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Anonymous wrote:^^^ how can you say that it's inclusive where, in one of the fundamental events of the religion, breaking of bread during mass, non Catholics are specifically excluded? I've been at masses where the priest announces that non-Catholics should not come forward to eat at out table. So rude.

This is printed in every Missal you find in every Catholic Church:

"We welcome our fellow Christians to this celebration of the Eucharist as our brothers and sisters. We pray that our common baptism and the action of the Holy Spirit in this Eucharist will draw us closer to one another and begin to dispel the sad divisions which separate us. We pray that these will lessen and finally disappear, in keeping with Christ’s prayer for us ‘that they may all be one’ (John 17:21).

"Because Catholics believe that the celebration of the Eucharist is a sign of the reality of the oneness of faith, life, and worship, members of those churches with whom we are not yet fully united are ordinarily not admitted to Communion. Eucharistic sharing in exceptional circumstances by other Christians requires permission according to the directives of the diocesan bishop and the provisions of canon law. . . .

I think that this is very clearly and respectfully asking our non-Catholic brothers and sisters to abstain from taking the Eucharist until such time as we are all again united in faith, life and worship. I see nothing rude at all in this, and would find it disrespectful if a non-Catholic decided of their own accord to take the Eucharist in a Catholic Church without first discussing it with the priest.

Yes, I know that they have "reasons" and that they don't say it in a mean voice. It's still rude.

Is it also rude that Christians are not allowed to just walk into a temple and demand to be Bar Mitzvahed? Communion is a sacrament that you must learn and prepare for. It is not a simple breaking of bread. Besides, why do you care? It doesn't sound like you want to be a part of it anyway. You are just looking for something to criticize.

Anonymous wrote:Jesus told the Apostles to "do this in memory of me" at the Last Supper. You are reenacting a meal, the Last Supper. You are calling the attendees to your table to partake of food and drink (now the body and blood). Except you tell some of your guests, "Except if you are not a Catholic, you aren't invited to partake".

Sorry but to me it's rude and others have expressed the same feeling.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ how can you say that it's inclusive where, in one of the fundamental events of the religion, breaking of bread during mass, non Catholics are specifically excluded? I've been at masses where the priest announces that non-Catholics should not come forward to eat at out table. So rude.

This is printed in every Missal you find in every Catholic Church:

"We welcome our fellow Christians to this celebration of the Eucharist as our brothers and sisters. We pray that our common baptism and the action of the Holy Spirit in this Eucharist will draw us closer to one another and begin to dispel the sad divisions which separate us. We pray that these will lessen and finally disappear, in keeping with Christ’s prayer for us ‘that they may all be one’ (John 17:21).

"Because Catholics believe that the celebration of the Eucharist is a sign of the reality of the oneness of faith, life, and worship, members of those churches with whom we are not yet fully united are ordinarily not admitted to Communion. Eucharistic sharing in exceptional circumstances by other Christians requires permission according to the directives of the diocesan bishop and the provisions of canon law. . . .

I think that this is very clearly and respectfully asking our non-Catholic brothers and sisters to abstain from taking the Eucharist until such time as we are all again united in faith, life and worship. I see nothing rude at all in this, and would find it disrespectful if a non-Catholic decided of their own accord to take the Eucharist in a Catholic Church without first discussing it with the priest.

Yes, I know that they have "reasons" and that they don't say it in a mean voice. It's still rude.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ how can you say that it's inclusive where, in one of the fundamental events of the religion, breaking of bread during mass, non Catholics are specifically excluded? I've been at masses where the priest announces that non-Catholics should not come forward to eat at out table. So rude.

This is printed in every Missal you find in every Catholic Church:

"We welcome our fellow Christians to this celebration of the Eucharist as our brothers and sisters. We pray that our common baptism and the action of the Holy Spirit in this Eucharist will draw us closer to one another and begin to dispel the sad divisions which separate us. We pray that these will lessen and finally disappear, in keeping with Christ’s prayer for us ‘that they may all be one’ (John 17:21).

"Because Catholics believe that the celebration of the Eucharist is a sign of the reality of the oneness of faith, life, and worship, members of those churches with whom we are not yet fully united are ordinarily not admitted to Communion. Eucharistic sharing in exceptional circumstances by other Christians requires permission according to the directives of the diocesan bishop and the provisions of canon law. . . .

I think that this is very clearly and respectfully asking our non-Catholic brothers and sisters to abstain from taking the Eucharist until such time as we are all again united in faith, life and worship. I see nothing rude at all in this, and would find it disrespectful if a non-Catholic decided of their own accord to take the Eucharist in a Catholic Church without first discussing it with the priest.

Yes, I know that they have "reasons" and that they don't say it in a mean voice. It's still rude.

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Anonymous wrote:Many practicing Catholics can't stand criticism of the Church, even when it's totally fact-based.

Many Catholics haters can't stand the idea that Catholics love their Church and find meaning and comfort in it. The haters obviously believe that it is much better to worship money, material goods, and self promotion and to bash everyone whose choices and beliefs don't mirror theirs. But then they spew on about what great open minded liberals they are in other contexts, such as when it comes to defending Islam, which, ironically is the most conservative religion of all. They say whatever is politically fashionable. What hypocrites!

someone went off their meds

Sorry if the truth isn't what you wanted to hear.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ how can you say that it's inclusive where, in one of the fundamental events of the religion, breaking of bread during mass, non Catholics are specifically excluded? I've been at masses where the priest announces that non-Catholics should not come forward to eat at out table. So rude.

This is printed in every Missal you find in every Catholic Church:

"We welcome our fellow Christians to this celebration of the Eucharist as our brothers and sisters. We pray that our common baptism and the action of the Holy Spirit in this Eucharist will draw us closer to one another and begin to dispel the sad divisions which separate us. We pray that these will lessen and finally disappear, in keeping with Christ’s prayer for us ‘that they may all be one’ (John 17:21).

"Because Catholics believe that the celebration of the Eucharist is a sign of the reality of the oneness of faith, life, and worship, members of those churches with whom we are not yet fully united are ordinarily not admitted to Communion. Eucharistic sharing in exceptional circumstances by other Christians requires permission according to the directives of the diocesan bishop and the provisions of canon law. . . .

I think that this is very clearly and respectfully asking our non-Catholic brothers and sisters to abstain from taking the Eucharist until such time as we are all again united in faith, life and worship. I see nothing rude at all in this, and would find it disrespectful if a non-Catholic decided of their own accord to take the Eucharist in a Catholic Church without first discussing it with the priest.

Anonymous wrote:^^^ how can you say that it's inclusive where, in one of the fundamental events of the religion, breaking of bread during mass, non Catholics are specifically excluded? I've been at masses where the priest announces that non-Catholics should not come forward to eat at out table. So rude.

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Anonymous wrote:There is something about the Catholic attitude that isn't inclusive or open and that's what I find off-putting. There is more "my way or the highway" than in other religions -- and I am just talking about my first-hand experience as a non-Catholic who married a Catholic. I didn't have this view until I went through the intrusive pre-Cana process, met with the priest, etc.

Wow. It's actually quite the opposite. Very much inclusive and about treating each other with kindness and having a sense of community. . .it's hard to put it into words, but this is from a non-catholic who attended a catholic school, and I was one of the only non Catholics there.

100% my experience as well

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a non-practicing Catholic and can see exactly why there is a lot of animosity toward the Catholic church. It's hard for millions of people to approve of a multi-billion dollar institution that tells other people how to live while not only turning a blind eye to decades of child molestation, but could also easily build a hospital for the poor if it sold off a few lavish properties in the US and Europe. The church in many ways has forgotten the poor man who walked around in sandals, was kind to children and threw money changers out of his father's house. And the church is able to go on this way because so many Catholics are more interested in the blessings but not actually living according to the words of Jesus Christ.

And there is still not a hint of traditional American Protestant anti-Catholicism out there? I find a lot of today's anti-Catholic sentiment is the same kind of stuff that the Rev. Norman Vincent Peale and other Protestant anti-Catholics used to peddle back in the day. Only now, it has been picked by so called "secular" liberals, feminists, etc. They are not happy that an institution that has existed for 2,000 plus years fails to "get with the times," so they attribute to it and its members all sorts of malignant intents.

Why have we not had a Catholic President since JFK? There are plenty of Catholics in both parties who have been more than qualified?

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Anonymous wrote:Many practicing Catholics can't stand criticism of the Church, even when it's totally fact-based.

Many Catholics haters can't stand the idea that Catholics love their Church and find meaning and comfort in it. The haters obviously believe that it is much better to worship money, material goods, and self promotion and to bash everyone whose choices and beliefs don't mirror theirs. But then they spew on about what great open minded liberals they are in other contexts, such as when it comes to defending Islam, which, ironically is the most conservative religion of all. They say whatever is politically fashionable. What hypocrites!

someone went off their meds

Anonymous wrote:^^^ how can you say that it's inclusive where, in one of the fundamental events of the religion, breaking of bread during mass, non Catholics are specifically excluded? I've been at masses where the priest announces that non-Catholics should not come forward to eat at out table. So rude.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is something about the Catholic attitude that isn't inclusive or open and that's what I find off-putting. There is more "my way or the highway" than in other religions -- and I am just talking about my first-hand experience as a non-Catholic who married a Catholic. I didn't have this view until I went through the intrusive pre-Cana process, met with the priest, etc.

Wow. It's actually quite the opposite. Very much inclusive and about treating each other with kindness and having a sense of community. . .it's hard to put it into words, but this is from a non-catholic who attended a catholic school, and I was one of the only non Catholics there.

Anonymous wrote:Hell would break lose on this board if something anti-Jewish or anti-black was said. Why do you continue to bash Catholics? If I made a comment that all Jewish women appear to be overweight I would be called an anti-Semite..... The SUV thread which started out funny really took an ugly and offensive turn and I am surprised that everyone thinks it is alright.