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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

So, it’s negligence, not an accident.

It's negligence if any of the parties involved were texting or looking at their phone in that moment.

We don't know what happened. Let this child rest in peace, let the family grieve, and stop using him as your talking points. This was truly tragic. Either way, regardless of the how and why, a child passed away and instead of playing the blame game, find a way to support his family.

Excuse me?

There is only one person on here using this tragedy to further their talking points and play the blame game. It is not me.


In this instance, there is no indication that anyone involved was behaving recklessly or negligent.

It’s very much you too.

Anonymous wrote:I live just a few blocks from where the boy was killed. I just drove down University Boulevard and see that there is a giant speed camera now near there and the crosswalk looks to have been repainted.

I’m sorry this thread has devolved into such ridiculous arguments over status of neighborhoods. To answer a poster from above, the Kensington ZIP Code does extend almost all the way to the mall. It is then Wheaton and pedestrian safety on those streets near there is also a concern in this neighborhood.

After seeing this post, I decided to drive by the intersection while I was out today. As I was driving up the hill on University, I saw the bright white crosswalk at St. Paul, and then the huge speed camera in the median a little further up. Right as I passed the camera, a kid darted out of the bushes and ran across University right in front of my car. If I had been going the speed limit (I was only going 15 mph), I could have very easily hit him.

We have to emphasize and emphasize again the message not to jaywalk.

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Anonymous wrote:One side note to this very sad story. Apparently, the county attached a flag holder to the crosswalk sign. The pedestrian is supposed pick up a flag and wave it as he crosses the street. (Presumably the pedestrian drops the flag off on the other side of the street.)

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-killed-crossing-university-boulevard-in-kensington/3992208/

This strikes me as a very third-world solution. But it might be useful if pedestrians were aware of it. I have never seen this before.

This is the most idiotic take from this board in years and knowing DCUM that's saying a lot. Suggesting pedestrians waive a flag as they cross the street is a laughable "solution" for protecting them from dangerous operators of two ton murder machines. THEY aren't surrounded by two tons of steel. Heaven forbid we require operators of said two ton murder machines actually operate them safely around vulnerable road users.

You are a revolting pile of human waste.

Using language like this makes you sound like a fringe weirdo and does nothing to bring people over to your side. It’s unproductive. If you don’t care about winning people over with your arguments, why even bother arguing?

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

So, it’s negligence, not an accident.

It's negligence if any of the parties involved were texting or looking at their phone in that moment.

We don't know what happened. Let this child rest in peace, let the family grieve, and stop using him as your talking points. This was truly tragic. Either way, regardless of the how and why, a child passed away and instead of playing the blame game, find a way to support his family.

Excuse me?

There is only one person on here using this tragedy to further their talking points and play the blame game. It is not me.


In this instance, there is no indication that anyone involved was behaving recklessly or negligent.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

So, it’s negligence, not an accident.

It's negligence if any of the parties involved were texting or looking at their phone in that moment.

We don't know what happened. Let this child rest in peace, let the family grieve, and stop using him as your talking points. This was truly tragic. Either way, regardless of the how and why, a child passed away and instead of playing the blame game, find a way to support his family.

+1 I have a loved one who was once involved in a fatal accident and the online speculation was pretty cruel and hurtful. People need to learn to stfu sometimes.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

So, it’s negligence, not an accident.

Get a dictionary, as you struggle with the definitions of common words. Negligence is often a cause of accidents.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

So, it’s negligence, not an accident.

It's negligence if any of the parties involved were texting or looking at their phone in that moment.

We don't know what happened. Let this child rest in peace, let the family grieve, and stop using him as your talking points. This was truly tragic. Either way, regardless of the how and why, a child passed away and instead of playing the blame game, find a way to support his family.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

So, it’s negligence, not an accident.

It's negligence if any of the parties involved were texting or looking at their phone in that moment.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

"Just asking questions"?

meanwhile, you continue to imply that this person was texting while driving without any evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

So, it’s negligence, not an accident.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

Yes, that's an example of an accident caused by negligence. A textbook example, really.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Your making up non-standard definitions


accident: an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accident

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

Woah now. The driver in this instance stopped after the accident, called 911, and waited for the ambulance. Don't accuse her of doing something there is no indication that she did. You're a horrible human being for doing that

Especially because no one has accused the teen of doing it.

It wasn’t meant to refer to any specific crash. Just asking if one would consider that circumstance an accident since it wasn’t intentional.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

These word games re: crash and accidents are stupid and annoying. Some accidents can't be prevented, and it doesn't matter what steps the government takes. Preventing people from doing things they didn't intend to do is not a question of political will.

Yes, that’s what I said. Accidents can’t be prevented.

PP said speed could have been a factor. Preventable.
PP said it could have been a blind spot. Preventable.
PP said it could have been dark. Preventable.

We don't know. There are lots of blind and dangerous spots in this neighborhood. Its always been neglected.

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Anonymous wrote:The car may not have been speeding and missed them as there are lots of blind spots, dark. It could have just been a tragic accident.

This was a crash. An accident implies it couldn’t have been prevented. Vehicle speed, blind spots, and inadequate lighting are all things that could have been mitigated making this a preventable death.

An accident implies it wasn't intentional, not that it couldn't have been prevented. The accident may have been caused by reckless behavior.

So someone texting while driving accidentally kills someone because they didn’t intentionally do it?

The standard language is crash. https://www.roadpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/RP_Crash_not_Accident_Briefing_Sheet.pdf

This is some goofy ass propaganda.

They pretend all accidents are preventable because that's how they squeeze more money out of the government. If the admitted the obvious, that we can't prevent all accidents, then their funding would dry up. Of course, in no other context in life would anyone even suggest that it's possible to end collisions between people.