Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I might spend more on vacations or other family events. Your kids will grow up and not be as interested in spending time with you. If you can spend some $$ now, do it.
This or the kids won’t be able to spend time with you. Once they high high school, if they play a sport, vacation opportunities are very limited. We take as much as we can.
Anonymous wrote:We live nicely in DC area with decent HHI to support our lives however I’m cheap and we don’t have new cars or fancy vacations. I know that I will inherit at least $6M at some point. Parents in late 70’s. Would you do things differently like splurge on vacations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i supported my parents through the last 25 years of their life; that was mostly 30k a year until the last several years which turned into more like $200k a year with memory care.
there is currently a generational trust in my spouses family but they are likely to live at least another 25 years. i view the actual inheritance to be the fact that we won't have to monetarily support them in old age. the primary lifestyle change we made is that we did decide to have children; i probably would not have done IVF if there had been any danger of needing to support the previous generation for significant years.
they have set up nice 529s for our children, and they buy the plane tickets for us to visit; those are the primary extent of our planning reliance on their money. (though we still contribute what our state allows for deductions to another 529). spouses tax-advantaged retirement funds are a little light for their age, which likely reflects some unconscious reliance on inheritance but their overall portfolio is fine. i'm contributing the max i can to mine including catch-up.
in short, my perspective is that there is no windfall coming, and i live my life accordingly. our newest car is almost 20 years old and that's completely fine. we have a decent UMC life, and i'm delighted to hopefully have decades where they can enjoy their grandchildren.
$200k a year on memory care is criminal and unnecessary. If this were the going rate, then think of how many people would work as memory care providers 24-7. No college education necessary but you live with someone and they pay you $200k a year. The market for this is incredibly small. Many people paying amounts like this are big spenders their entire life, or taken for a wild ride.
The average length of LTC is 2-4 years. During this time, your money should be growing and if you’re a widow then you should not have any other expenses since you’re not living at home.
I do feel bad for the elderly who spend large portions of their net worth on care, when it truly isn’t necessary. The large corporations providing care aren’t necessarily providing better care as their employees are often paid very little or minimum wage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You shouldn’t change anything. Act as if you won’t get it. 6 million isn’t enough to live on anymore, so don’t get ahead of your self planning on a possible inheritance.
6m is very conservatively 200k+ per year. You can easily live on that.
I couldn’t but good for you.
+1
I "could" but that is not how I want to live my life at 55+. So we have planned for and have much more so we can live how we want in retirement.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:i supported my parents through the last 25 years of their life; that was mostly 30k a year until the last several years which turned into more like $200k a year with memory care.
there is currently a generational trust in my spouses family but they are likely to live at least another 25 years. i view the actual inheritance to be the fact that we won't have to monetarily support them in old age. the primary lifestyle change we made is that we did decide to have children; i probably would not have done IVF if there had been any danger of needing to support the previous generation for significant years.
they have set up nice 529s for our children, and they buy the plane tickets for us to visit; those are the primary extent of our planning reliance on their money. (though we still contribute what our state allows for deductions to another 529). spouses tax-advantaged retirement funds are a little light for their age, which likely reflects some unconscious reliance on inheritance but their overall portfolio is fine. i'm contributing the max i can to mine including catch-up.
in short, my perspective is that there is no windfall coming, and i live my life accordingly. our newest car is almost 20 years old and that's completely fine. we have a decent UMC life, and i'm delighted to hopefully have decades where they can enjoy their grandchildren.
$200k a year on memory care is criminal and unnecessary. If this were the going rate, then think of how many people would work as memory care providers 24-7. No college education necessary but you live with someone and they pay you $200k a year. The market for this is incredibly small. Many people paying amounts like this are big spenders their entire life, or taken for a wild ride.
The average length of LTC is 2-4 years. During this time, your money should be growing and if you’re a widow then you should not have any other expenses since you’re not living at home.
I do feel bad for the elderly who spend large portions of their net worth on care, when it truly isn’t necessary. The large corporations providing care aren’t necessarily providing better care as their employees are often paid very little or minimum wage.
Anonymous wrote:Do not plan for this. Mom dies, dad remarries, new wife takes all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Money is so much more useful when you are younger. We inherited some money a couple of years ago at the age of 50. Our kids were already in college/about to start college. We already owned a house etc.
We don’t really need this money as we had saved for college and retirement without knowing we would eventually inherit, and we don’t benefit from it like we would’ve when we were younger (we had some student loans, bought in a not great school district etc.).
I don’t have a direct answer for you but this experience has made us rethink how we can use the money to support our kids while they are in their 20s and 30s rather than just having them inherit it once they are settled and have less need for the money.
Very very true! This is why we are following the "die with nothing" mentality, and gifting away while we are alive. Our 20 something kids had college fully funded, and grad school (if/when they need it) as well. We start them out with a new car upon college graduation (think $35K+ vehicle, will last them at least 10 years), and we gift them $38K yearly (19K*2). So they can max their ROTH and 401Ks and save for a house downpayment. They know any future grandkids will have their education fully funded. They will be able to buy a home that is an easy commute to work for them (and their spouse) so they have a higher quality of life. They will be able to afford the home also in a good school district (or use private). Take away those worries and they are set for life, even if we don't give anything else (they will be getting much more). Because fact is $$$ when you are starting out is worth so much more than when you are 50-60+. It can change the trajectory of your life
Totally agree. We had friends whose parents would pay their annual country club membership every year (plus many other things). Such a nice quality of life thing.
As long as our adult kids continue to be motivated, responsible, contributing members of society (ie not doing drugs or something illegal), they will receive those benefits. We want to see their lives change when it matters and for our future grandkids. We want them to have a good quality to their lives. So far it's working, all 3 are highly motivated and doing well (2 have great jobs, one still in college). They appreciate all they have and it's fun to watch them grow up and enjoy life without the financial struggles we had at that age
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Money is so much more useful when you are younger. We inherited some money a couple of years ago at the age of 50. Our kids were already in college/about to start college. We already owned a house etc.
We don’t really need this money as we had saved for college and retirement without knowing we would eventually inherit, and we don’t benefit from it like we would’ve when we were younger (we had some student loans, bought in a not great school district etc.).
I don’t have a direct answer for you but this experience has made us rethink how we can use the money to support our kids while they are in their 20s and 30s rather than just having them inherit it once they are settled and have less need for the money.
Very very true! This is why we are following the "die with nothing" mentality, and gifting away while we are alive. Our 20 something kids had college fully funded, and grad school (if/when they need it) as well. We start them out with a new car upon college graduation (think $35K+ vehicle, will last them at least 10 years), and we gift them $38K yearly (19K*2). So they can max their ROTH and 401Ks and save for a house downpayment. They know any future grandkids will have their education fully funded. They will be able to buy a home that is an easy commute to work for them (and their spouse) so they have a higher quality of life. They will be able to afford the home also in a good school district (or use private). Take away those worries and they are set for life, even if we don't give anything else (they will be getting much more). Because fact is $$$ when you are starting out is worth so much more than when you are 50-60+. It can change the trajectory of your life
Totally agree. We had friends whose parents would pay their annual country club membership every year (plus many other things). Such a nice quality of life thing.
Anonymous wrote:We live nicely in DC area with decent HHI to support our lives however I’m cheap and we don’t have new cars or fancy vacations. I know that I will inherit at least $6M at some point. Parents in late 70’s. Would you do things differently like splurge on vacations?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You shouldn’t change anything. Act as if you won’t get it. 6 million isn’t enough to live on anymore, so don’t get ahead of your self planning on a possible inheritance.
6m is very conservatively 200k+ per year. You can easily live on that.
Yeh in 1980
C’mon. With a paid off house you can easily live on $200k.
My elderly mother spends $75k a year and this includes home maintenance and decent international travel. She is able to do this because she has no mortgage, car payment or any sort of significant bills.
Her net worth grows significantly every year.