Anonymous wrote:I'm with OP. I have a sibling who brings out a screen for her kids whenever we go to a restaurant and they make any fuss whatsoever. I have had to ask sibling to take out the screens when we go out with them, as I don't want my kids thinking it's normal/appropriate. Sibling's kids are several years younger than mine and are used to daily screen-time for hours on end. It's ridiculous. And sibling just says "this is the only way I can talk" at a restaurant. As if my kids started off knowing how to behave at a restaurant at age 1?! No, I had to teach them what to do, and now they are capable of ordering for themselves and entertaining themselves with small toys/coloring (which I bring with me). We had many meals where we left immediately after scarfing down our food. We had many times when one parent had to walk the kid outside the restaurant because they couldn't sit still. In some situations, I even resorted to showing my kid pictures of their family on my phone to entertain them. So yea, I judge parents who turn on a tv show at restaurants for all to hear because they can't or don't want to parent appropriately.

(And I'm not anti-screens. My kids love movie nights and get free rein on road trips/airplanes.)

Anonymous wrote:I'm with OP. I have a sibling who brings out a screen for her kids whenever we go to a restaurant and they make any fuss whatsoever. I have had to ask sibling to take out the screens when we go out with them, as I don't want my kids thinking it's normal/appropriate. Sibling's kids are several years younger than mine and are used to daily screen-time for hours on end. It's ridiculous. And sibling just says "this is the only way I can talk" at a restaurant. As if my kids started off knowing how to behave at a restaurant at age 1?! No, I had to teach them what to do, and now they are capable of ordering for themselves and entertaining themselves with small toys/coloring (which I bring with me). We had many meals where we left immediately after scarfing down our food. We had many times when one parent had to walk the kid outside the restaurant because they couldn't sit still. In some situations, I even resorted to showing my kid pictures of their family on my phone to entertain them. So yea, I judge parents who turn on a tv show at restaurants for all to hear because they can't or don't want to parent appropriately.

(And I'm not anti-screens. My kids love movie nights and get free reign on road trips/airplanes.)

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I’m with op. Maybe you don’t get a quiet lunch/shopping trip/stroller walk, but all that screen time at an early age is really bad for developing brains.

But what's great for kids is judgy losers that give their parents the stink eye

Sorry it hits a nerve. Nobody is perfect, I know I’m not either, but this is a very clear place where you can make a choice that can affect your child’s brain development, attention span, ability to self regulate emotions.

Girl I hate screens for kids. My kid's behavior vastly improved when we took away her tablet. You are preaching to the choir. But I don't think giving a random parent the stink eye for giving their kid a phone for 20 minutes is okay either, I think it's really rude and unhelpful behavior (and the parent doesn't notice but look, you're still stewing about it, which can't be healthy)

Wrong. We need to start judging these parents and make it socially unacceptable in our culture to give these kids screens. Hold each other to higher standards

I agree. It's so strange that we know screen time is bad, but try to defend it. Should I judge parents giving Mountain Dew in bottles? Yes. I hate to say it, but screen time is literally the same.

Lol

Did you ever let your kids watch TV?

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I’m with op. Maybe you don’t get a quiet lunch/shopping trip/stroller walk, but all that screen time at an early age is really bad for developing brains.

But what's great for kids is judgy losers that give their parents the stink eye

Sorry it hits a nerve. Nobody is perfect, I know I’m not either, but this is a very clear place where you can make a choice that can affect your child’s brain development, attention span, ability to self regulate emotions.

Girl I hate screens for kids. My kid's behavior vastly improved when we took away her tablet. You are preaching to the choir. But I don't think giving a random parent the stink eye for giving their kid a phone for 20 minutes is okay either, I think it's really rude and unhelpful behavior (and the parent doesn't notice but look, you're still stewing about it, which can't be healthy)

Wrong. We need to start judging these parents and make it socially unacceptable in our culture to give these kids screens. Hold each other to higher standards

I agree. It's so strange that we know screen time is bad, but try to defend it. Should I judge parents giving Mountain Dew in bottles? Yes. I hate to say it, but screen time is literally the same.

Oh my... silly.

And, yet here you are on screens. Should we judge you for being on screens?

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I’m with op. Maybe you don’t get a quiet lunch/shopping trip/stroller walk, but all that screen time at an early age is really bad for developing brains.

But what's great for kids is judgy losers that give their parents the stink eye

Sorry it hits a nerve. Nobody is perfect, I know I’m not either, but this is a very clear place where you can make a choice that can affect your child’s brain development, attention span, ability to self regulate emotions.

Girl I hate screens for kids. My kid's behavior vastly improved when we took away her tablet. You are preaching to the choir. But I don't think giving a random parent the stink eye for giving their kid a phone for 20 minutes is okay either, I think it's really rude and unhelpful behavior (and the parent doesn't notice but look, you're still stewing about it, which can't be healthy)

Wrong. We need to start judging these parents and make it socially unacceptable in our culture to give these kids screens. Hold each other to higher standards

I agree. It's so strange that we know screen time is bad, but try to defend it. Should I judge parents giving Mountain Dew in bottles? Yes. I hate to say it, but screen time is literally the same.

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Anonymous wrote:My brilliant SIL taught me about keeping a ziploc bag of crayons, coloring books, sticker books and a thomas the tank engine catalog for my toddler when we went to restaurants.
Always got compliments on how well behaved they were.
But no, it as the ziploc bag they needed to compliment.

Ha. We called them “sugar toys” - little dump trucks and the like that we would bring out at the table while waiting for the food. Open the sugar packets and have at it!

Rude, wasteful and gross. Who does that?

You’re a riot.

Answer - many creative, resourceful people in the good old days before toddlers (like yours, obviously) became screen zombies!

No.

-Someone who worked in restaurants where a holes like you let your kids make a mess. (And now I have a DCUM prestigious job after going to an HYP and can smell this kind of entitlement a mile away during the hiring process.)

+1 yeah when my kid starts playing with salt/pepper/sugar we give her a screen to play the same "educational" games she plays at school

Hilarious to think the only two options are "let your kids make a giant mess" and "put them in front of a screen."

OP I'm with you, I also judge.

You're misreading

When DD starts playin with salt/sugar/pepper and won't stop it means we have already tried:
1. Having her simply sit with and converse with us
2. Color/play with toys
3. Take a walk outside and come back

It usually means she's a bit wired and dysregulated. We try to prevent this from happening, but it does, and in those situations (maybe once a month or every 2 months) I really dgaf if a stranger has a problem with her screen use. That's a them problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher and I agree. It’s not so much the screen time. It’s the fact that parents are spending so much less time talking and interacting with their kids. Even in the checked-out parent years in the 1980s, kids were talking and interacting with other kids. Some of the kids in this generation seem to just be learning to be human at age 5 when they come to school.

do your part and get screens out of your classroom

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I’m with op. Maybe you don’t get a quiet lunch/shopping trip/stroller walk, but all that screen time at an early age is really bad for developing brains.

But what's great for kids is judgy losers that give their parents the stink eye

Sorry it hits a nerve. Nobody is perfect, I know I’m not either, but this is a very clear place where you can make a choice that can affect your child’s brain development, attention span, ability to self regulate emotions.

Girl I hate screens for kids. My kid's behavior vastly improved when we took away her tablet. You are preaching to the choir. But I don't think giving a random parent the stink eye for giving their kid a phone for 20 minutes is okay either, I think it's really rude and unhelpful behavior (and the parent doesn't notice but look, you're still stewing about it, which can't be healthy)

Wrong. We need to start judging these parents and make it socially unacceptable in our culture to give these kids screens. Hold each other to higher standards

I agree. It's so strange that we know screen time is bad, but try to defend it. Should I judge parents giving Mountain Dew in bottles? Yes. I hate to say it, but screen time is literally the same.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. I’m with op. Maybe you don’t get a quiet lunch/shopping trip/stroller walk, but all that screen time at an early age is really bad for developing brains.

But what's great for kids is judgy losers that give their parents the stink eye

Sorry it hits a nerve. Nobody is perfect, I know I’m not either, but this is a very clear place where you can make a choice that can affect your child’s brain development, attention span, ability to self regulate emotions.

Girl I hate screens for kids. My kid's behavior vastly improved when we took away her tablet. You are preaching to the choir. But I don't think giving a random parent the stink eye for giving their kid a phone for 20 minutes is okay either, I think it's really rude and unhelpful behavior (and the parent doesn't notice but look, you're still stewing about it, which can't be healthy)

Wrong. We need to start judging these parents and make it socially unacceptable in our culture to give these kids screens. Hold each other to higher standards

Anonymous wrote:I am well aware of the exceptions:

We only had a few minutes to talk and needed out toddler to be quiet.
Our toddler has XYZ diagnosis.
And on and on.

But the research is there and the pendulum is swinging the other way. There are few legitimate reasons to prop up a screen in front of your 13 month old at cava while you lunch with your partner. It’s 20 minutes tops.

Knock it off, people.

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Anonymous wrote:My brilliant SIL taught me about keeping a ziploc bag of crayons, coloring books, sticker books and a thomas the tank engine catalog for my toddler when we went to restaurants.
Always got compliments on how well behaved they were.
But no, it as the ziploc bag they needed to compliment.

Ha. We called them “sugar toys” - little dump trucks and the like that we would bring out at the table while waiting for the food. Open the sugar packets and have at it!

Rude, wasteful and gross. Who does that?

You’re a riot.

Answer - many creative, resourceful people in the good old days before toddlers (like yours, obviously) became screen zombies!

No.

-Someone who worked in restaurants where a holes like you let your kids make a mess. (And now I have a DCUM prestigious job after going to an HYP and can smell this kind of entitlement a mile away during the hiring process.)

+1 yeah when my kid starts playing with salt/pepper/sugar we give her a screen to play the same "educational" games she plays at school

Hilarious to think the only two options are "let your kids make a giant mess" and "put them in front of a screen."

OP I'm with you, I also judge.

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Anonymous wrote:My brilliant SIL taught me about keeping a ziploc bag of crayons, coloring books, sticker books and a thomas the tank engine catalog for my toddler when we went to restaurants.
Always got compliments on how well behaved they were.
But no, it as the ziploc bag they needed to compliment.

Ha. We called them “sugar toys” - little dump trucks and the like that we would bring out at the table while waiting for the food. Open the sugar packets and have at it!

Rude, wasteful and gross. Who does that?

You’re a riot.

Answer - many creative, resourceful people in the good old days before toddlers (like yours, obviously) became screen zombies!

No.

-Someone who worked in restaurants where a holes like you let your kids make a mess. (And now I have a DCUM prestigious job after going to an HYP and can smell this kind of entitlement a mile away during the hiring process.)

+1 yeah when my kid starts playing with salt/pepper/sugar we give her a screen to play the same "educational" games she plays at school