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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe most men would have the capacity to successfully manage a home and children full time. Heck, most women these days are struggling to do it, even when they want to. Hence the endless “how do you juggle two children” threads. And three children? Forget it. Any “real” job is easier.

Most parents who are doing it are winging it the best they can. Overall, we’re losing our ability to parent our own children. Americans are mostly more than happy to entrust complete strangers to do the job, in spite of the enormous risks.

Kudos to all the parents who are making the sacrifices to raise their own children. It’s the hardest job there is, but the preservation of a successful society depends on it.

What society the society of white Christian males sexually abusing kids and keeping women dumb and pregnant?

Never be a stay at home mother ever

Children do just fine with strong hard working mothers who work outside the home
Let the men stay home none of you Christian shits mentioned that

The US is about to set women back to the 1800 s no-woman should be staying home now

Anonymous wrote:Women belong in the home, that’s what you should tell them. While their kids are at daycare or wherever, yours are at home with their mother. This is the real feminism.

I’m so glad society is shifting and now so many more women are proud to be SAHMs (just look at the posters on this thread). I think we will soon see enrollment rates for girls drop at college because what’s the point of an education when staying at home become normalized as a career path, it’s the hardest job in the world after all.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a SAHW&M for over 20 years now. We hired everything out--cleaning, cooking, landscape, nanny, night nurse, private school. It's awesome. We fly semi-private to Aspen and Goozer and Cabo. If you can afford to stay at home, do it!!

Anonymous wrote:Unless you believe a woman WITHOUT children should be able to "choose" to not work for pay, your arguments about not working being a new form of feminism are BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, does anyone really enjoy working? Why do women act like the dream is to work and raise a family? I have a career but have done stay-at-home, FT work, PT work, WFH, etc as a mom. Preference would be to never work again. I just do it for the money. Can people really not find intellectual stimulation without a job??

Same. I would only add that I do it to have my own money - I needed a level of financial control to feel secure.

I never really understand this line of thinking. Why are you having children with a man with whom you already don’t feel secure with, or with whom you share control over finances? So no one should ever stay home? Or only women with trust funds should stay home? Because it’s not safe otherwise? If that’s the case, then only a small fraction of women would successfully stay home.

Just so you know, you could have a job and a man could still gamble or otherwise squander away every penny you have and that would be the end of it.

I’m genuinely curious what “security” looks like to you? Having your own bank account with money before baby? It’s still a marital asset, you know. So is every penny of his money, and it’s unlikely he wants to throw it all away unless he’s Fotis Dulos or something. Divorcing a SAHM doesn’t come cheap.

Not if you have your own accounts.

Not in my state. They’d be disclosed in discovery and become marital property.

That’s only if you’re divorcing. Which is not what I was responding to. I’d make him pay his gambling debts himself while married.

Cool. But then when all of his funds are gone after paying his debts, how are you paying to live? From your money, that’s how.

He’s still employed, obviously. He will be earning money continuously.

Anonymous wrote:Unless you believe a woman WITHOUT children should be able to "choose" to not work for pay, your arguments about not working being a new form of feminism are BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, does anyone really enjoy working? Why do women act like the dream is to work and raise a family? I have a career but have done stay-at-home, FT work, PT work, WFH, etc as a mom. Preference would be to never work again. I just do it for the money. Can people really not find intellectual stimulation without a job??

Same. I would only add that I do it to have my own money - I needed a level of financial control to feel secure.

I never really understand this line of thinking. Why are you having children with a man with whom you already don’t feel secure with, or with whom you share control over finances? So no one should ever stay home? Or only women with trust funds should stay home? Because it’s not safe otherwise? If that’s the case, then only a small fraction of women would successfully stay home.

Just so you know, you could have a job and a man could still gamble or otherwise squander away every penny you have and that would be the end of it.

I’m genuinely curious what “security” looks like to you? Having your own bank account with money before baby? It’s still a marital asset, you know. So is every penny of his money, and it’s unlikely he wants to throw it all away unless he’s Fotis Dulos or something. Divorcing a SAHM doesn’t come cheap.

Not if you have your own accounts.

Not in my state. They’d be disclosed in discovery and become marital property.

That’s only if you’re divorcing. Which is not what I was responding to. I’d make him pay his gambling debts himself while married.

Cool. But then when all of his funds are gone after paying his debts, how are you paying to live? From your money, that’s how.

Anonymous wrote:If she worked, people would judge her for that too. As a mom, you have to develop super thick skin. There is constant judgement.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, does anyone really enjoy working? Why do women act like the dream is to work and raise a family? I have a career but have done stay-at-home, FT work, PT work, WFH, etc as a mom. Preference would be to never work again. I just do it for the money. Can people really not find intellectual stimulation without a job??

Same. I would only add that I do it to have my own money - I needed a level of financial control to feel secure.

I never really understand this line of thinking. Why are you having children with a man with whom you already don’t feel secure with, or with whom you share control over finances? So no one should ever stay home? Or only women with trust funds should stay home? Because it’s not safe otherwise? If that’s the case, then only a small fraction of women would successfully stay home.

Just so you know, you could have a job and a man could still gamble or otherwise squander away every penny you have and that would be the end of it.

I’m genuinely curious what “security” looks like to you? Having your own bank account with money before baby? It’s still a marital asset, you know. So is every penny of his money, and it’s unlikely he wants to throw it all away unless he’s Fotis Dulos or something. Divorcing a SAHM doesn’t come cheap.

Not if you have your own accounts.

Not in my state. They’d be disclosed in discovery and become marital property.

That’s only if you’re divorcing. Which is not what I was responding to. I’d make him pay his gambling debts himself while married.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe most men would have the capacity to successfully manage a home and children full time. Heck, most women these days are struggling to do it, even when they want to. Hence the endless “how do you juggle two children” threads. And three children? Forget it. Any “real” job is easier.

Most parents who are doing it are winging it the best they can. Overall, we’re losing our ability to parent our own children. Americans are mostly more than happy to entrust complete strangers to do the job, in spite of the enormous risks.

Kudos to all the parents who are making the sacrifices to raise their own children. It’s the hardest job there is, but the preservation of a successful society depends on it.