Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 08:17     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


This is what caused me to look rightward. I was a democrat, always voted democratic. But I had views like, crime should be punished, and police should be funded. People insisted I was maga, racist, etc. So then I decided that maybe they were right and I started listening to right-wing podcasts. And that's how I went from MoCo white liberal woman to MAGA mom.


It’s an inherently feminine and fear-based movement, so this tracks.

Have you gotten your pink Glock yet?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 08:13     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


This is what caused me to look rightward. I was a democrat, always voted democratic. But I had views like, crime should be punished, and police should be funded. People insisted I was maga, racist, etc. So then I decided that maybe they were right and I started listening to right-wing podcasts. And that's how I went from MoCo white liberal woman to MAGA mom.

Stop embarrassing yourself, you caricature.


You weighed in to insult me. So on brand! Hows the Trump presidency going for you?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 04:26     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


This is what caused me to look rightward. I was a democrat, always voted democratic. But I had views like, crime should be punished, and police should be funded. People insisted I was maga, racist, etc. So then I decided that maybe they were right and I started listening to right-wing podcasts. And that's how I went from MoCo white liberal woman to MAGA mom.

Stop embarrassing yourself, you caricature.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 03:00     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.




No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


This is what caused me to look rightward. I was a democrat, always voted democratic. But I had views like, crime should be punished, and police should be funded. People insisted I was maga, racist, etc. So then I decided that maybe they were right and I started listening to right-wing podcasts. And that's how I went from MoCo white liberal woman to MAGA mom.


You went from bad to worse.


A good read/video is from Angus Deaton

Deaton’s observations will be familiar to you in the sensible immigration movement.

“The economic and societal changes that followed the curtailment of immigration “made possible the success of the civil rights revolution of the 1950s and 1960s,” according to Stanford economic historian Gavin Wright.

Without the immigration reduction, the Great Migration of Black southerners to the North and West would not have occurred as it did, and the civil rights movement would never have progressed as it did. The Great Migration and the resulting rapid rise in Black incomes spurred the increased enrollment at Historic Black Colleges and the elevated numbers of Black lawyers, physicians, clergy, and other professionals whose ranks produced the leaders of the civil rights movement. Without the Great Migration and the Great Leveling, it is difficult to imagine the civil rights movement successes in the 1950s and 1960s.
“If the trends in Black progress during the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s had continued, America would be a far different society today. 
“But progress for the average Black wage earner stalled in the 1970s.”

On immigration, the Angus Deaton, a Princeton professor writes:
“I used to subscribe to the near consensus among economists that immigration to the US was a good thing, with great benefits to the migrants and little or no cost to domestic low-skilled workers. I no longer think so. Economists’ beliefs are not unanimous on this but are shaped by econometric designs that may be credible but often rest on short-term outcomes. Longer-term analysis over the past century and a half tells a different story. Inequality was high when America was open, was much lower when the borders were closed, and rose again post Hart-Celler (the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965) as the fraction of foreign-born people rose back to its levels in the Gilded Age. It has also been plausibly argued that the Great Migration of millions of African Americans from the rural South to the factories in the North would not have happened if factory owners had been able to hire the European migrants they preferred.”

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2024/03/Symposium-Rethinking-Economics-Angus-Deaton


watch how Angus schools Krugman about income inequality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRBsDcHoWZU
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 02:07     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


This is what caused me to look rightward. I was a democrat, always voted democratic. But I had views like, crime should be punished, and police should be funded. People insisted I was maga, racist, etc. So then I decided that maybe they were right and I started listening to right-wing podcasts. And that's how I went from MoCo white liberal woman to MAGA mom.


You went from bad to worse.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 01:56     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


This is what caused me to look rightward. I was a democrat, always voted democratic. But I had views like, crime should be punished, and police should be funded. People insisted I was maga, racist, etc. So then I decided that maybe they were right and I started listening to right-wing podcasts. And that's how I went from MoCo white liberal woman to MAGA mom.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 01:19     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


Stay true to yourself. What you describe as behavior towards you is not a product of mainstream American beliefs. The Trump era in politics combined with weakness out of the Dem Party during that same time frame has most of us confused.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 01:02     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.


+1 Yes to all, very much so!
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 00:46     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.


I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.


When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.


No one is saying they did pre-Biden. Frankly, what happened is post Trump, very loud progressives seemed to have become a larger part of the party. This really ramped up in 2020. We saw things like defund the police, defending / denial around the caravans of people coming across the border, and more of a lax on crime posture across America — all things that are not necessarily popular with run of the mill democrats, but I think a lot of folks were gaslighted or outright chastised into keeping their mouth shut around these issues. I have literally been called a MAGA more times than I can count on this very forum for voicing my opinion on of lax on crime policies in cities (including DC), the fact that the sheer number of immigrants over the past few years has been too high of a number, and a few others. Meanwhile I am quite literally a democrat having voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Kamala. The bullying is real by ultra progressives — if you aren’t progressive enough to them they will call you a MAGA, Russian Bot, etc.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 00:24     Subject: Re:NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

ICE needs to be abolished because no immigrant is illegal.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 00:17     Subject: NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Immigration clearly threw the election to Trump. Highest share of foreign born population since the late 1800’s (14.8%).

Every time that number gets above 10% the pushback begins. The US is a country of immigrants but there is a limit. Keep it under 10% and nobody makes it an issue, especially if it’s mostly legal immigration.

The last time laws were passed restricting immigration it lasted for 50 years and the foreign born percentage declined to 4.7% by 1970. The current situation is just the beginning, don’t expect a change when Trump leaves. The population wants the level to decline and end the chaos that was going on.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2025 22:58     Subject: NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Trump. I disagree with many of his policies vehemently.

I also was disgusted for three years as my elected leaders and their minions lied to me repeatedly regarding their ability to control our national borders. And they in fact worked against the majority opinion of Americans that uninvited people should largely not be released into the country, where they, as foreigners, have no right to be.

So I voted for Trump to stop the lies and disrespect for American citizens, and guess what, he showed, despite all his faults, that our government was not powerless, and it could do something about the problem. I'm sorry it came to that, but maybe listen to the American people next time.


I can’t even fathom what you tried to say.


He’s saying Joe INTENTIONALLY allowed millions of illegals in. Then in Trump’s second term he PROVED the border could be controlled.

So say what you want about the orange guy, he manages to get the job done.


It wasn't important to the democrats though. They explained they would only control the border IF their bill to hire more people etc was passed. I think they genuinely believed voters would accept this as okay.


Dems backed the bipartisan border bill, which would have massively increased border patrol staffing, funds for securing the border, funds to speed up deportations and so on. Trump killed that bill because he wanted the issue rather than wanting to solve it. He cared more about wedges than solutions.


Yeah, that's what you all said. But voters rejected it as BS.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2025 14:05     Subject: NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Trump. I disagree with many of his policies vehemently.

I also was disgusted for three years as my elected leaders and their minions lied to me repeatedly regarding their ability to control our national borders. And they in fact worked against the majority opinion of Americans that uninvited people should largely not be released into the country, where they, as foreigners, have no right to be.

So I voted for Trump to stop the lies and disrespect for American citizens, and guess what, he showed, despite all his faults, that our government was not powerless, and it could do something about the problem. I'm sorry it came to that, but maybe listen to the American people next time.


I can’t even fathom what you tried to say.


He’s saying Joe INTENTIONALLY allowed millions of illegals in. Then in Trump’s second term he PROVED the border could be controlled.

So say what you want about the orange guy, he manages to get the job done.


It wasn't important to the democrats though. They explained they would only control the border IF their bill to hire more people etc was passed. I think they genuinely believed voters would accept this as okay.


Dems backed the bipartisan border bill, which would have massively increased border patrol staffing, funds for securing the border, funds to speed up deportations and so on. Trump killed that bill because he wanted the issue rather than wanting to solve it. He cared more about wedges than solutions.


I'm not undeestanding how Trump has accomplished what he has done regarding immigration, but the Drmocrats and Biden couldn't without that bill?


Worse. The bill would not have required any changes unless the daily number of illegal aliens exceeded 5000 a day. Less than 5000 a day and nothing changed. It was an awful bill.

HR2 - As usual, the globalists at DCUM completely ignored HR2. HR2 includes a laundry list of essential immigration reforms long fought for by immigration experts;
* Plugging loopholes in the asylum system that are currently being exploited by economic migrants by raising the bar for “credible fear” claims and denying entry to aliens claiming asylum at the border who have passed through a safe third country on their way to the United States and failed to apply in that safe country;
* Blocking the administration from continuing its catch-and-release policy by making most illegal aliens ineligible for parole or release from custody other than to be returned to their home country or to a contiguous country to await the adjudication of their asylum claim there (Remain in Mexico);.
* Preventing family units who cross the border illegally from being released into the United States by requiring family units apprehended at the border to be detained, protecting them from exploitation and victimization by the cartels and traffickers;
* Reining in the breathtaking and illegal abuse of parole that this administration has been using to create its own immigration system outside of the confines of the Immigration and Nationality Act; and
* Installing teeth into efforts to deter visa overstays.

Perhaps most importantly, the bill would require employers to check the legal status of new hires through the free, easy-to-use E-Verify system. By making it much harder for illegal aliens to find jobs, the reform would deter would-be migrants from ever journeying to the United States.

and yet Democrats have shown they are not serious about controlling immigration, and it seems that increasing immigration is a policy choice by Democrats/WAPO.

Anonymous
Post 12/28/2025 11:45     Subject: NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Trump. I disagree with many of his policies vehemently.

I also was disgusted for three years as my elected leaders and their minions lied to me repeatedly regarding their ability to control our national borders. And they in fact worked against the majority opinion of Americans that uninvited people should largely not be released into the country, where they, as foreigners, have no right to be.

So I voted for Trump to stop the lies and disrespect for American citizens, and guess what, he showed, despite all his faults, that our government was not powerless, and it could do something about the problem. I'm sorry it came to that, but maybe listen to the American people next time.


I can’t even fathom what you tried to say.


He’s saying Joe INTENTIONALLY allowed millions of illegals in. Then in Trump’s second term he PROVED the border could be controlled.

So say what you want about the orange guy, he manages to get the job done.


It wasn't important to the democrats though. They explained they would only control the border IF their bill to hire more people etc was passed. I think they genuinely believed voters would accept this as okay.


Dems backed the bipartisan border bill, which would have massively increased border patrol staffing, funds for securing the border, funds to speed up deportations and so on. Trump killed that bill because he wanted the issue rather than wanting to solve it. He cared more about wedges than solutions.


I'm not undeestanding how Trump has accomplished what he has done regarding immigration, but the Drmocrats and Biden couldn't without that bill?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2025 11:36     Subject: NYT on How Biden Lost the Election due to Immigration Policy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't stand Trump. I disagree with many of his policies vehemently.

I also was disgusted for three years as my elected leaders and their minions lied to me repeatedly regarding their ability to control our national borders. And they in fact worked against the majority opinion of Americans that uninvited people should largely not be released into the country, where they, as foreigners, have no right to be.

So I voted for Trump to stop the lies and disrespect for American citizens, and guess what, he showed, despite all his faults, that our government was not powerless, and it could do something about the problem. I'm sorry it came to that, but maybe listen to the American people next time.


I can’t even fathom what you tried to say.


He’s saying Joe INTENTIONALLY allowed millions of illegals in. Then in Trump’s second term he PROVED the border could be controlled.

So say what you want about the orange guy, he manages to get the job done.


It wasn't important to the democrats though. They explained they would only control the border IF their bill to hire more people etc was passed. I think they genuinely believed voters would accept this as okay.


Dems backed the bipartisan border bill, which would have massively increased border patrol staffing, funds for securing the border, funds to speed up deportations and so on. Trump killed that bill because he wanted the issue rather than wanting to solve it. He cared more about wedges than solutions.