MCPS W school
3.4 GPA
Full pay
ACT 33
male

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, seems like U Mich may have misread the situation. Early decision is a different deal than early action. Future applicants are not going to want to burn their ED option next year on Michigan given the high deferral rate.

Correct, but it’s not that.

After the football coaching scandal, NO ONE will apply to U.Mich next year.

LOL you are an idiot

Penn State would like a word
UF would like a word

ETC.....

Anonymous wrote:It was your kids major.

As the parent of a deferred kid with a relatively popular major, I think this is the best explanation. Filling less-subscribed majors is the very definition of an institutional priority.

I also think they took far fewer kids ED than we might have expected. I was guessing they would fill maybe 30% of the class, but what if it was only 15%? If half are in-state, that’s like 600 slots for the rest of the country. Or what if they prioritized Michigan kids in ED, and only 30% were out of state? Again, another understandable institutional priority.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, seems like U Mich may have misread the situation. Early decision is a different deal than early action. Future applicants are not going to want to burn their ED option next year on Michigan given the high deferral rate.

Correct, but it’s not that.

After the football coaching scandal, NO ONE will apply to U.Mich next year.

Is the dirty little secret that very high stats kids break their ED commitments? That would explain the deferrals.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but now they're in the RD pool which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take.

UVA did the same thing. Highly qualified in-state students shut out and a lot of lower stats students in. Makes no sense. I hope their stats drop like a stone.

When did this uva do this? The ED round just announced? How do you know/how many kids are you talking?

I know of very high stats who were deferred in ED round while slightly above average were accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:They basically treated these kids exactly the same as they've treated EA kids for years--deferred them to the next step. These kids gave up their only ED chance for nothing.
What a joke.

I think deferred ED OOS applicants will still end up with a better acceptance rate than EA/RD applicants. They know these kids really want to go. That being said, a lot may end up opting for ED2 elsewhere.

but why ED? for high stats kids, Michigan EA has never been a hard admit. From our private (in nyc), every single kid with a 1500 on the SAT has gotten in EA for last 5 years (as far back as our Naviance shows), no matter the GPA. And they're deferring these kids ED? Our high school counselor said she. felt confident about DS's chances at Michigan - I'm relieved he decided to ED elsewhere.

Anonymous wrote:I think last cycle stats were about a
12% OOS Acceptance Rate
15.3 In-state Acceptance Rate

Where are you getting those numbers?

Umich has not yet published the IS/OOS acceptance breakdown for the last cycle (fall 2025). In fact, they haven't yet published those numbers for fall 2024.

Anonymous wrote:Public MCPS
3.5 GPA
ACT 34
Full pay

congrats!!

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Anonymous wrote:DS is in!
CA private (we are an ex-DMV family)
3.6 GPA, 34 ACT
Econ/History
full pay

Very relieved. This semester isn't going well for DS and he's facing a possible C, so we're really happy to have this admission in hand and be done with college admissions before his GPA travels south!

if he continues to travel south, he might end up at Georgia Tech

Troll
Georgia Tech last cycle
9% OOS acceptance rate
12.7 % Overall acceptance rate

I think last cycle stats were about a
12% OOS Acceptance Rate
15.3 In-state Acceptance Rate

It was your kids major.

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Anonymous wrote:3.91 GPA, 1510 SAT, 11 AP 5s, In-state, president of key club. Child got flat out rejected from LSA today. We're currently distraught.

I'm sorry. Are you my anonymous Grosse Pointe buddy?

How about MSU Honors College/Pitt (my undergrad)/Indiana then transfer if not happy?

Our backup plan was Dearborn then transfer. The campus actually has decent amenities. I realize your kid is overqualified.

When I was an MBA, my BBA mentee was a transfer in to A2 at the sophomore mark.

Don't rule it out. Plus there's always grad school.

Anonymous Grosse Pointe buddy here! (Unless there is more than one of us…). That’s not me, not our time yet. But I’m SO curious what the stats are for our high school. Certainly a lot of kids always go to Michigan, but now how many did ED and what was the acceptance rate??? Hope to find out because it will have a ripple effect for a long time.

There are probably about 3-4 posters from Detroit Metro with kids already at Michigan who pop in. And I think 2 from Grosse Pointe. I live in Woodward Dream Cruise Land, a few miles north of Eminem's favorite road. Of course I have no idea if the others are still here. But it's funny when people know that the governor went to MSU and where the best restaurants are in A2.

Naviance looked pretty reliable for our public in-state high school for Class of 24. 3.8 unweighted is a bright line cutoff (most of these would be top 10-15% of class with APs and IB classes). We don't have reliably large numbers of AP classes and only 2 full year AP credits available to 9th & 10th graders. Also, although IB English, History and Language are popular, few students are pursuing the IB diploma. Most of our kids go LSA. A few Engineers.

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Anonymous wrote:I know that they received over 100K applications. I can't remember where I saw the number. Looking now.

115K total applications and 109K first-year applications.

What’s so special about Michigan? Like sure great school, but 100,000 for a good state school feels insane.

They have been getting that number each year since COVID basically.

It is a popular school, arguably the best combination of academics and big time sports/school spirit in the country.

UT? Cal? UCLA? UNC? UVA?

UT, UNC, and to a lesser extent, Cal annd UCLA accept anyone OOS. UVA athletics can’t compare to Big 10 sports.

Not really. Michigan has so many top-ranked programs. Has a great business school, law school and med school as well. And Michigan dominates in several sports. Most other schools have one main sport where they dominate. It has strong academics, great outplacement to top grad schools. There's something for everyone. And like others said, it has a long history of taking OOS and international kids, which gives it a different flavor from other state schools. And Ann Arbor is an amazing town that has previously been voted the best place to live in America.

Wtf does that have to do with the comment.

T f it has to do with the comment is that one poster proffered other universities, suggesting that they should be as popular and on par with Michigan. They're not.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's crazy because they deferred many 4.0/1580s and admitted a lot of 3.7/1450s. this makes no sense because they could have locked down those high stats kids and now they'll lose many of them. They always end up taking the 3.7/1450s off the waitlist but why take them now?

it's going to have a ricochet effect of chaos because some of the 4.0/1580s would have Ed'd elsewhere in a prior year and would have been locked down and out of the admission pool but [b]now they're in the RD pool [/b]which always causes chaos for a high school they end up accumulating admissions they'll never take. [/quote]

According to reports from elsewhere, some deferrals say their portal says decision by end of January (which means they're in the EA pool), and other deferrals are saying decision by April (RD pool).[/quote]

My kid is a high-stats deferral with a January decision date. Even if he gets in then, he's staying in the RD pool for good other schools. Now wants to consider his options. [/quote]

As he should. Michigan just lost him and many like him and took kids with much lower stats. So stupid. It's like no one told them what the definition of ED was. [/quote]

I’m the PP, and here’s the thing: schools have priorities. Everyone assumed Michigan’s priority with ED was to get the highest stat kids. Turns out…we were all wrong! And that’s their call to make. My kid doesn’t regret EDing there. If he ends up getting in, it will definitely be a top option. But now he’ll have other options, too.[/quote]

But what was the priority? DC is a high stats OOS kid, legacy, etc. that was deferred. Why institute ED if you are just going to postpone everyone? [/quote]

They didn't postpone everyone. One theory is that the priority was undersubscribed majors. Who knows? Michigan isn't telling us right now.

I'm disappointed my high stats kid got deferred. But I also understand that high stats are not the only thing worth prioritizing.