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My question, how do we get people to leave ICE? How do we make it so toxic, people leave? What type of people sign up for this job and how do we reach them morally?

Why would someone leave a job where you get a pension and can retire at 50? They have great healthcare, dental, vision and life insurance. After they retire they can go into the private sector and make more money.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you do your job and sleep at night? It would break my heart. I would rather be unemployed than uproot families who have been living here for a long time.

At the end of the day, it’s part of the mission of the agency. There are legal means to becoming a US citizen that are available to everyone.

Is the ICE agency perfect? Are all ICE agents perfect? No and No.

Is the police force perfect? Are all police officers perfect? No and No.

Is the military perfect? Are all members of the military perfect? No and No.

BUT....shaming them - calling for them to be defunded or to all resign is wrong.

When they stop wearing MASKS we will stop shaming them. No law enforcement needs masks!
When they stop lying we will stop shaming them. Walking into public spaces and claiming they have "warrents" when they don't is not acceptable period!
They are already over budget by $1 Billion so yes they need to be defunded!

No, if they don't wear masks, Democrats will publish their names and attack them and their families at their homes.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you do your job and sleep at night? It would break my heart. I would rather be unemployed than uproot families who have been living here for a long time.

At the end of the day, it’s part of the mission of the agency. There are legal means to becoming a US citizen that are available to everyone.

Is the ICE agency perfect? Are all ICE agents perfect? No and No.

Is the police force perfect? Are all police officers perfect? No and No.

Is the military perfect? Are all members of the military perfect? No and No.

BUT....shaming them - calling for them to be defunded or to all resign is wrong.

When they stop wearing MASKS we will stop shaming them. No law enforcement needs masks!
When they stop lying we will stop shaming them. Walking into public spaces and claiming they have "warrents" when they don't is not acceptable period!
They are already over budget by $1 Billion so yes they need to be defunded!

No, if they don't wear masks, Democrats will publish their names and attack them and their families at their homes.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you do your job and sleep at night? It would break my heart. I would rather be unemployed than uproot families who have been living here for a long time.

At the end of the day, it’s part of the mission of the agency. There are legal means to becoming a US citizen that are available to everyone.

Is the ICE agency perfect? Are all ICE agents perfect? No and No.

Is the police force perfect? Are all police officers perfect? No and No.

Is the military perfect? Are all members of the military perfect? No and No.

BUT....shaming them - calling for them to be defunded or to all resign is wrong.

When they stop wearing MASKS we will stop shaming them. No law enforcement needs masks!
When they stop lying we will stop shaming them. Walking into public spaces and claiming they have "warrents" when they don't is not acceptable period!
They are already over budget by $1 Billion so yes they need to be defunded!

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Anonymous wrote:By policy, we were not required to provide our identity (only badge number). At that time, it was more out of concern about potential targeting by narco-terrorists and other crooks.

That would be a legitimate concern. HOWEVER... currently, the overwhelming majority of people being targeted by ICE are harmless farm workers, busboys, cooks and dishwashers, hospitality industry housekeeping staff, construction and maintenance workers, and so on, with absolutely no connection to narcoterrorists or other crooks.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you do your job and sleep at night? It would break my heart. I would rather be unemployed than uproot families who have been living here for a long time.

At the end of the day, it’s part of the mission of the agency. The are legal means to becoming a US citizen that are available to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you do your job and sleep at night? It would break my heart. I would rather be unemployed than uproot families who have been living here for a long time.

At the end of the day, it’s part of the mission of the agency. There are legal means to becoming a US citizen that are available to everyone.

Is the ICE agency perfect? Are all ICE agents perfect? No and No.

Is the police force perfect? Are all police officers perfect? No and No.

Is the military perfect? Are all members of the military perfect? No and No.

BUT....shaming them - calling for them to be defunded or to all resign is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you do your job and sleep at night? It would break my heart. I would rather be unemployed than uproot families who have been living here for a long time.

At the end of the day, it’s part of the mission of the agency. There are legal means to becoming a US citizen that are available to everyone.

Is the ICE agency perfect? Are all ICE agents perfect? No and No.

Is the police force perfect? Are all police officers perfect? No and No.

Is the military perfect? Are all members of the military perfect? No and No.

BUT....shaming them - calling for them to be defunded or to all resign is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do you think that there should be no people in the U.S. illegally? If you had a way to deport them all with due process and all the other niceties, would you do it?

Not OP, but are you really asking such a stupid question? You yourself said "in the U.S. illegally".

It's like asking a police officer if they think all rapists, drug dealers (basically anyone who breaks the law) should be arrested and put in jail.

Can't wait to see OP's response.

Oh I was very intentional.
Common sense is lost on so many people today. They think trespassing is ok if you don’t steal or rob. I wouldn’t be surprised if even some ICE agents, past and present, support amnesty of some kind.

Are you aware that many entered legally (under Temporary Protected Status which was an immigration category created by President Bush allowing the GOP to dodge tackling immigration reform) but because TPS is under the whims of the executive, many have been made "illegal" (after settling here with jobs and paying taxes) with the status yanked back? It is not so simple as to label people "illegal" and paint a black/white picture.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do you think that there should be no people in the U.S. illegally? If you had a way to deport them all with due process and all the other niceties, would you do it?

Again, I’m a rule of law advocate. There is a legal means to immigrate here. So yes, in theory, I am ok with deporting anyone here illegally through the lawful process.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for your service OP. When did you retire?

What service?! It’s a paid job. And it’s often a disservice since the people they throw out do jobs Americans deem too lowly to ever do themselves. Ask farms and restaurants that are massively understaffed at present. Let’s not pretend that OP was risking his life pulling people out of burning buildings.

I retired in 2014. No to boast, but I put many many bad criminals in jail during my 30-year career (gang members, drug cartel members, corrupt cops, people exploiting children, terrorists attempting to obtain WMD components, former foreign regime members who killed or tortured hundreds of people, etc). It wasn’t just immigration work.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you do your job and sleep at night? It would break my heart. I would rather be unemployed than uproot families who have been living here for a long time.

At the end of the day, it’s part of the mission of the agency. There are legal means to becoming a US citizen that are available to everyone.

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My question, how do we get people to leave ICE? How do we make it so toxic, people leave? What type of people sign up for this job and how do we reach them morally?

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Anonymous wrote:You all are being extremely disrespectful and rude to this poster. Most of you aren’t interested in understanding or learning anything, most of you just want to be dicks to the OP.

So disappointing… even for dcumad.

+100

So much judgment. Some might learn something that could help improve the situation.

I’ve appreciated OPs comments and his work. For those how dont bother reading, OP retired 10 years ago and was doing important work, unlike what they are doing now.

My question, how do we get people to leave ICE? How do we make it so toxic, people leave? What type of people sign up for this job and how do we reach them morally?