There is usually zero difference in skill between the Kid 12-22 on the ECNL team and Kids 1-10 on the RL team.

Agree. But instead of bringing on someone you see 3 times in a tryout and know nothing about, look to the team below and ask the coach for their best 1-2 players. Why is there no path to promotion. Why are they not trying to develop RL kids to be ECNL kids. Why not take a chance on a known kid instead of an unknown. Maybe they aren’t good enough or ready, but they don’t know if the kid from outside the club is ready either yet they continue to give them a shot instead of a comparable kid within the club. And that is what frustrates every good RL kid and family.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know of any. But I do know some ECNL kids that just joined last year were moved down. Just proving once again that instead of taking new people Arlington should at least give the top RL kids a chance and promote them.

But I thought from earlier in the thread that the RL kids didn’t replace the ECNL kids that got pushed down. Couldn’t it be true that the RL kids aren’t ready for NL and the external players weren’t the right fit? It doesn’t necessarily follow that because the external kid didn’t stay until she went to college that the RL player was the right choice.

I don't know of any. But I do know some ECNL kids that just joined last year were moved down. Just proving once again that instead of taking new people Arlington should at least give the top RL kids a chance and promote them.

Anonymous wrote:Now that offers have gone out at Arl, any other movement from RL to ECNL?

Think in total across all age groups there were 3

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Anonymous wrote:2013 picked up about 8-9 and 2014 picked up about 5-6.

This is completely false. They did not have 13-15 outside girls at tryouts and they had combined the 2013-14 tryouts.

Arlington recruits--not all outside players have to tryout

That's dumb

You would judge a person's play on one day as opposed to perhaps four years of practice and games? No purpose at all to have existing players there. They know those players. If they were an 8 and played a 10 or a 6 on that day it would not matter. And having them there detracts from the ability to focus on the new people.

Sorry it is dumb. They take outside girls based on two practices but overlook the records of girls from other Arlington teams that have been playing on the red team.

Dumb unless you are trying to expand your customer base and drive profit.

How does it expand profit? There are X spots on a team. If they take an internal player from the second team, they just move a girl up from the third team to the second team, and find a new entrant at the bottom team. Never understood this line of reasoning. I have to go poop brb.

Because no one comes from another club for the 4th team. You won't have new entrants on the bottom.

Depends on age group. For HS, probably true. Still happens at the middle school ages.

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Anonymous wrote:2013 picked up about 8-9 and 2014 picked up about 5-6.

This is completely false. They did not have 13-15 outside girls at tryouts and they had combined the 2013-14 tryouts.

Arlington recruits--not all outside players have to tryout

That's dumb

You would judge a person's play on one day as opposed to perhaps four years of practice and games? No purpose at all to have existing players there. They know those players. If they were an 8 and played a 10 or a 6 on that day it would not matter. And having them there detracts from the ability to focus on the new people.

Sorry it is dumb. They take outside girls based on two practices but overlook the records of girls from other Arlington teams that have been playing on the red team.

Dumb unless you are trying to expand your customer base and drive profit.

How does it expand profit? There are X spots on a team. If they take an internal player from the second team, they just move a girl up from the third team to the second team, and find a new entrant at the bottom team. Never understood this line of reasoning. I have to go poop brb.

Because no one comes from another club for the 4th team. You won't have new entrants on the bottom.

Now that offers have gone out at Arl, any other movement from RL to ECNL?

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Anonymous wrote:Not one in the entire club? That’s crazy.

not really, 2nd, 3rd and 4th teams especially at the high school ages are just money grabs

Not true, there def. good players in seconds teams. Understand that every club has a system (closed to most). If you don't dance along, your player won't be included.

Anonymous wrote:Not one in the entire club? That’s crazy.

not really, 2nd, 3rd and 4th teams especially at the high school ages are just money grabs

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Anonymous wrote:2013 picked up about 8-9 and 2014 picked up about 5-6.

This is completely false. They did not have 13-15 outside girls at tryouts and they had combined the 2013-14 tryouts.

Arlington recruits--not all outside players have to tryout

That's dumb

You would judge a person's play on one day as opposed to perhaps four years of practice and games? No purpose at all to have existing players there. They know those players. If they were an 8 and played a 10 or a 6 on that day it would not matter. And having them there detracts from the ability to focus on the new people.

Sorry it is dumb. They take outside girls based on two practices but overlook the records of girls from other Arlington teams that have been playing on the red team.

Dumb unless you are trying to expand your customer base and drive profit.

How does it expand profit? There are X spots on a team. If they take an internal player from the second team, they just move a girl up from the third team to the second team, and find a new entrant at the bottom team. Never understood this line of reasoning. I have to go poop brb.

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Anonymous wrote:RL girls made NL girls this time around. Sorry it wasn't your kid.

Not from Arlington RL.

Incorrect.

what age?

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I believe there are 1-2 RL girls on 2012 who are moving *back* to ecnl now that the roster size is increasing but they used to be on ecnl

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Yes a few 2012s moving back to ECNL.

No the 2011 RL team does not have any ECNL starter level girls on the team.

Several girls from the 2011 RL team practice with the ECNL team but have never been called up to guest play in a game. It doesn't matter how high an RL team is ranked-it's almost impossible to make that leap to an ECNL team at that age, you have to look for other pathways.

Not so fast, my friend, there may be a disturbance in the force....

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Anonymous wrote:RL girls made NL girls this time around. Sorry it wasn't your kid.

Not from Arlington RL.

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what age?

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I believe there are 1-2 RL girls on 2012 who are moving *back* to ecnl now that the roster size is increasing but they used to be on ecnl

Two separate Arlington RL conversations
going on at the same time.

Yes a few 2012s moving back to ECNL.

No the 2011 RL team does not have any ECNL starter level girls on the team.

Several girls from the 2011 RL team practice with the ECNL team but have never been called up to guest play in a game. It doesn't matter how high an RL team is ranked-it's almost impossible to make that leap to an ECNL team at that age, you have to look for other pathways.

Like what? Jump to a GA team and hope to be an ID player?

Yes. Go GA. But pp is right, if you are not team 1 by 2011, you won't be.

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Anonymous wrote:2013 picked up about 8-9 and 2014 picked up about 5-6.

This is completely false. They did not have 13-15 outside girls at tryouts and they had combined the 2013-14 tryouts.

I can confirm 5-6 new ECNL girls for next year’s U13 (former 2014) age group.

Yes, all from outside, none from younger 2013
red or white girls; both have strong players. This is where Arlington falls down on developing existing talent.

Do the ECNL teams mostly practice around Long Bridge park? Several of these new players are coming from far away so im curious if Arlington makes their ECNL practices a little more accessible to fairfax and loudoun county in particular.

No

Sorry, I shouldn’t have been so binary. Where do they typically practice? By typically, let’s assume 75% of the time. TYSM

Most older ECNL U14 and up practice at Long Bridge Park.

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Anonymous wrote:RL girls made NL girls this time around. Sorry it wasn't your kid.

Not from Arlington RL.

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what age?

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I believe there are 1-2 RL girls on 2012 who are moving *back* to ecnl now that the roster size is increasing but they used to be on ecnl

Two separate Arlington RL conversations
going on at the same time.

Yes a few 2012s moving back to ECNL.

No the 2011 RL team does not have any ECNL starter level girls on the team.

Several girls from the 2011 RL team practice with the ECNL team but have never been called up to guest play in a game. It doesn't matter how high an RL team is ranked-it's almost impossible to make that leap to an ECNL team at that age, you have to look for other pathways.

Like what? Jump to a GA team and hope to be an ID player?