Anonymous wrote:You asked if she would come and she gave you the terms under which she can do it. She obviously cannot leave her minor child at home to go on vacation with you.
How badly do you want the extra help? That's your answer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't OP take care of her own kids on vacation? Does she even like her kids?
Seconding this. I have childcare for my kids when I'm working but on vacation? Are you guys incapable of handling your own kids?
The parents probably do this so they can actually have a “vacation” instead of watching kids all the time. Have you ever had a relaxing vacation with young kids?
However it seems kind of unfair to the nanny unless they pay her well and don’t expect her to be there 24/7.
I actually enjoy spending time with my children, call me crazy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP ghosted after she got enough to give the answer she wanted to give all along (no).
I am curious what OPs expectations are for the nanny on vacation and why she would assume the nanny wants to accompany her family to fancy dinners. The absolute last thing I want to do with my employer is go out for a fancy meal where I have to be “on”.
I'm here, just enjoying watching this thread dissolve as the DCUM crazies come out from the woodwork.
We have a good relationship with our nanny. I think she would be offended if we did not include her in ANY restaurant meals, hence my original post. I agree with other commenters who pointed out we don't need to invite her to everything, particularly fancier meals.
I never suggested she is required to work 24/7 during the trip. I'm aware of what's market for taking nannies on vacation and we offered terms consistent with that.
But folks are right, we actually hate our kids so we're going to drop them off at the fire station tomorrow morning and enjoy this trip solo. Thanks for the revelation!![]()
It sounds like your nanny had already considered the likelihood that you wouldn't want to pay for her daughter's meals when she suggested that she cover those expenses.
You are the one choosing to doubt whether that will be true. If you would prefer not to have to worry about it, just say so. Don't sit here being all smug about fire stations as though you didn't come here looking for validation to tell her no.
What does the handwringing about bringing a nanny on vacation have to do with the question of whether to allow the daughter to come given the context I provided?
I fully expect her to say she can’t come if she can’t bring her daughter. And that’s perfectly fine. We will live. This was a nice to have for us. As I said previously, this was an additional request not in her contract. The people getting hysterical over bringing a nanny on vacation are distracting from the topic of this thread.
The "handwringing" about taking the nanny on vacation is that you are clearly wealthy enough to have this "nice to have" vacation amenity but are doubting whether this person will actually pay for what she said she would pay for in your original post. What she proposed sounded reasonable to a lot of people - bring daughter, pay daughter's way - while what you are handwringing about is whether she will actually pay for her daughter's expenses. If you don't want your nanny distracted from your children, just say so. That's actually a reasonable position, unlike "I'm worried we might have to pay for the daughter's meals at the fancy places we like to eat" which was your actual original concern in your first post.
I think you are being smug now because you were expecting everyone to be as entitled as you, and shockingly, they're not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP ghosted after she got enough to give the answer she wanted to give all along (no).
I am curious what OPs expectations are for the nanny on vacation and why she would assume the nanny wants to accompany her family to fancy dinners. The absolute last thing I want to do with my employer is go out for a fancy meal where I have to be “on”.
I'm here, just enjoying watching this thread dissolve as the DCUM crazies come out from the woodwork.
We have a good relationship with our nanny. I think she would be offended if we did not include her in ANY restaurant meals, hence my original post. I agree with other commenters who pointed out we don't need to invite her to everything, particularly fancier meals.
I never suggested she is required to work 24/7 during the trip. I'm aware of what's market for taking nannies on vacation and we offered terms consistent with that.
But folks are right, we actually hate our kids so we're going to drop them off at the fire station tomorrow morning and enjoy this trip solo. Thanks for the revelation!![]()
It sounds like your nanny had already considered the likelihood that you wouldn't want to pay for her daughter's meals when she suggested that she cover those expenses.
You are the one choosing to doubt whether that will be true. If you would prefer not to have to worry about it, just say so. Don't sit here being all smug about fire stations as though you didn't come here looking for validation to tell her no.
What does the handwringing about bringing a nanny on vacation have to do with the question of whether to allow the daughter to come given the context I provided?
I fully expect her to say she can’t come if she can’t bring her daughter. And that’s perfectly fine. We will live. This was a nice to have for us. As I said previously, this was an additional request not in her contract. The people getting hysterical over bringing a nanny on vacation are distracting from the topic of this thread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP ghosted after she got enough to give the answer she wanted to give all along (no).
I am curious what OPs expectations are for the nanny on vacation and why she would assume the nanny wants to accompany her family to fancy dinners. The absolute last thing I want to do with my employer is go out for a fancy meal where I have to be “on”.
I'm here, just enjoying watching this thread dissolve as the DCUM crazies come out from the woodwork.
We have a good relationship with our nanny. I think she would be offended if we did not include her in ANY restaurant meals, hence my original post. I agree with other commenters who pointed out we don't need to invite her to everything, particularly fancier meals.
I never suggested she is required to work 24/7 during the trip. I'm aware of what's market for taking nannies on vacation and we offered terms consistent with that.
But folks are right, we actually hate our kids so we're going to drop them off at the fire station tomorrow morning and enjoy this trip solo. Thanks for the revelation!![]()
It sounds like your nanny had already considered the likelihood that you wouldn't want to pay for her daughter's meals when she suggested that she cover those expenses.
You are the one choosing to doubt whether that will be true. If you would prefer not to have to worry about it, just say so. Don't sit here being all smug about fire stations as though you didn't come here looking for validation to tell her no.
What does the handwringing about bringing a nanny on vacation have to do with the question of whether to allow the daughter to come given the context I provided?
I fully expect her to say she can’t come if she can’t bring her daughter. And that’s perfectly fine. We will live. This was a nice to have for us. As I said previously, this was an additional request not in her contract. The people getting hysterical over bringing a nanny on vacation are distracting from the topic of this thread.
I think it is so very out there to have a nanny with you on vacation, you don’t seem to understand how very privileged you seem. My DH is a partner at a large law firm, the vast majority of our friends are super successful, country club types. I don’t know a single person who has ever brought a nanny on vacation with them. Ever. I cannot fathom why you wouldn’t want to spend time with your kids on vacation. Are you Kim Kardashian? So the fact that you asked about doing that and then are worried about paying for a couple extra meals for a teenager? No wonder you are getting these responses.
You have the chance to do something very nice and kind for the woman who cares for your kids! It will be hugely beneficial for them with very downside to you! The teenager would otherwise probably be stuck sitting around at home while her dad works, when she could be on vacation, exploring a cool new place while her mom is working for you! Without her daughter, the nanny may not want to go out to eat or shopping or whatever on her own. What is she going to do with the downtime you have promised her? Sit around with your family and probably get roped into doing more job tasks? She already worked 9-5 but it’s 6:15 and little Susie needs a new diaper, guess who is probably going to be asked to change it?? You could be earning some major good will and just being good people for the low cost of a potentially covering a couple restaurant meals, but instead you are going to reject this very reasonable request so you can save a little bit of money. I bet you are Trump supporters.
Anonymous wrote:Are you going to be in a house? A hotel? Does this change logistics in terms of sleeping, transportation? Those are the considerations I would focus on versus an extra meal here and there.
Also, if you are staying at a resort, do you use the kids club versus taking your nanny normally? What are your children’s expectations for vacation? You have never stated their ages.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I asked my boss if I could bring my kid along on a business trip I wouldn’t have a job anymore. Actually, I just wouldn’t because that’s ridiculously inappropriate.
The nanny should have just declined.
Huh, I don’t travel for work but have friends who do and yes, they sometimes bring family members along on business trips.
This isn’t a business trip. Very different. I have gone on business trips with my spouse and brought the kids. Spouse worked day and was with us nights. Nanny is on 24-7.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I asked my boss if I could bring my kid along on a business trip I wouldn’t have a job anymore. Actually, I just wouldn’t because that’s ridiculously inappropriate.
The nanny should have just declined.
Huh, I don’t travel for work but have friends who do and yes, they sometimes bring family members along on business trips.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP ghosted after she got enough to give the answer she wanted to give all along (no).
I am curious what OPs expectations are for the nanny on vacation and why she would assume the nanny wants to accompany her family to fancy dinners. The absolute last thing I want to do with my employer is go out for a fancy meal where I have to be “on”.
I'm here, just enjoying watching this thread dissolve as the DCUM crazies come out from the woodwork.
We have a good relationship with our nanny. I think she would be offended if we did not include her in ANY restaurant meals, hence my original post. I agree with other commenters who pointed out we don't need to invite her to everything, particularly fancier meals.
I never suggested she is required to work 24/7 during the trip. I'm aware of what's market for taking nannies on vacation and we offered terms consistent with that.
But folks are right, we actually hate our kids so we're going to drop them off at the fire station tomorrow morning and enjoy this trip solo. Thanks for the revelation!![]()
It sounds like your nanny had already considered the likelihood that you wouldn't want to pay for her daughter's meals when she suggested that she cover those expenses.
You are the one choosing to doubt whether that will be true. If you would prefer not to have to worry about it, just say so. Don't sit here being all smug about fire stations as though you didn't come here looking for validation to tell her no.
What does the handwringing about bringing a nanny on vacation have to do with the question of whether to allow the daughter to come given the context I provided?
I fully expect her to say she can’t come if she can’t bring her daughter. And that’s perfectly fine. We will live. This was a nice to have for us. As I said previously, this was an additional request not in her contract. The people getting hysterical over bringing a nanny on vacation are distracting from the topic of this thread.
Anonymous wrote:If I asked my boss if I could bring my kid along on a business trip I wouldn’t have a job anymore. Actually, I just wouldn’t because that’s ridiculously inappropriate.
The nanny should have just declined.