Mid Division here with an allstar/pv champs kid. We have been approached to switch to a top tier d1-d3 pool by a couple parents and a swimmer who needs my kid to remain competitive at ASR. So that does happen.

We loosely asked about waitlists and were told pool has a long one and they don't do line cuts for fast swimmers. We have pride in getting what we can from the middling division range, and repping our immediate neighborhood.

We also knew moving pools would create some awkward situations with classmates, friends whose kids would get bumped if we rolled over to their pool and frankly weren't sure it would be an all-around welcome.

Would have been fun to feel rush of being a big dog for sure ... especially because the B meet swimmers at that pool mock our kids for their significantly lower division standing.

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Anonymous wrote:How about whether that other mom is volunteering enough? And also, why did I just say mom and not parent?

How about whether to hold an A meet on July 4th, simply because it's a Saturday, or do the right thing and have the meet on Friday the 3rd?

Pools are running meets on national holidays?

Wait until I tell you about the baseball and soccer tournaments on Memorial Day. You’ll be shocked that an event from 8:00 to 10:30 am would happen on July 4th.

Not the best comparison given that many places have parades, etc. on the morning of July 4th. Our swim team always participates in our town’s parade and building our float, etc is a highlight of the summer.

Plus, with Memorial Day sports tournaments your whole weekend is already shot. You are also playing on Saturday and Sunday. Moving summer swim meets to the morning of July 3rd lets families that want to get out of town for (most of) the long weekend do so while still making the meet.

Hard to see any good reason not to move meets to July 3.

Also worth noting that Memorial Day tournaments are voluntary. Teams choose to sign up for them. Many teams choose not to so as not to impact the holiday weekend.

…also worth noting that swim meets are voluntary…

You seem obsessed with having meets on the holiday. Fits the title of this thread. Good to see that many teams are taking the more rational approach and agreeing to move to July 3.

Quite the leap to get obsessed here. Are you familiar with the 4th of July Vienna Relays? A meet run annually on…no, you’ll never guess when.

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Anonymous wrote:How about whether that other mom is volunteering enough? And also, why did I just say mom and not parent?

How about whether to hold an A meet on July 4th, simply because it's a Saturday, or do the right thing and have the meet on Friday the 3rd?

Pools are running meets on national holidays?

In 2015, only one meet shifted to Friday. https://mynvsl.com/schedules?year=2015&div=&date=20150703

Same situation, Independence Day on an NVSL Saturday, would have occurred in 2020 .. but COVID happened in case anyone forgot. Not a lot of old timers from 2015 are still around.

Division 1 NVSL I believe is switching to Friday this year.

We're on one of these teams and this is not the case for our team/meet at least.

I know Tuckahoe wanted to run theirs on the 4th

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Anonymous wrote:Really, who is doing anything important between 8 and noon on July 4th? If you're out of town, well, you're likely out all weekend so what difference does it make? Or skip the meet if you want. If your team isn't a division contender, who cares? But if your team IS a contender, get yo azz to the pool and stop moping.

POOLS are the ones pushing for Friday as far as I can tell. Our away opponent brought it up but apparently we aren't changing. July 4 it is.

We are in MCSL and our division A will be hosting Relay Carnival A on Friday, July 3 and our regular A meet on Saturday, July 4 will proceed like it is a regular Saturday meet. Who decides on these things?!!

This seems better than our Saturday/Sunday schedule. Are you a Division A pool or are you referring to A meets?

I've been Division J all the way to A, A does more crazy stuff for sure

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Anonymous wrote:How about whether that other mom is volunteering enough? And also, why did I just say mom and not parent?

How about whether to hold an A meet on July 4th, simply because it's a Saturday, or do the right thing and have the meet on Friday the 3rd?

Pools are running meets on national holidays?

MCSL - we are having our Saturday A meet AND Sunday July 5th division relay meet!

Anonymous wrote:barely into the season and we've covered:
* cutting in line
* recruiting
* afternoon practices/stay at home moms/working families
* purported evidence of someone taking a coveted A meet spot.

Keep it going DCUM swim fam!

Gotta get that tech suit/kneeskin debate going now!

Anonymous wrote:July 3 vs 4 appears to be up to the two teams involved in each meet to decide for themselves. Our team rep sent a survey out to the team, had a conversation with the other team's rep to compare results, and went with the majority vote from both teams. No complaints here on how they handled it, whether my vote "won" or not.

That seems fair. Goes with the majority and (if I am reading correctly) doesn't give one team the right to veto.

July 3 vs 4 appears to be up to the two teams involved in each meet to decide for themselves. Our team rep sent a survey out to the team, had a conversation with the other team's rep to compare results, and went with the majority vote from both teams. No complaints here on how they handled it, whether my vote "won" or not.

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Anonymous wrote:How about whether that other mom is volunteering enough? And also, why did I just say mom and not parent?

How about whether to hold an A meet on July 4th, simply because it's a Saturday, or do the right thing and have the meet on Friday the 3rd?

Pools are running meets on national holidays?

Wait until I tell you about the baseball and soccer tournaments on Memorial Day. You’ll be shocked that an event from 8:00 to 10:30 am would happen on July 4th.

Not the best comparison given that many places have parades, etc. on the morning of July 4th. Our swim team always participates in our town’s parade and building our float, etc is a highlight of the summer.

Plus, with Memorial Day sports tournaments your whole weekend is already shot. You are also playing on Saturday and Sunday. Moving summer swim meets to the morning of July 3rd lets families that want to get out of town for (most of) the long weekend do so while still making the meet.

Hard to see any good reason not to move meets to July 3.

Also worth noting that Memorial Day tournaments are voluntary. Teams choose to sign up for them. Many teams choose not to so as not to impact the holiday weekend.

…also worth noting that swim meets are voluntary…

You seem obsessed with having meets on the holiday. Fits the title of this thread. Good to see that many teams are taking the more rational approach and agreeing to move to July 3.

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Anonymous wrote:Really, who is doing anything important between 8 and noon on July 4th? If you're out of town, well, you're likely out all weekend so what difference does it make? Or skip the meet if you want. If your team isn't a division contender, who cares? But if your team IS a contender, get yo azz to the pool and stop moping.

POOLS are the ones pushing for Friday as far as I can tell. Our away opponent brought it up but apparently we aren't changing. July 4 it is.

We are in MCSL and our division A will be hosting Relay Carnival A on Friday, July 3 and our regular A meet on Saturday, July 4 will proceed like it is a regular Saturday meet. Who decides on these things?!!

your team reps.

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Anonymous wrote:How about whether that other mom is volunteering enough? And also, why did I just say mom and not parent?

How about whether to hold an A meet on July 4th, simply because it's a Saturday, or do the right thing and have the meet on Friday the 3rd?

Pools are running meets on national holidays?

Wait until I tell you about the baseball and soccer tournaments on Memorial Day. You’ll be shocked that an event from 8:00 to 10:30 am would happen on July 4th.

Not the best comparison given that many places have parades, etc. on the morning of July 4th. Our swim team always participates in our town’s parade and building our float, etc is a highlight of the summer.

Plus, with Memorial Day sports tournaments your whole weekend is already shot. You are also playing on Saturday and Sunday. Moving summer swim meets to the morning of July 3rd lets families that want to get out of town for (most of) the long weekend do so while still making the meet.

Hard to see any good reason not to move meets to July 3.

Also worth noting that Memorial Day tournaments are voluntary. Teams choose to sign up for them. Many teams choose not to so as not to impact the holiday weekend.

…also worth noting that swim meets are voluntary…

Anonymous wrote:Really, who is doing anything important between 8 and noon on July 4th? If you're out of town, well, you're likely out all weekend so what difference does it make? Or skip the meet if you want. If your team isn't a division contender, who cares? But if your team IS a contender, get yo azz to the pool and stop moping.

POOLS are the ones pushing for Friday as far as I can tell. Our away opponent brought it up but apparently we aren't changing. July 4 it is.

We are in MCSL and our division A will be hosting Relay Carnival A on Friday, July 3 and our regular A meet on Saturday, July 4 will proceed like it is a regular Saturday meet. Who decides on these things?!!

Fourth of July week will be brutal at our pool.

7/1 - social event at water park
7/3 - pep rally
7/4 - A meet
7/6 - B meet
7/8 - Relay Carnival

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Anonymous wrote:How about whether that other mom is volunteering enough? And also, why did I just say mom and not parent?

How about whether to hold an A meet on July 4th, simply because it's a Saturday, or do the right thing and have the meet on Friday the 3rd?

Pools are running meets on national holidays?

Wait until I tell you about the baseball and soccer tournaments on Memorial Day. You’ll be shocked that an event from 8:00 to 10:30 am would happen on July 4th.

Not the best comparison given that many places have parades, etc. on the morning of July 4th. Our swim team always participates in our town’s parade and building our float, etc is a highlight of the summer.

Plus, with Memorial Day sports tournaments your whole weekend is already shot. You are also playing on Saturday and Sunday. Moving summer swim meets to the morning of July 3rd lets families that want to get out of town for (most of) the long weekend do so while still making the meet.

Hard to see any good reason not to move meets to July 3.

Also worth noting that Memorial Day tournaments are voluntary. Teams choose to sign up for them. Many teams choose not to so as not to impact the holiday weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about whether that other mom is volunteering enough? And also, why did I just say mom and not parent?

How about whether to hold an A meet on July 4th, simply because it's a Saturday, or do the right thing and have the meet on Friday the 3rd?

Pools are running meets on national holidays?

Wait until I tell you about the baseball and soccer tournaments on Memorial Day. You’ll be shocked that an event from 8:00 to 10:30 am would happen on July 4th.

Not the best comparison given that many places have parades, etc. on the morning of July 4th. Our swim team always participates in our town’s parade and building our float, etc is a highlight of the summer.

Plus, with Memorial Day sports tournaments your whole weekend is already shot. You are also playing on Saturday and Sunday. Moving summer swim meets to the morning of July 3rd lets families that want to get out of town for (most of) the long weekend do so while still making the meet.

Hard to see any good reason not to move meets to July 3.

It’s a great comparison. Your attempts at justification are weak.