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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

It depends on the kids birthday as it’s no longer 16, but 16.5 and it assumes you can provide a car and they get parking at Einstein. Proving a strong course offering makes Einstein a better school. There are only limited spots in the magnets so not all kids get in. Mcps should provide transportation, not the parents if the expectation is to go to MC. A car is what $2-3k in insurance, plus gas and parking on top of the car. That could easily be $20-30k just to take 1-2 classes at MC. You are better off paying privately for classes but MCPS will not accept them.

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Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

The regional model didn’t set a STEM program at Einstein, did it? Why Einstein will necessarily get higher level offering in the future? Previously STEM-strong kids in Einstein can choose Wheaton engineering or Blair SMCS, and now they can only choose Blair SMCS, so I can understand why that MVC parent was so irritated.

However, Blair SMCS will be less competitive in the future, so hopefully the STEM-strong kids in region 1 will have an easier leeway in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

Again, if your school has it, why shouldn't all schools? And, why would you take AB and BC?

Because there isn't enough demand at all schools and it would be incredibly shortsighted and wasteful to allocate resources like that in such a way. What's so hard to understand?

Or maybe the principal prefers kids to take an easier sequence so kids get better grades to make the school look better

Sure. It's a conspiracy with the principal. Do you hear yourself? The average student doesn't need to take this level of mathematics. It's just not necessary and the demand isn't there. As I've seen written elsewhere, do all schools allocate the same resources for emerging English learners or ESOL? No, no, they don't. I wonder why that is?

Anonymous wrote:You parents flipping out about MVC are nuts. I'm not delighted about eliminating the DCC but it is what it is. There will still be choice options for your child to go to a STEM magnet and enhancing the science offerings at Einstein could well lead to MVC being offered in future years if there are class fulls of students on that track. That said, your kids must be young because you don't have to drive them to MC. By the time they are taking it, they can drive themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

What does this have to do with saving VAPA? How did we get here?

There are two issues with Einstein. One is saving VAPA which is at risk of cuts as with reduced students, comes reduced staff, so what will be cut in terms of electives and courses given the staffing decreases. And, moving some programs to Northwood. The second issue is the limited academic, especially for stem. Without access to Wheaton and Blair, students will go without classes they need for graduation, especially those who MCPS accelerated in MS and will not have enough electives to make them competitive for college and fulfill their interests. Einstein and other schools should get equal course offerings if MCPS is doing this for equity.

No. The second issue you cite is not really an issue.. Many of us have STEM kids in IB classes and in AP calc and stats. They even go to STEM colleges. This is not correct.

No, it’s not her and stop naming people when you don’t know. Why do you have to be so nasty. It’s pretty horrible you keep doing this. Why would you? My kids are on this track and it’s an issue. I know at least a few families worked it out with by going to other schools. Unlike that family I cannot drive them as I work.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

Again, if your school has it, why shouldn't all schools? And, why would you take AB and BC?

We are not disagreeing with you about that, we are just telling you to freaking shut up about it already. Are you proud of being one of the most notorious posters in the history of this forum? Do you think that saying this stuff over and over again does anyone any good (it doesn't)?

Also, I am in the Einstein cluster as well. And Calc AB followed by Calc BC is a perfectly normal pathway, albeit one generally for kids who need to take calc slow. Yes, it sucks and is unfair that your smart kid has to be on a slowed down math track to finish high school (if you're unwilling to have them take something at MC instead.) But it does not mean they will not have enough math to graduate. And it is no excuse for posting about this as often as you do and constantly derailing posts to focus on this one particular issue. Please stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

What does this have to do with saving VAPA? How did we get here?

There are two issues with Einstein. One is saving VAPA which is at risk of cuts as with reduced students, comes reduced staff, so what will be cut in terms of electives and courses given the staffing decreases. And, moving some programs to Northwood. The second issue is the limited academic, especially for stem. Without access to Wheaton and Blair, students will go without classes they need for graduation, especially those who MCPS accelerated in MS and will not have enough electives to make them competitive for college and fulfill their interests. Einstein and other schools should get equal course offerings if MCPS is doing this for equity.

No. The second issue you cite is not really an issue.. Many of us have STEM kids in IB classes and in AP calc and stats. They even go to STEM colleges. This is not correct.

No, it’s not her and stop naming people when you don’t know. Why do you have to be so nasty. It’s pretty horrible you keep doing this. Why would you? My kids are on this track and it’s an issue. I know at least a few families worked it out with by going to other schools. Unlike that family I cannot drive them as I work.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

What does this have to do with saving VAPA? How did we get here?

There are two issues with Einstein. One is saving VAPA which is at risk of cuts as with reduced students, comes reduced staff, so what will be cut in terms of electives and courses given the staffing decreases. And, moving some programs to Northwood. The second issue is the limited academic, especially for stem. Without access to Wheaton and Blair, students will go without classes they need for graduation, especially those who MCPS accelerated in MS and will not have enough electives to make them competitive for college and fulfill their interests. Einstein and other schools should get equal course offerings if MCPS is doing this for equity.

No. The second issue you cite is not really an issue.. Many of us have STEM kids in IB classes and in AP calc and stats. They even go to STEM colleges. This is not correct.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

What does this have to do with saving VAPA? How did we get here?

Maybe a VAPA kid can write a musical about MVC.

Anonymous wrote:Northwood is a better performing arts program and that’s why they are getting the criteria program. Einstein has a better visual arts program. Both schools will keep local programs too. I don’t know why this is so complicated for Einstein parents except they are have prejudice against other schools which makes no sense because Einstein is no blue ribbon school either.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

What does this have to do with saving VAPA? How did we get here?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not the MVC poster but the point Iran's MVc. The point is MCPS investing enough in ALL the schools and being able to offer rigorous courses to kids who want and need them so they don't need to go to a "good school". They should be able to go to their home school and get and equivalent educational opportunity anywhere in the county!

I do not disagree that it's a good point. But the frequency with which that poster brings it up (and her deceptive language claiming that kids can't meet the math graduation requirements at Einstein, which can actively confuse people who don't know who she is and what she's really saying, as if taking Calc AB and/or AP Stats is somehow impossible rather than just not ideal and, yes, not equitable) is incredibly frustrating.

You don't need to take AB, and you are still missing a year of math. How can you not understand the math courses? Kid will take Calc BC and Statistics but that still leaves a year of math missing.

Even if you take Algebra 1 in 6th (which is 3 years early and not anything you should expect the system to bend over backwards to accommodate), you can still take Pre-calc and then Calc AB + Calc BC + AP Stats in high school and have enough math to graduate and look perfectly fine on competitive college applications (where they do not expect kids from schools without MVC to take MVC.) No, it's not fair that kids in richer schools have other options, but it works. Complaining about it to us for the 10 millionth time will not help you or anyone, and your inflammatory framing is actively confusing people. It's not okay to keep saying your kid won't be able to graduate when you mean "my kid will have to take a set of classes that aren't my top preference."

.Enough already. If you cannot bring yourself to stop this, please just step away from DCUM for awhile. If you really care about this, take your advocacy somewhere it could actually make a difference, like the Board of Ed or the MCPS math department. (But using the "my kid won't be able to graduate because Einstein doesn't have enough math" language won't help you there either. Just talk about how it's not fair/equitable.)

Again, if your school has it, why shouldn't all schools? And, why would you take AB and BC?

Because there isn't enough demand at all schools and it would be incredibly shortsighted and wasteful to allocate resources like that in such a way. What's so hard to understand?

Or maybe the principal prefers kids to take an easier sequence so kids get better grades to make the school look better

Sure. It's a conspiracy with the principal. Do you hear yourself? The average student doesn't need to take this level of mathematics. It's just not necessary and the demand isn't there. As I've seen written elsewhere, do all schools allocate the same resources for emerging English learners or ESOL? No, no, they don't. I wonder why that is?

So, Mcps should revive it from all schools. There is a demand and need.