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Anonymous wrote:

https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry," she added.

"Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it," said the mom of two."

This part didn’t land well with me. It sounds extremely dysfunctional to spend your “whole life” trying to be the good girl, protecting your mom, and not make her angry. I get that to some extent, we’re all like that and it’s human nature, but for it to be such a big part of her, this was sad to me. To grow up in fear of “adding to the tragedy” is such a heavy burden.

This poor family.

Mmm, it’s pretty typical for the oldest daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:I know so many young adults with devastating cancers. We have done something awful to ourselves.

This. I think our environment is pulling the trigger on pandora's box. The chemicals in our foods, pollutants, pesticides, chemicals on our clothes, endocrine disruptors, carcinogens, the crap the animals we eat are given, etc.=it's all created the perfect storm. She's led and healthy lifestyle and is young. Where is this all going? The number of young people diagnosed keeps increasing.

And environmental regulations are being slashed as well by our own government. I don’t hear many speaking out about that but it’s a big factor.

Anonymous wrote:Is it heartbreaking because she is famous? This is happening to countless people at the moment.

It’s heartbreaking bc it’s a tragic story - for her, her kids, her husband, her parents, siblings, etc. The essay is so well written that I would feel the same way if it was written by someone with no public profile.

It reminds me of the first time I read an excerpt from When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanthini. It was an incredible book and Tatiana’s writing moved me in the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:

https://people.com/caroline-kennedys-daughter-tatiana-schlossberg-reveals-terminal-cancer-diagnosis-11855177

"For my whole life, I have tried to be good, to be a good student and a good sister and a good daughter, and to protect my mother and never make her upset or angry," she added.

"Now I have added a new tragedy to her life, to our family’s life, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it," said the mom of two."

This part didn’t land well with me. It sounds extremely dysfunctional to spend your “whole life” trying to be the good girl, protecting your mom, and not make her angry. I get that to some extent, we’re all like that and it’s human nature, but for it to be such a big part of her, this was sad to me. To grow up in fear of “adding to the tragedy” is such a heavy burden.

This poor family.

Um, yeah, but it is also not a particularly original thing to say, or that interesting. I mean what she is going through is. HORRIFIC but her op ed is not that compelling.

J f c

I am sorry but it just is not. you can pretend it is, because she is dying and hope that this sentiment makes her feel better but its a big pile of BS.

If you have a terminal disease (which I do) you can see the vampires looming on the horizon and that's just what you are.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

I don't think this is really a fair comparison since JFK only had 3 grandchildren and RFK had 34.

Also, isn't it sort of early to say all 3 turned out well? Jack seems to be at a point where things could easily go south.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad. I'm sorry for her and her family's loss. I'm sorry for all the wasted young lives. Reports keep saying people are living longer. I question that, because I know of so many people who have died young, and/or developed cancer at a young age. Sigh

There have always been many people who have died young.

Not from cancer.

The reason that current trends have been covered in the media is that they are unusual.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/article-abstract/2839347?utm_campaign=articlePDF&utm_medium=articlePDFlink&utm_source=articlePDF&utm_content=jamainternmed.2025.4917

There is some evidence that it's really a story of early detection, not more actual cancer.

Also there are NOT more people dying young from cancer than before. Death rates from cancer have actually gone down because of improved treatments and therapies.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes, I think it's pretty commonly done when the body goes through trauma like childbirth. Also any time there's a major infection, major allergic reaction, etc.

I know a couple other young people who had similar stories--cancer discovered not because they had symptoms but during a routine blood test or a blood test related to some other procedure/event.

So why aren't we given blood tests for cancer as a regular part of our annual exams?

Her leukemia would have been caught from routine blood work, eventually.

Leukemia is caught by a routine CBC which she almost certainly had at the beginning of her pregnancy. This cancer must have flared up during the pregnancy.

I'm the PP whose parent and cousin had the same type of cancer. Acute leukemia is considered the fastest growing type of cancer. You can have a blood test that comes back totally normal and then have one that shows extreme danger within a matter of a couple months. My parent was having fairly routine blood tests related to something else and had a normal blood test only a couple months before being diagnosed.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad. I'm sorry for her and her family's loss. I'm sorry for all the wasted young lives. Reports keep saying people are living longer. I question that, because I know of so many people who have died young, and/or developed cancer at a young age. Sigh

There have always been many people who have died young.

Not from cancer.

The reason that current trends have been covered in the media is that they are unusual.

Cancer was much harder to detect not too long ago. I'm sure many of the conditions that young people used to die off were actually complications from cancer.

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Anonymous wrote:JFK’s kids and grandkids all turned out well. RFK’s are a very mixed bag.

Ethel Kennedy was insane!

Welk, she was married to a philandering Kennedy, had way too many children, and it drive her to drink.

Oh yeah, and her husband was shit to death on live television.

Try empathy instead of judgement, for a change.

Ethel Kennedy's husband was not shot to death on live television.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes, I think it's pretty commonly done when the body goes through trauma like childbirth. Also any time there's a major infection, major allergic reaction, etc.

I know a couple other young people who had similar stories--cancer discovered not because they had symptoms but during a routine blood test or a blood test related to some other procedure/event.

So why aren't we given blood tests for cancer as a regular part of our annual exams?

Blood cancer *would* show up in your yearly CBC, because it substantially alters white blood count from normal.

The majority of other cancers don’t show up in a routine blood test.

CA125 can be used to monitor for relapse in ovarian cancer survivors, but it is unreliable as a way universal screening test for various reasons.

Development of testing for cancers is one of the avenues of research that RFK Jr has slashed funding for.

By the way, we are all growing cancer cells in our bodies pretty much all the time in adulthood. For the great majority of us our immune systems attack these abnormal cells and we don’t develop a course of cancer illness. One of the greatest avenues of current research is the ways that mRNA technology can be harnessed to create vaccines that stimulate our bodies to destroy developing cancer cells. The evidence that it works already exists, but the technology and application needs more refining. This is another area of medical research that RFK Jr has slashed from the federal funding of biomedical research.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes, I think it's pretty commonly done when the body goes through trauma like childbirth. Also any time there's a major infection, major allergic reaction, etc.

I know a couple other young people who had similar stories--cancer discovered not because they had symptoms but during a routine blood test or a blood test related to some other procedure/event.

So why aren't we given blood tests for cancer as a regular part of our annual exams?

Her leukemia would have been caught from routine blood work, eventually.

Leukemia is caught by a routine CBC which she almost certainly had at the beginning of her pregnancy. This cancer must have flared up during the pregnancy.

Anonymous wrote:Family friend's 30yo dd who runs marathons was diagnosed with an aggressive breast cancer over the summer. Thankfully her prognosis is good - even though it IS aggressive they caught it early enough and the doctors are confident she can beat it. She runs marathons and is incredibly health-literate; she even said she's used to tracking biometrics with a wearable so she feels comfortable having those conversations with the doctors.

And now Tatiana Schlossberg, who is 35 and mentioned swimming a mile the day before giving birth. I mean, swimming a mile on a regular day is proof enough someone is health-conscious and doing it nine months pregnant is just bad ass.

Why are these young women getting so sick?

Running marathons doesn't prevent cancer.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes, I think it's pretty commonly done when the body goes through trauma like childbirth. Also any time there's a major infection, major allergic reaction, etc.

I know a couple other young people who had similar stories--cancer discovered not because they had symptoms but during a routine blood test or a blood test related to some other procedure/event.

So why aren't we given blood tests for cancer as a regular part of our annual exams?

Her leukemia would have been caught from routine blood work, eventually.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused about her diagnosis...she said she had no symptoms. is it standard to have blood tests and check white cell counts after having a baby? I don't remember that.

Yes, I think it's pretty commonly done when the body goes through trauma like childbirth. Also any time there's a major infection, major allergic reaction, etc.

I know a couple other young people who had similar stories--cancer discovered not because they had symptoms but during a routine blood test or a blood test related to some other procedure/event.

So why aren't we given blood tests for cancer as a regular part of our annual exams?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So sad. I'm sorry for her and her family's loss. I'm sorry for all the wasted young lives. Reports keep saying people are living longer. I question that, because I know of so many people who have died young, and/or developed cancer at a young age. Sigh

There have always been many people who have died young.

Not from cancer.

The reason that current trends have been covered in the media is that they are unusual.