Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying that these are bad schools. They're not. They're basically on the level of the better state flagships, which are also very good in many cases and great in others. So I'm left scratching my head over why families are picking them, and it can only come down to snobbery. Right? What am I missing?

But snobbery for what? If your kid goes to UVA, it's just as well respected and more so than virtually all of the schools on this list and for only half the price or less. People will argue that Wash U or Emory are "better" but their academic reputations aren't better and in fact UVA is ahead of both of them in its "peer assessment" score. At most, one can plausibly claim they're a "little" better but no so much as to justify the price.

The claim here that "you're jealous that you can't afford them" or the flagships are for poor kids is laughable. UVA is full of rich kids -- in fact, that's one of the most common knocks against it.

It can only be snobbery, but it's misplaced because the schools listed don't have real snob appeal.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

The majority of UVA students could get into Emory. No doubt about it. Most instate students don’t even think about Emory though because with UVA available going to Emory makes no sense.

They could not, especially the instate students. The instate students at UVa hover around the 25th percentile which is a 1410. Emory's 25th is a 1500.

Incorrect. Last year, Emory’s 25th was 1470. This year it’s 1480.

The 1480 is last year, it was 1460 2 years ago. This year class of 2029 its 1500. Regardless UVA is test optional and their 25th is still very low.

Anonymous wrote:People who choose BU or Wake tend not to be prestige-mongers. They’re people looking for a specific type of college experience. BU for kids who want to be completely immersed in city life and Wake for the kids who want a well-rounded package with great academics and big time sports.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

The majority of UVA students could get into Emory. No doubt about it. Most instate students don’t even think about Emory though because with UVA available going to Emory makes no sense.

They could not, especially the instate students. The instate students at UVa hover around the 25th percentile which is a 1410. Emory's 25th is a 1500.

Incorrect. Last year, Emory’s 25th was 1470. This year it’s 1480.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying that these are bad schools. They're not. They're basically on the level of the better state flagships, which are also very good in many cases and great in others. So I'm left scratching my head over why families are picking them, and it can only come down to snobbery. Right? What am I missing?

But snobbery for what? If your kid goes to UVA, it's just as well respected and more so than virtually all of the schools on this list and for only half the price or less. People will argue that Wash U or Emory are "better" but their academic reputations aren't better and in fact UVA is ahead of both of them in its "peer assessment" score. At most, one can plausibly claim they're a "little" better but no so much as to justify the price.

The claim here that "you're jealous that you can't afford them" or the flagships are for poor kids is laughable. UVA is full of rich kids -- in fact, that's one of the most common knocks against it.

It can only be snobbery, but it's misplaced because the schools listed don't have real snob appeal.

Emory and UVa both have a 4.2 peer assessment score, stop lying. Emory is better overall because Emory wins cross admits according to parchment and its simply harder to get into. T25 privates are better than T25 publics but at the end of the day, Uva is still T25.

Please stop.

Emory is a perfectly respectable but that same Parchment site puts
Wash U ahead of Emory 75::25
USC ahead of Emory 64::36
NYU ahead of Emory 82::18

The cross admit vs UVA and Tufts do not have enough info to be useful. That is why the numbers are in black instead of red and green

The only school on that list Emory beats out is Northeastern 69::31.

Emory is not Vanderbilt.
While there is no direct comparison between Emory and UVA, UVA is selected over NYU 61::39

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

The majority of UVA students could get into Emory. No doubt about it. Most instate students don’t even think about Emory though because with UVA available going to Emory makes no sense.

They could not, especially the instate students. The instate students at UVa hover around the 25th percentile which is a 1410. Emory's 25th is a 1500.

Incorrect. Last year, Emory’s 25th was 1470. This year it’s 1480.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying that these are bad schools. They're not. They're basically on the level of the better state flagships, which are also very good in many cases and great in others. So I'm left scratching my head over why families are picking them, and it can only come down to snobbery. Right? What am I missing?

But snobbery for what? If your kid goes to UVA, it's just as well respected and more so than virtually all of the schools on this list and for only half the price or less. People will argue that Wash U or Emory are "better" but their academic reputations aren't better and in fact UVA is ahead of both of them in its "peer assessment" score. At most, one can plausibly claim they're a "little" better but no so much as to justify the price.

The claim here that "you're jealous that you can't afford them" or the flagships are for poor kids is laughable. UVA is full of rich kids -- in fact, that's one of the most common knocks against it.

It can only be snobbery, but it's misplaced because the schools listed don't have real snob appeal.

Emory and UVa both have a 4.2 peer assessment score, stop lying. Emory is better overall because Emory wins cross admits according to parchment and its simply harder to get into. T25 privates are better than T25 publics but at the end of the day, Uva is still T25.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is “harder to get into” relevant regarding quality of education?

There's hundreds of quality schools, we only care about the exclusive ones. We suddenly play facetious when it comes to Emory's (or schools like it) selectivity. Its great your DC can get an equal or near equal education at Uva, Wake, William and Mary etc. Your child still couldn't get into Emory or WashU and you know that matters or you wouldn't be so bitter about it.

The majority of UVA students could get into Emory. No doubt about it. Most instate students don’t even think about Emory though because with UVA available going to Emory makes no sense.

They could not, especially the instate students. The instate students at UVa hover around the 25th percentile which is a 1410. Emory's 25th is a 1500.

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Anonymous wrote:Poor OP, so insecure and miserable that they need to go online picking fights with people and pretending to be Ivies or bust.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

Not Ivy or bust at all. Just saying that private school parents who can’t get their kids into Ivies tell themselves that these schools are great just because they’re private and expensive — but they’re not great. At all. Many state flagships are better, certainly the ones around here.

Why can’t you just worry about your own kids? You are insufferable. Everyone isn’t looking to compete with your kid and many choose based on fit, not the “perceived prestige” you are obsessed with.

You really need help.

+1. Plenty of public school parents sending their kids to the supposedly Ivy-reject-private-school-parent-cope schools OP disdains. I know because my kid (who had no interest in the Ivies and did not apply) is at one of those schools and their roommate attended public school.

I love the “my kid had no interest in the Ivies” posters—what they really mean is that they knew the kid wouldn’t get in. There is not a kid enrolled in any of the schools on my list who wouldn’t be in an Ivy League school if they could get in.

Really? Mine didn’t apply to a single Ivy yet got into MIT. She didn’t vibe with the obsession at her school and then didn’t really love any of them. She didn’t attend MIT in the end either and chose CalTech. In the end location won.

So refreshing that she did not prioritize prestige.

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Anonymous wrote:Poor OP, so insecure and miserable that they need to go online picking fights with people and pretending to be Ivies or bust.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

Not Ivy or bust at all. Just saying that private school parents who can’t get their kids into Ivies tell themselves that these schools are great just because they’re private and expensive — but they’re not great. At all. Many state flagships are better, certainly the ones around here.

Why can’t you just worry about your own kids? You are insufferable. Everyone isn’t looking to compete with your kid and many choose based on fit, not the “perceived prestige” you are obsessed with.

You really need help.

+1. Plenty of public school parents sending their kids to the supposedly Ivy-reject-private-school-parent-cope schools OP disdains. I know because my kid (who had no interest in the Ivies and did not apply) is at one of those schools and their roommate attended public school.

I love the “my kid had no interest in the Ivies” posters—what they really mean is that they knew the kid wouldn’t get in. There is not a kid enrolled in any of the schools on my list who wouldn’t be in an Ivy League school if they could get in.

Really? Mine didn’t apply to a single Ivy yet got into MIT. She didn’t vibe with the obsession at her school and then didn’t really love any of them. She didn’t attend MIT in the end either and chose CalTech. In the end location won.

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the replies, just came here to say why so judgmental OP?