Anonymous
04/26/2012 17:16
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
So...umm...what are the Jewish sexual sterotypes? Im seriously curious but don't want to google it on my home computer. I want to find out if my husband is a good sexual representation of his people.
-Shiksa
-Shiksa
Anonymous
04/26/2012 17:14
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:I happen to know 2 Jews in the porn industry. I met them when I was traveling in Israel, and a friend of mine married one of them. They were behind the camera, FWIW.
Wow--you met not one but *two* Jews while traveling in Israel?
Anonymous
04/26/2012 17:03
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I didn't know that there were different categories of AAs when considering who will attend the school.
So if middle-upper class blacks attend Hebrew then it really isn't like black kids are attending it because they are more like white kids. You have to have "less educated" black parents choosing the school to really mean that blacks are choosing the school.
Got it.
Sorry it was supposed to read like this, I missed a break:
And guess what, there are more or less educated Whites and more or less educated Hispanics, too. Are we going to pretend that class divisions don't exist? Because that's all the PP is observing. Middle and upper-middle class AA families DO want the same things middle and upper-middle class white families want. Why? Has nothing to do with race, it has to do with the fact that we're talking about class. Let's not conflate the two and then play dumb.
I don't think that anyone is playing dumb. Charters are started for different reasons. Did I hear outcry when MV was starting because they weren't serving poor black kids instead of middle-class black kids? Of course class divisions exist. That is why there are specifc charters which focus on low income black children. It doesn't mean that all charters have to focus on them though.
I wasn't suggesting that they should. I was responding to the PP "it really isn't like black kids are attending it because they are more like white kids." I don't think she should play games, if she wants to make it about class then she should come right out and say so. And, after that, perhaps justify whatever is awful about allowing middle class parents to have decent choices which they prefer for their children.
Not any of the PPs, but I think you completely misunderstood that PP. She never said that middle class black kids are not black or anything like that. She only said that middle class black parents want the same choices and the same good schools, just like any middle class white parents -or middle class any other origin parents- want, as in; any educated parent that cares will be drawn to the same good schools, regardless. And I think that is clear and true.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 15:52
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:Native Hebrew speaker and Jew here and I find this thread hilarious. Very few people, worldwide, speak Modern Hebrew. What a waste of DC taxpayer money to basically create a private school with public money for a small community that doesn't need it. Sure, other people will enroll, and you will torture them by having them learn a language so very different than their own that they will never use in real life.
Pretty stupid resource allocation right there.
You haven't actually read what people are saying, have you. If you'd actually read these "hilarious" pages, you'd see that all of your concerns have been addressed.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 15:47
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Native Hebrew speaker and Jew here and I find this thread hilarious. Very few people, worldwide, speak Modern Hebrew. What a waste of DC taxpayer money to basically create a private school with public money for a small community that doesn't need it. Sure, other people will enroll, and you will torture them by having them learn a language so very different than their own that they will never use in real life.
Pretty stupid resource allocation right there.
Pretty stupid resource allocation right there.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 15:32
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
I am not going to broker a discussion on stereotypes about Jewish sexuality -the porn connection has been documented, see e.g., the month's Lilith magazine, etc. My point was just that these stereotypes have very little to do with the school, which will be a school by some Jews/African-American/other for DC students, some of whom might be Jews, but most of them who will be non-Jews. If Marylanders try and game the system, they will be fined and their students kicked out, because that is FRAUD. We don't all know each other (stereotype), and even the people running the school did no some people in Maryland who might want to attend the school, letting them in would also be FRAUD. I suspect the people running the school wouldn't risk losing their charter over that. I also hear from another forum that DCPS is setting up some report hotline for people to report MD/VA families trying to game the system, e.g., for pre-K. So if it happens, pick up the phone and report it!
Anonymous
04/26/2012 15:08
Subject: Re:DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:
I wonder how many Maryland tags will appear at drop off and pick-up.
Yeah. Me too.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 14:56
Subject: Re:DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:Jews are also "overrepresented" in cults, the porn industry, and competitive chess. None of this matters, of course, since this won't be a Jewish school. It MAY be a school with SOME Jewish students like other elementary schools in DC, with SOME Jewish teachers like other elementary schools in DC, and a MAJORITY of African, African-American, Hispanic, and Vietnamese students like other elementary schools in DC (there really just aren't enough of us in DC proper to "take over"). The only difference is that this school will expose kids to a foreign language, namely, Modern Hebrew. Not as "beautiful" as Italian (subjective), not as "useful" as Mandarin (subjective), but a real language which can serve as a springboard for language learning throughout the kids' lifetimes.
Do Jewish parents place great importance on education? Yes. But that this is also true of all of the Hispanic and African-American parents in my circle of friends. College begets college in any ethic group. Parents who are college-educated want their children to be college-educated. In this country, Jews, like Asian-Americans, and Arab-Americans are more likely to be college-educated. What charter schools try to do is to put kids in a position to go to college and grow up to be parents who take for granted that their kids will go to college, too.
Jewish single mother/doctoral student
I wonder how many Maryland tags will appear at drop off and pick-up.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 13:43
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
I happen to know 2 Jews in the porn industry. I met them when I was traveling in Israel, and a friend of mine married one of them. They were behind the camera, FWIW.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 13:31
Subject: Re:DC Hebrew approved!!
Jews are also "overrepresented" in . . . the porn industry . . .
I've read every post in this thread, and this is by far the most interesting thing I've seen (other than "Shalom, bitches," of course). Really? Porn?
So the . . . stereotype . . . of jewish men is not true? Come to think of it, the stereotype of jewish women must not be true, either . . . fascinating. Is there a male/female breakdown?
Seriously, this could lead to the best spinoff thread ever. PP, please tell me your graduate studies are on the topic of proportional representation of different ethnicities in the porn industry.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 13:15
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Wow, I think Yu Ying has just been replaced as the most hated school on DCUM. My prediction is that in 3 years it too will have ten applications for every spot. I wish them well.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 13:10
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:In the same way that people might chose a Danish immersion school, because it will make it easier for their kids to learn German, parents might choose Hebrew, because it will make it easier for their kids to learn Arabic or Amharic. The PP is right that if we were so hot and bothered about the the Hebrew Charter, we should have been involved in the very long and transparent process of chartering the newly-approved schools.
I took Hebrew and years later, took Arabic, and having taken Hebrew did not make Arabic easier one bit. Just saying.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 11:10
Subject: Re:DC Hebrew approved!!
Jews are also "overrepresented" in cults, the porn industry, and competitive chess. None of this matters, of course, since this won't be a Jewish school. It MAY be a school with SOME Jewish students like other elementary schools in DC, with SOME Jewish teachers like other elementary schools in DC, and a MAJORITY of African, African-American, Hispanic, and Vietnamese students like other elementary schools in DC (there really just aren't enough of us in DC proper to "take over"). The only difference is that this school will expose kids to a foreign language, namely, Modern Hebrew. Not as "beautiful" as Italian (subjective), not as "useful" as Mandarin (subjective), but a real language which can serve as a springboard for language learning throughout the kids' lifetimes.
Do Jewish parents place great importance on education? Yes. But that this is also true of all of the Hispanic and African-American parents in my circle of friends. College begets college in any ethic group. Parents who are college-educated want their children to be college-educated. In this country, Jews, like Asian-Americans, and Arab-Americans are more likely to be college-educated. What charter schools try to do is to put kids in a position to go to college and grow up to be parents who take for granted that their kids will go to college, too.
Jewish single mother/doctoral student
Do Jewish parents place great importance on education? Yes. But that this is also true of all of the Hispanic and African-American parents in my circle of friends. College begets college in any ethic group. Parents who are college-educated want their children to be college-educated. In this country, Jews, like Asian-Americans, and Arab-Americans are more likely to be college-educated. What charter schools try to do is to put kids in a position to go to college and grow up to be parents who take for granted that their kids will go to college, too.
Jewish single mother/doctoral student
Anonymous
04/26/2012 08:28
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why everyone assumes this will be a quality school, anyway?
Because it's Jewish.
1) But it isn't; 2) Jewish schools are good? I didn't know that.
Did you grow up outside the U.S.? I don't know about other countries, but here the stereotype is definitely that Jewish families place a lot of value on education and their children grow up to be doctors, lawyers, and Wall Street types. Obviously that's a huge generalization, but Jews do tend to be disproportionately represented at top colleges and in successful white-collar jobs. I'm not Jewish btw--I'm just surprised to hear of someone who isn't aware of this.
Anonymous
04/26/2012 08:19
Subject: DC Hebrew approved!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm curious why everyone assumes this will be a quality school, anyway?
Because everybody knows that us Jews value a good education!!!
Right! How else have we been able to rule the world for so many years?
What a freakin' douche bag you are.
I'm pretty sure PP's comment was tongue-in-cheek. After all, our humor is what sustained us in the desert for 400 years.
(Before you jump down my throat, that is a Seinfeld reference.)