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Anonymous wrote:we have to remember that Wes Moore doesnt care about maryland citizens. he cares about his national prospects. he really thinks he can be president.

so anything he does in Maryland has to excite the progressives nationally. so getting in front of CNN to talk about he removed SF zoning to make Maryland "affordable" is what this is about. but he plans to be gone when it comes into effect

Spanberger will almost certainly run for president, so expect her to do all sorts of things to excite progressives also.

That picture of her in a space suit ruins her national chances in a general election.

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Anonymous wrote:its all a grift to YIMBY's and for the state/county to get more property tax revenue.

if I go into bethesda/potomac and knock down a 1.5 to 2M home and put 4 -$900K townhomes, they get taxes off 3.6M instead of 2M.

and even though this happens, property taxes wont even go down or flatten out.

its all robbery

That creates more housing at lower cost, which most people would say is a good thing.

Everyone who understands reality does not say it is a good thing when it’s their neighbor. Who wants more neighbors who are poorer than the last ones, in much uglier housing ? No one.

The reality that is uncomfortable for people to confront is that deep down most people desire exclusivity, safety, and aesthetics. “Density” brings the opposite. If you turn every SFH neighborhood into an ugly dense hellhole, a significant number of the UMC households will flee, and the area becomes undesirable and no high earners want to live there.

This is not a left or right position, it is an understanding reality position.

https://open.substack.com/pub/deepleft/p/its-not-a-housing-shortage-and-yimbys?r=3eqsy3&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay

Anonymous wrote:its all a grift to YIMBY's and for the state/county to get more property tax revenue.

if I go into bethesda/potomac and knock down a 1.5 to 2M home and put 4 -$900K townhomes, they get taxes off 3.6M instead of 2M.

and even though this happens, property taxes wont even go down or flatten out.

its all robbery

That creates more housing at lower cost, which most people would say is a good thing.

its all a grift to YIMBY's and for the state/county to get more property tax revenue.

if I go into bethesda/potomac and knock down a 1.5 to 2M home and put 4 -$900K townhomes, they get taxes off 3.6M instead of 2M.

and even though this happens, property taxes wont even go down or flatten out.

its all robbery

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds like a good idea to me. They’re not going to destroy your suburban neighborhood.

Agree! What an exaggerated hysterical title for a post.

why is it a good idea? and please note this wont add any "affordable" housing. it will mostly allow developers to take a 1.5 mill SFH and create 2 or more 900K townhomes. I guess the county/state will see more property tax income, but theyll burn through that.

will we get lower property taxes, better services, what is good about it?

Uh.. $900k is more affordable than $1.5 million

How high do you need to make minimum wage so that the dishwasher at McDonald's can afford a $900k SFH?

Not everyone can live where they want to, but we can certainly accommodate more people closer to their jobs.

Anonymous wrote:The governor of Maryland is pushing an absurb bill this year to eliminate zoning everywhere in Marylnd that has access to public sewer. The proposed bill (HB239/SB36) will do the following:
-Eliminate single family zoning
-Enforce a minimum zoned density of 8units/acre
-Eliminate lot coverage limits
-Make lot setbacks 5ft side/10ft front
-Eliminate height restrictions

I would strongly recommend calling the governors office and your state representatives to voice your opposition to this bill. This law will completely destroy many suburban neighborhoods and ruin quality of life.

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea it eliminates height restrictions. It retains the language allowing regulations on "the height, number of stories, and size of buildings and other structures" and the new language doesn't conflict with that.

There's even room for setback-based height limits, although that's debatable with the "indirectly" establishes languague.

Personally, I'm fine with a 5ft setback to the maximum height allowed.

Someone will have to explain to me how the "conservative," "let the markets work" people are also the people who want to make the whole dang state an HOA.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we have to remember that Wes Moore doesnt care about maryland citizens. he cares about his national prospects. he really thinks he can be president.

so anything he does in Maryland has to excite the progressives nationally. so getting in front of CNN to talk about he removed SF zoning to make Maryland "affordable" is what this is about. but he plans to be gone when it comes into effect

Again...this is comical. Maryland would be adopting laws that are commonplace in places like Texas and Florida.

This is bizarro world I guess where implementing laws that are commonplace in various Red states are now "progressive". BTW, basically anytime a ballot initiative happens in a red state for expanding Medicaid, increasing minimum wage, etc., it passes with flying colors.

not the same. texas and florida are restricting SF zoning size to encourage more density instead of bigger lots. they can keep their sf neighborhoods.

moore is saying you can build whatever you want , wherever you want. thats is purely yimby and designed to excite progressives who all of the sudden hate single family homes. although almost all the white progressive grew up in single family homes.

mostly, I think moore just sees more property tax money especially in affluent areas. tear down a 1.5 million home and build four(4) 900K townhomes. now he gets revenue of 3.6Million instead of 1.5Million.

I don't know what this means...at all. I spend the Winter in FL and in the SF neighborhood where I am renting there is a fairly large condo building (three floors and 6 units) going up literally across the street (it was a SFH torn down)...and 1/2 a block away a SFH home that also had commercial zoning is being converted into a hipster tattoo parlor (in theory, it will attract more UMC types).

The neighborhood is not up-in-arms about either of these developments...because that's what people understand when they are here.

FL, TX, AZ and other red states have tons of private HOA communities because zoning is so permissive.

I guess it is natural assortment. If you want strict zoning, building standards, rules on paint colors and what not, etc., then you can buy in an HOA. If you want the freedom to do just about whatever you want with your property, you don't buy in an HOA.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we have to remember that Wes Moore doesnt care about maryland citizens. he cares about his national prospects. he really thinks he can be president.

so anything he does in Maryland has to excite the progressives nationally. so getting in front of CNN to talk about he removed SF zoning to make Maryland "affordable" is what this is about. but he plans to be gone when it comes into effect

Again...this is comical. Maryland would be adopting laws that are commonplace in places like Texas and Florida.

This is bizarro world I guess where implementing laws that are commonplace in various Red states are now "progressive". BTW, basically anytime a ballot initiative happens in a red state for expanding Medicaid, increasing minimum wage, etc., it passes with flying colors.

not the same. texas and florida are restricting SF zoning size to encourage more density instead of bigger lots. they can keep their sf neighborhoods.

moore is saying you can build whatever you want , wherever you want. thats is purely yimby and designed to excite progressives who all of the sudden hate single family homes. although almost all the white progressive grew up in single family homes.

mostly, I think moore just sees more property tax money especially in affluent areas. tear down a 1.5 million home and build four(4) 900K townhomes. now he gets revenue of 3.6Million instead of 1.5Million.

I don't know what this means...at all. I spend the Winter in FL and in the SF neighborhood where I am renting there is a fairly large condo building (three floors and 6 units) going up literally across the street (it was a SFH torn down)...and 1/2 a block away a SFH home that also had commercial zoning is being converted into a hipster tattoo parlor (in theory, it will attract more UMC types).

The neighborhood is not up-in-arms about either of these developments...because that's what people understand when they are here.

He should focus on cleaning up all the trash on the beltway, both Baltimore and capital. 95 is littered with trash as well. No other state has such trashy looking highways, it's overgrown and dangerous as well.

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Anonymous wrote:we have to remember that Wes Moore doesnt care about maryland citizens. he cares about his national prospects. he really thinks he can be president.

so anything he does in Maryland has to excite the progressives nationally. so getting in front of CNN to talk about he removed SF zoning to make Maryland "affordable" is what this is about. but he plans to be gone when it comes into effect

Again...this is comical. Maryland would be adopting laws that are commonplace in places like Texas and Florida.

This is bizarro world I guess where implementing laws that are commonplace in various Red states are now "progressive". BTW, basically anytime a ballot initiative happens in a red state for expanding Medicaid, increasing minimum wage, etc., it passes with flying colors.

not the same. texas and florida are restricting SF zoning size to encourage more density instead of bigger lots. they can keep their sf neighborhoods.

moore is saying you can build whatever you want , wherever you want. thats is purely yimby and designed to excite progressives who all of the sudden hate single family homes. although almost all the white progressive grew up in single family homes.

mostly, I think moore just sees more property tax money especially in affluent areas. tear down a 1.5 million home and build four(4) 900K townhomes. now he gets revenue of 3.6Million instead of 1.5Million.

Anonymous wrote:we have to remember that Wes Moore doesnt care about maryland citizens. he cares about his national prospects. he really thinks he can be president.

so anything he does in Maryland has to excite the progressives nationally. so getting in front of CNN to talk about he removed SF zoning to make Maryland "affordable" is what this is about. but he plans to be gone when it comes into effect

Again...this is comical. Maryland would be adopting laws that are commonplace in places like Texas and Florida.

This is bizarro world I guess where implementing laws that are commonplace in various Red states are now "progressive". BTW, basically anytime a ballot initiative happens in a red state for expanding Medicaid, increasing minimum wage, etc., it passes with flying colors.

Anonymous wrote:we have to remember that Wes Moore doesnt care about maryland citizens. he cares about his national prospects. he really thinks he can be president.

so anything he does in Maryland has to excite the progressives nationally. so getting in front of CNN to talk about he removed SF zoning to make Maryland "affordable" is what this is about. but he plans to be gone when it comes into effect

Spanberger will almost certainly run for president, so expect her to do all sorts of things to excite progressives also.

we have to remember that Wes Moore doesnt care about maryland citizens. he cares about his national prospects. he really thinks he can be president.

so anything he does in Maryland has to excite the progressives nationally. so getting in front of CNN to talk about he removed SF zoning to make Maryland "affordable" is what this is about. but he plans to be gone when it comes into effect

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Anonymous wrote:I'll be voting republicans next election. Sadly, I realize there are too many communist/socialist/progressives in MD for my vote to make any difference.

As much as I'd like to live here my whole life (I truly do), I think I'll have to move once I have some financial independence.

Where are you going? Everyone keeps claiming they will leave, but nobody says where they are going.

The states with the most permissive zoning / no zoning are red states. Go to FL or TX and you can literally build a quasi-industrial site in residential neighborhoods, not to mention condos or apartments.

It’s quite strange to say you will vote Republican in order to get more government regulation.

Virginia

There is a whole thread about how the state of VA is introducing laws that significantly relax zoning and will allow you to build trailer parks in desirable SFH areas (of course...I don't think the economics would ever work...but you could do it).