Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People vastly underestimate the social and emotional benefits of going to school with kids in their neighborhood/community. The value of going to school with the same cohort over the years (especially in large schools where you have many options for friend groups) is enormous.
Private school kids may get a better education but many of them don't have the rich community that public school kids do. There's very little running to neighbors' houses and hanging out, biking together, spending long stretches together wandering through the neighborhood. In my Bethesda neighborhood, very few of the private school kids have this, or just with or or two kids. The kids in MCPS have been together since they were in elementary school and have strong social bonds.
Having a pack of friends from childhood through high school is a strong source of emotional health and stability and there is a huge amount of research on this. It's also what makes childhood and adolescence special. I don't see this with private school kids anywhere near as close as it with local publics.
Again. If your child is struggling in school most likely they are struggling elsewhere. They can make and keep friends in the neighborhood just fine. They can’t if they can’t function in school and MCPS doesn’t address it properly.
So that’s the argument for private some have.
still waiting for someone to explain how a private school can better address something like functioning in school? Do they actually have more teachers and specialized staff that can address these needs? Are these staff paid well or competitively enough to stay for a long time in the private setting? Or are you paying for the exclusivity of keeping out the riff raff kids so your child is less distracted? I went to parochial school in a different state and there were no special ed students or extra staff that could have even assisted in the role that a paraeducator would have in public school. This was 30+ years ago so I get that times have changed, but I am really curious about the OP's goal here? Does the average private school have the staff and capacity to assist high needs kids with IEPs or other issues actually learn better?
They address the bullies. Kids can’t learn if they don’t feel safe at school. If you really can’t think why anyone would prefer private then I’m sorry?
For me? I would TOTALLY pay for private - I taught recently in MCPS. I have many teacher colleagues that send their children to private. It shocked me at first, but now? After the pandemic? Absolutely schools are not the same. I’m now pursuing another field in graduate school after having left.
The schools are also not the same curriculum wise. Standards have fallen significantly. I can believe that private holds students to a high standard so education is actually a top priority at privates. Not just surviving the day with dozens of students distracting classes. I also don’t understand the math argument that well - I do agree it’s probably the one subject MCPS can easily provide the most resources for and can find specialized teachers - rather than science and even English (which is painstakingly difficult for many students). But….our test results are not that amazing overall. I mean look how colleges now are backtracking and reviewing admission standards because students from across the country are grade levels behind in math.
Class sizes will only continue to increase or stay large while specialized instruction will begins to decrease (looking at you regional model…)
Those are a couple answers. Some parents just want something that works better for their families. There are other answers. No one has to give you the perfect answer but private schools would not be in business if public schools were desirable to all families.
No they don’t.
Yes. They can. They have the ability to remove children that public school can’t. If they don’t, then it’s the wrong school culture. It’s on the parents to vet and put the pressure on then.
They respond if they are the right administrators - which parents can vet way more than they ever could at a public.
Public school and privates ALL have bullies. Because parents are bullies.
Anonymous wrote:I’m generally curious why anyone would stay at MCPS for middle or high school with the budget cuts that are coming, along with the safety concerns in public and how they are handling things in general. The grade inflation is crazy and many kids can’t even pass their AP classes. I understand there are families who can’t afford it, but if you can, why wouldn’t you leave? I’m genuinely curious, not trying to be rude. Also if you are religious at all why wouldn’t you chose a parochial or Jewish school that are not that out of reach. I get paying 60k by why not 12k?
Anonymous wrote:We moved from an elite private school to MoCo schools. Personally, my child wanted (and we supported) a less 100% privileged environment. We appreciated the coddling when they were little, but have no interest in our kids going into their adulthood literally never having been friends with someone who needed free lunches or came from a non college educated family. No judgement to those who do private the whole way - great people and families. We just wanted different exposure a little younger than they did. These are people’s formative years and I wanted them broader experiences for my kids. We have never regretted the choice.
Anonymous wrote:People vastly underestimate the social and emotional benefits of going to school with kids in their neighborhood/community. The value of going to school with the same cohort over the years (especially in large schools where you have many options for friend groups) is enormous.
Private school kids may get a better education but many of them don't have the rich community that public school kids do. There's very little running to neighbors' houses and hanging out, biking together, spending long stretches together wandering through the neighborhood. In my Bethesda neighborhood, very few of the private school kids have this, or just with or or two kids. The kids in MCPS have been together since they were in elementary school and have strong social bonds.
Having a pack of friends from childhood through high school is a strong source of emotional health and stability and there is a huge amount of research on this. It's also what makes childhood and adolescence special. I don't see this with private school kids anywhere near as close as it with local publics.
Anonymous wrote:I hate the fact MCPS took away final exams. And the grade inflation is terrible
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People vastly underestimate the social and emotional benefits of going to school with kids in their neighborhood/community. The value of going to school with the same cohort over the years (especially in large schools where you have many options for friend groups) is enormous.
Private school kids may get a better education but many of them don't have the rich community that public school kids do. There's very little running to neighbors' houses and hanging out, biking together, spending long stretches together wandering through the neighborhood. In my Bethesda neighborhood, very few of the private school kids have this, or just with or or two kids. The kids in MCPS have been together since they were in elementary school and have strong social bonds.
Having a pack of friends from childhood through high school is a strong source of emotional health and stability and there is a huge amount of research on this. It's also what makes childhood and adolescence special. I don't see this with private school kids anywhere near as close as it with local publics.
Again. If your child is struggling in school most likely they are struggling elsewhere. They can make and keep friends in the neighborhood just fine. They can’t if they can’t function in school and MCPS doesn’t address it properly.
So that’s the argument for private some have.
still waiting for someone to explain how a private school can better address something like functioning in school? Do they actually have more teachers and specialized staff that can address these needs? Are these staff paid well or competitively enough to stay for a long time in the private setting? Or are you paying for the exclusivity of keeping out the riff raff kids so your child is less distracted? I went to parochial school in a different state and there were no special ed students or extra staff that could have even assisted in the role that a paraeducator would have in public school. This was 30+ years ago so I get that times have changed, but I am really curious about the OP's goal here? Does the average private school have the staff and capacity to assist high needs kids with IEPs or other issues actually learn better?
They address the bullies. Kids can’t learn if they don’t feel safe at school. If you really can’t think why anyone would prefer private then I’m sorry?
For me? I would TOTALLY pay for private - I taught recently in MCPS. I have many teacher colleagues that send their children to private. It shocked me at first, but now? After the pandemic? Absolutely schools are not the same. I’m now pursuing another field in graduate school after having left.
The schools are also not the same curriculum wise. Standards have fallen significantly. I can believe that private holds students to a high standard so education is actually a top priority at privates. Not just surviving the day with dozens of students distracting classes. I also don’t understand the math argument that well - I do agree it’s probably the one subject MCPS can easily provide the most resources for and can find specialized teachers - rather than science and even English (which is painstakingly difficult for many students). But….our test results are not that amazing overall. I mean look how colleges now are backtracking and reviewing admission standards because students from across the country are grade levels behind in math.
Class sizes will only continue to increase or stay large while specialized instruction will begins to decrease (looking at you regional model…)
Those are a couple answers. Some parents just want something that works better for their families. There are other answers. No one has to give you the perfect answer but private schools would not be in business if public schools were desirable to all families.
No they don’t.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m generally curious why anyone would stay at MCPS for middle or high school with the budget cuts that are coming, along with the safety concerns in public and how they are handling things in general. The grade inflation is crazy and many kids can’t even pass their AP classes. I understand there are families who can’t afford it, but if you can, why wouldn’t you leave? I’m genuinely curious, not trying to be rude. Also if you are religious at all why wouldn’t you chose a parochial or Jewish school that are not that out of reach. I get paying 60k by why not 12k?
Because I went to one and received a pretty mediocre education, especially in math and science. Why would I pay for that?
This is what no one ever wants to talk about.
Most people can’t afford an excellent private.
You won’t know a private is mediocre until your child attends and you can compare them to how a similarly aged cousin or neighbor is doing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People vastly underestimate the social and emotional benefits of going to school with kids in their neighborhood/community. The value of going to school with the same cohort over the years (especially in large schools where you have many options for friend groups) is enormous.
Private school kids may get a better education but many of them don't have the rich community that public school kids do. There's very little running to neighbors' houses and hanging out, biking together, spending long stretches together wandering through the neighborhood. In my Bethesda neighborhood, very few of the private school kids have this, or just with or or two kids. The kids in MCPS have been together since they were in elementary school and have strong social bonds.
Having a pack of friends from childhood through high school is a strong source of emotional health and stability and there is a huge amount of research on this. It's also what makes childhood and adolescence special. I don't see this with private school kids anywhere near as close as it with local publics.
Again. If your child is struggling in school most likely they are struggling elsewhere. They can make and keep friends in the neighborhood just fine. They can’t if they can’t function in school and MCPS doesn’t address it properly.
So that’s the argument for private some have.
still waiting for someone to explain how a private school can better address something like functioning in school? Do they actually have more teachers and specialized staff that can address these needs? Are these staff paid well or competitively enough to stay for a long time in the private setting? Or are you paying for the exclusivity of keeping out the riff raff kids so your child is less distracted? I went to parochial school in a different state and there were no special ed students or extra staff that could have even assisted in the role that a paraeducator would have in public school. This was 30+ years ago so I get that times have changed, but I am really curious about the OP's goal here? Does the average private school have the staff and capacity to assist high needs kids with IEPs or other issues actually learn better?
They address the bullies. Kids can’t learn if they don’t feel safe at school. If you really can’t think why anyone would prefer private then I’m sorry?
For me? I would TOTALLY pay for private - I taught recently in MCPS. I have many teacher colleagues that send their children to private. It shocked me at first, but now? After the pandemic? Absolutely schools are not the same. I’m now pursuing another field in graduate school after having left.
The schools are also not the same curriculum wise. Standards have fallen significantly. I can believe that private holds students to a high standard so education is actually a top priority at privates. Not just surviving the day with dozens of students distracting classes. I also don’t understand the math argument that well - I do agree it’s probably the one subject MCPS can easily provide the most resources for and can find specialized teachers - rather than science and even English (which is painstakingly difficult for many students). But….our test results are not that amazing overall. I mean look how colleges now are backtracking and reviewing admission standards because students from across the country are grade levels behind in math.
Class sizes will only continue to increase or stay large while specialized instruction will begins to decrease (looking at you regional model…)
Those are a couple answers. Some parents just want something that works better for their families. There are other answers. No one has to give you the perfect answer but private schools would not be in business if public schools were desirable to all families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The majority of privates aren’t better, they just have the ability to cherry pick their students and expel those that don’t comply with their rules. I am also a huge supporter of free and public education for all. I want my children to have the opportunity to interact with peers from all walks of life.
The only reason I would consider private schools is if there was a serious safety concern. But again, private schools aren’t immune to that either.
That is literally what makes them better. Privates are not perfect but bad apples are routinely expelled for things public admins just ignore and/or cover up.