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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Sexual harassment isn’t exactly rare. What woman alive hasn’t been sexually harassed? It’s not that much of a stretch to believe it happened and the smear campaign seems obvious.

So you are saying when Taylor found out she was SH she said well it’s happened to everyone so I’m not going to support you? That makes no sense.

SH is extremely common but not for women who have extreme power and are married to one of the most powerful men in the industry, from a newish director who has significantly less power than you.

And what woman who is SH deals with it by going full on mean girl, turning the cast against you, taking over the movie and banning you from the poster and premiere. Taylor saw through this.

Please. Baldoni knows what he did and wanted to come out ahead of it to acknowledge his different brain. That wouldn’t take into account who someone was married to, he has poor social skills no matter who he talks to.

This is word salad. But no matter, Blake has lost the public.

The public largely has moved on and could not care less. This is a fringe issue for a few obsessives.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Sexual harassment isn’t exactly rare. What woman alive hasn’t been sexually harassed? It’s not that much of a stretch to believe it happened and the smear campaign seems obvious.

So you are saying when Taylor found out she was SH she said well it’s happened to everyone so I’m not going to support you? That makes no sense.

SH is extremely common but not for women who have extreme power and are married to one of the most powerful men in the industry, from a newish director who has significantly less power than you.

And what woman who is SH deals with it by going full on mean girl, turning the cast against you, taking over the movie and banning you from the poster and premiere. Taylor saw through this.

Please. Baldoni knows what he did and wanted to come out ahead of it to acknowledge his different brain. That wouldn’t take into account who someone was married to, he has poor social skills no matter who he talks to.

This is word salad. But no matter, Blake has lost the public.

Anonymous wrote:Wayfarer got BTFO on the big motion to compel. They got the February 2025 cutoff and some limitations on no SH discrimination but Lively got basically everything else and Liman methodically pointed out lots of deficiencies in WF production and legal reasoning, in a well reasoned decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Sexual harassment isn’t exactly rare. What woman alive hasn’t been sexually harassed? It’s not that much of a stretch to believe it happened and the smear campaign seems obvious.

So you are saying when Taylor found out she was SH she said well it’s happened to everyone so I’m not going to support you? That makes no sense.

SH is extremely common but not for women who have extreme power and are married to one of the most powerful men in the industry, from a newish director who has significantly less power than you.

And what woman who is SH deals with it by going full on mean girl, turning the cast against you, taking over the movie and banning you from the poster and premiere. Taylor saw through this.

Please. Baldoni knows what he did and wanted to come out ahead of it to acknowledge his different brain. That wouldn’t take into account who someone was married to, he has poor social skills no matter who he talks to.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Sexual harassment isn’t exactly rare. What woman alive hasn’t been sexually harassed? It’s not that much of a stretch to believe it happened and the smear campaign seems obvious.

So you are saying when Taylor found out she was SH she said well it’s happened to everyone so I’m not going to support you? That makes no sense.

SH is extremely common but not for women who have extreme power and are married to one of the most powerful men in the industry, from a newish director who has significantly less power than you.

And what woman who is SH deals with it by going full on mean girl, turning the cast against you, taking over the movie and banning you from the poster and premiere. Taylor saw through this.

Please. Baldoni knows what he did and wanted to come out ahead of it to acknowledge his different brain. That wouldn’t take into account who someone was married to, he has poor social skills no matter who he talks to.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Sexual harassment isn’t exactly rare. What woman alive hasn’t been sexually harassed? It’s not that much of a stretch to believe it happened and the smear campaign seems obvious.

So you are saying when Taylor found out she was SH she said well it’s happened to everyone so I’m not going to support you? That makes no sense.

SH is extremely common but not for women who have extreme power and are married to one of the most powerful men in the industry, from a newish director who has significantly less power than you.

And what woman who is SH deals with it by going full on mean girl, turning the cast against you, taking over the movie and banning you from the poster and premiere. Taylor saw through this.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Sexual harassment isn’t exactly rare. What woman alive hasn’t been sexually harassed? It’s not that much of a stretch to believe it happened and the smear campaign seems obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

I don’t think it had anything to do with how the Internet was trending. This thing was messy from the very start and Taylor wanted to stay away from it.

Of course her attitude toward Blake has to do with whether she believes her. You just think it’s a coincidence that she ended the friendship around this time?

But really, it doesn’t matter. People love Taylor, and Taylor didn’t just let the friendship lapse. She very publicly ended it. It’s the breadcrumbs that she loves. Travis unfollowing Ryan. The public statement that she put out with just the twist of the knife that she didn’t even see the movie until months later and no acknowledgement that although she has no involvement she is proud of her friend.

Would have been very easy to do that. Not just not being seen with Blake, but excluding her from group parties that she used to be invited to.

Like I said, it truly doesn’t matter why. It’s interesting to me that the last outing with Taylor was a double date with Ryan and Blake. It could’ve just been that Travis opened her eyes to things that her other friends were trying to tell her for years, which is that Blake is problematic and he’s clued into what the rest of the world is seeing, that Ryan has turned into an ass. Maybe it has nothing to do with the lawsuit. The point is she’s publicly not supporting her and she has turned against her. People are going to see Blake as the problem and think Blake did something whether it was this lawsuit or something else. It’s a problem for Blake either way when she’s trying to save instagram followers, sell products, and star in movies.

The lawsuit was one thing, but now Blake and Ryan have created this whole other monster with how they’ve responded to bad press and backlash in the last year. It has shown their true colors and it’s costing them fans, even fancy probably didn’t care about this lawsuit. Ryan doing that weird thing where Deadpool fans flooded him with all the same poster they wanted to sign and the public seeing through it. Him being so cocky and making crude jokes on set that Robert Downey Jr. was like I’ve had enough and now they’re in a public feud.

Showing up to SNL 50 when they didn’t belong there and having 100 articles come out about how awkward it was. And possibly going to Taylor with such desperation after the superbowl snub they pushed her even further away.

At this point it’s mattering less and less what happened on that set and around the lawsuit. The lawsuit exposed cracks in the foundation and they are spinning out of control.

Wdym? People have told Taylor before IEWU to stay away from Blake??

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Taylor publicly supported Kesha during her lawsuit as well provided some legal funds and they weren't even best friends. Nice try though.

Huh? I’m saying Taylor knows Blake is a liar. I don’t think you are disagreeing.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

Taylor publicly supported Kesha during her lawsuit as well provided some legal funds and they weren't even best friends. Nice try though.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

I don’t think it had anything to do with how the Internet was trending. This thing was messy from the very start and Taylor wanted to stay away from it.

Of course her attitude toward Blake has to do with whether she believes her. You just think it’s a coincidence that she ended the friendship around this time?

But really, it doesn’t matter. People love Taylor, and Taylor didn’t just let the friendship lapse. She very publicly ended it. It’s the breadcrumbs that she loves. Travis unfollowing Ryan. The public statement that she put out with just the twist of the knife that she didn’t even see the movie until months later and no acknowledgement that although she has no involvement she is proud of her friend.

Would have been very easy to do that. Not just not being seen with Blake, but excluding her from group parties that she used to be invited to.

Like I said, it truly doesn’t matter why. It’s interesting to me that the last outing with Taylor was a double date with Ryan and Blake. It could’ve just been that Travis opened her eyes to things that her other friends were trying to tell her for years, which is that Blake is problematic and he’s clued into what the rest of the world is seeing, that Ryan has turned into an ass. Maybe it has nothing to do with the lawsuit. The point is she’s publicly not supporting her and she has turned against her. People are going to see Blake as the problem and think Blake did something whether it was this lawsuit or something else. It’s a problem for Blake either way when she’s trying to save instagram followers, sell products, and star in movies.

The lawsuit was one thing, but now Blake and Ryan have created this whole other monster with how they’ve responded to bad press and backlash in the last year. It has shown their true colors and it’s costing them fans, even fancy probably didn’t care about this lawsuit. Ryan doing that weird thing where Deadpool fans flooded him with all the same poster they wanted to sign and the public seeing through it. Him being so cocky and making crude jokes on set that Robert Downey Jr. was like I’ve had enough and now they’re in a public feud.

Showing up to SNL 50 when they didn’t belong there and having 100 articles come out about how awkward it was. And possibly going to Taylor with such desperation after the superbowl snub they pushed her even further away.

At this point it’s mattering less and less what happened on that set and around the lawsuit. The lawsuit exposed cracks in the foundation and they are spinning out of control.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor knows Blake’s lying and wants nothing to do with it. Sorry Blake fans.

Hmmm what is the psychology of Blake here? Why would she risk her BFF status with Taylor over a movie? Or did she not think through the possible consequences?

Blake was getting increasingly desperate.

She had not anticipated that Justin Baldoni would fight back and release his website about the case. The full context of Blake’s texts were exposed and they did not paint Taylor Swift in a flattering light. Blake basically told Justin that she could use Taylor to destroy him. Blake compared herself to Khaleese and Taylor as her dragon that she could manipulate.

While, the information on the website probably gave Taylor pause, I don’t think it would have been enough to end the relationship so definitively.

The final straw was Blake threatening Taylor. Blake was facing a big backlash and she wanted to be seen publicly with Taylor at the Superbowl to improve public perception. Taylor said no, and Blake threatened to release their texts unless she acquiesced. That was the turning point when Taylor began communicating with Blake through her lawyers. Photos of Blake and Taylor were scrubbed from Taylor’s instagram and Kelce publicly unfollowed Blake’s husband.

I generally agree with this. Swift has every right to be angry that her name was used in that way and that Lively and her lawyers threatened her (if that's true). I don't think a) Swift being angry at Lively means Swift doesn't believe Lively's allegations and b) that it matters at all whether she believes Lively. It's on Lively to prove those allegations, Swift wasn't on set and has no knowledge whether Baldoni and Heath SHed Lively and certainly no knowledge of whatever TAG and Wallace did (if they did anything).

And I just really doubt Swift would sit around reading Baldoni's website with his legal complaint. I guess she has people who monitor such things and report the gist? I imagine the online chatter about how it was received would be more important to Swift than the actual lawsuit info.

Come on, if she believed her friend was SH and retaliated against she would not be acting this way. Taylor is the queen of girls girls, whether it’s true or a perception, that’s how she is known so it definitely stands out that she has been silent from the beginning.

The shutting out of Blake happened well before the Superbowl. It’s just pretty clear Taylor doesn’t either buy it or thinks that Blake had enough problematic behavior on set and with Justin that this was going to get messy. She wanted to stay out of it from the beginning for a reason.

No one is saying Taylor sat and read the website. But you don’t think her name being in the website is going to get back to her instantly? Of course she has people monitoring this kind of thing and of course they told her. And of course she’d be pissed about it. She probably knows her friends and Blake use her for clout on occasion but to see it laid out so directly, actually implying that Taylor would be a threat if JB didn’t comply with Blake, is a whole other level.

PP - Yeah, what I'm saying is I agree she has people who monitor and report back on stuff like mentions of her name in the suit, or just generally "the internet is trending against Blake/for Baldoni." But I don't think it gets to the level of detail of "oh, Baldoni has all these texts contradicting X, Y, and Z from her complaint that rebut her harassment allegations." So I don't think her attitude is a reflection on whether she believes Lively or knows anything about how Lively acted on set.

You are delusional. No one, even Taylor Swift, has no opinion on a close friend who is alleging sexual harassment in a major case.