Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Wow. 4 to 5 times more likely?
Which is 5% vs 20-25% . . . .
So the acceptance rate for legacies is 20% or 25%(!) and for non-legacies it’s 5%? That is, as the article says, “a fairly large statistical advantage.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Wow. 4 to 5 times more likely?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Wow. 4 to 5 times more likely?
Anonymous wrote:Unapologetically.
You are not donors.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Wow. 4 to 5 times more likely?
Which is 5% vs 20-25% . . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Wow. 4 to 5 times more likely?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, he's very lucky because that's what it is. Luck.
No, the point is he had a hook. That isn’t luck.
It’s luck to have legacy status.
It means the kid is lucky to have legacy but it wasn’t by luck he was admitted. He could say I’m lucky to have had legacy status but this doesn’t work:
Friend: you got in because you’re a legacy
Kid: I got in bc I am lucky.
He didn’t get admitted due to luck…he got admitted bc of legacy, which is a hook.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid had legacy status at my elite alma mater but that’s only because my parents worked hard and had the means to pay for it.
What does that have to do with your kid's credentials?
Point is that having legacy status is pure luck. Something over which kids have no control.
+1
Don't get this, no they don't control who their parents are but they do control whether they use or don't use the status from that. If you really want to test it apply and don't check the legacy box . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nothing to say. Maybe it helped, maybe it didn’t. I doubt anyone is saying this to your face anyhow
Op here, it did happen to my kid and to his face. Not a troll.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Wow. 4 to 5 times more likely?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, he's very lucky because that's what it is. Luck.
No, the point is he had a hook. That isn’t luck.
It’s luck to have legacy status.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the OP: please note that so many of these responses are clearly from people who do not have legacy status to offer to their kids.
The vast majority of legacies would be there anyway, or worst case it is a tie-breaker. There are a few well-publicized cases of kids who get a big boost from it. These tend to be filthy rich kids so it is very obvious.
If these kids are too dumb to understand it, let them live in their sad little world. Tell your child to hold their head high and know that they fully deserve to be there and not to care what these small people think.
+1 - people without legacy at top schools build it up in their minds into something it’s not. Most of my classmates’ kids are not getting into my college with it’s 4 % admissions rate either
+1
It helps but it’s still tough.
Not as tough as it is for non-legacies, right? It helps.
Slightly less tough.
It helps but it’s still tough.
Depends on school but for most top tier schools legacies have a 20-30% chance whereas unhooked have a 5% chance. . . It's a significant difference
Which school goes from 5% to 30%?
DP. Not sure what school is being referred to, but here is some interesting data.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/upshot/ivy-league-legacy-admissions.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid had legacy status at my elite alma mater but that’s only because my parents worked hard and had the means to pay for it.
What does that have to do with your kid's credentials?
Point is that having legacy status is pure luck. Something over which kids have no control.
+1