Anonymous
08/02/2025 17:16
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
I don't understand this at all. You're saying 75% of 6th and 7th graders taking pre-algebra got BELOW a 420? That makes no sense since you only passed with a 400.
NP. The cutoff is based on state scores— not just APS. And it’s anyone who took the 8th grade SOL, readdress of when they took it and what math class they took that year.
You're totally making stuff up as scores for this past year haven't even been posted by Virginia yet. They've only posted 23-24. Math SOL standards changed in the interim so we don't know the current percentiles.
https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/apex/f?p=152:1:16522701869968:::::
I’m not making anything up. It’s all right here:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/k-12-standards-instruction/mathematics
See where it shows the upper quartile for each grade? For 2025.
That information doesn't even make sense. There are 7th graders taking the Algebra SOL, 8th Grade SOL and 7th grade SOL. Is that an average across all SOL tests? There's no distinction as to what SOL test is being given.
Do those taking Math 7, presumably the weakest math students in the grade, need an Intensified Pre-algebra option in 8th if they have an SOL score above 421 per this new law? That's crazy.
There needs to be more information and an actual plan. You can't discern anything from this jumble.
First of all, it’s not my fault it’s confusing. Blame VDOE. Second, I think those scores are based on everyone who took that SOL, regardless of what math class the child took and what grade they are in.
Anonymous
08/02/2025 09:56
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
I don't understand this at all. You're saying 75% of 6th and 7th graders taking pre-algebra got BELOW a 420? That makes no sense since you only passed with a 400.
NP. The cutoff is based on state scores— not just APS. And it’s anyone who took the 8th grade SOL, readdress of when they took it and what math class they took that year.
You're totally making stuff up as scores for this past year haven't even been posted by Virginia yet. They've only posted 23-24. Math SOL standards changed in the interim so we don't know the current percentiles.
https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/apex/f?p=152:1:16522701869968:::::
I’m not making anything up. It’s all right here:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/k-12-standards-instruction/mathematics
See where it shows the upper quartile for each grade? For 2025.
That information doesn't even make sense. There are 7th graders taking the Algebra SOL, 8th Grade SOL and 7th grade SOL. Is that an average across all SOL tests? There's no distinction as to what SOL test is being given.
Do those taking Math 7, presumably the weakest math students in the grade, need an Intensified Pre-algebra option in 8th if they have an SOL score above 421 per this new law? That's crazy.
There needs to be more information and an actual plan. You can't discern anything from this jumble.
Anonymous
08/02/2025 08:20
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
I don't understand this at all. You're saying 75% of 6th and 7th graders taking pre-algebra got BELOW a 420? That makes no sense since you only passed with a 400.
NP. The cutoff is based on state scores— not just APS. And it’s anyone who took the 8th grade SOL, readdress of when they took it and what math class they took that year.
You're totally making stuff up as scores for this past year haven't even been posted by Virginia yet. They've only posted 23-24. Math SOL standards changed in the interim so we don't know the current percentiles.
https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/apex/f?p=152:1:16522701869968:::::
I’m not making anything up. It’s all right here:
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/k-12-standards-instruction/mathematics
See where it shows the upper quartile for each grade? For 2025.
Anonymous
08/02/2025 08:08
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
I don't understand this at all. You're saying 75% of 6th and 7th graders taking pre-algebra got BELOW a 420? That makes no sense since you only passed with a 400.
NP. The cutoff is based on state scores— not just APS. And it’s anyone who took the 8th grade SOL, readdress of when they took it and what math class they took that year.
You're totally making stuff up as scores for this past year haven't even been posted by Virginia yet. They've only posted 23-24. Math SOL standards changed in the interim so we don't know the current percentiles.
https://p1pe.doe.virginia.gov/apex/f?p=152:1:16522701869968:::::
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:59
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
I did thanks, another poster already explained to you why you are wrong. Smugness and ignorance isn't a good look!
Anonymous
08/01/2025 09:01
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
I don't understand this at all. You're saying 75% of 6th and 7th graders taking pre-algebra got BELOW a 420? That makes no sense since you only passed with a 400.
NP. The cutoff is based on state scores— not just APS. And it’s anyone who took the 8th grade SOL, readdress of when they took it and what math class they took that year.
Anonymous
07/31/2025 15:58
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
I don't understand this at all. You're saying 75% of 6th and 7th graders taking pre-algebra got BELOW a 420? That makes no sense since you only passed with a 400.
Anonymous
07/31/2025 15:55
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
Not the PP, but the law states the school board must "develop and adopt a policy that sets forth the criteria for students in grades five through eight to be eligible to enroll in advanced or accelerated mathematics". Algebra in 8th grade is already accelerated. Intensified is an APS word and not in the law at all. Offering Algebra in 8th grade meets the law.
Anonymous
07/31/2025 13:12
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
Has Virginia even posted the final SOL scores for this year yet? I don't think so. The math standards changed so it may not be the same or similar score cutoffs this year.
Anonymous
07/31/2025 12:42
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Ha, YOU should read the actual law:
https://share.google/R2AxGw5VlsviKhEhn
I was wrong about the cut off -- it was 420 for anyone taking the 8th grade sol. Still way too many kids for APS to have in a pipeline to take AP calc.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 20:24
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
this is wrong, read the actual law please
Anonymous
07/30/2025 16:11
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
440 was in the top quarter? Where does that data exist? If it's the law...how can APS ignore it?
Anonymous
07/30/2025 15:21
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
The law says that anyone who scores in the top 25% statewide on the sol needs to be put in intensified math for grades 6-8. For kids in pre algebra (6th and 7th grade), anything above a 440 was in the 25th percentile. That’s too many kids for aps. So instead of creating more sections of intensified algebra, they are saying algebra is already intensified if you are taking it earlier than highschool.
Anonymous
07/30/2025 05:53
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
What does that mean- cutoff for 75%? 440 to 500 is a big jump- why would the other grade changes affect this?
Anonymous
07/29/2025 11:25
Subject: Math Placement Letters APS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone’s course request change from algebra intensified to algebra? Wondering why the above would have affected that?
My kid did. I think the cut off for 75% for the 8th grade sol was 440. So they originally went with that for intensified, but then probably moved it to 500. Bummer for my kid because he really wanted to continue taking intensified math.
If he's really ready (getting As on tests and completing homework on time with minimal assistance) I'd parent place him into intensified.