, but should have been age adjusted up on that score.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New to the county.
Question: The CogAT scores of previous years were age-adjusted??

Yes, as are all other comparable scores in the country!

Not true. The Cogat scores were not age-normed last year.

I love it when a parent says that their child "needs to be in AAP.". I "needed to be" at Stanford B School but they did not accept me. I guess I should have appealed!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is a Jan kid and she doesn't make it but her friend a May kid does. It depends on the kid's own ability.

AAP is for someone who can take the challenge of a more advanced curriculum starting Sept 13, but not according to the kid's birthday.

disagree

Why? If your kid goes to AAP in 3rd grade and can't hang with the entire class then they don't belong in that class. Simple.

Anonymous wrote:My kid is a Jan kid and she doesn't make it but her friend a May kid does. It depends on the kid's own ability.

AAP is for someone who can take the challenge of a more advanced curriculum starting Sept 13, but not according to the kid's birthday.

disagree

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If admission were based only on test scores, this argument would have validity.

Chill out and wait for the admission decisions before you freak out. There is an appeal process for a reason.

So after all the admissions are done, and the appeals complete, how exactly are you to find out if the lack of normalization of the FATs was a factor in the decision? They have not made any of the data of those admitted public in the past, what leads you to believe that it will all become crystal clear this time?

The time to freak out is now. Not later after the appeal period is over.

I agree...

So, why did Fairfax County have to request its own tailored Cogat? If it's because extreme test prepping were clouding the results, isn't it just a matter of time before it happens with the FAT? Is the slight increase in pool target from last year (130 to 132) an indication that it's happening already? Maybe they should just give one test in 2nd grade and not tell which one your kid will receive (randomly assign FAT, Cogat or NNAT). If an ESOL student gets Cogat or FAT, just give more weight to the non-verbal section.

Oh my God.... People have plenty of time to dig into year-old pile of threads.

Hello Class action lawsuit crazy lady,

how do you have so much time to do this?
And you want to bring down the whole county school system because your kid didn't get enough score?

Class action lawsuit crazy person: welcome back!

Anonymous wrote:When our school had a parent meeting for the AAP program we were told that the Cogat (FAT) would be age-normed. Can someone explain how they know it is not age-normed? There is a section of the results labeled "Age Scores" and "Standard Age Score".

This thread is a year old. Last year it was not normed. This year it was.

Let the EXTREME red-shirting begin.