Anonymous wrote:PP and I recall as a long-ago FCPS HS graduate the not too insignificant numbers of fellow military brats who moved in temporarily with a fellow student’s family to finish out a school year (usually senior) when active parent got orders to transfer.

There was a whole procedure that involved paying tuition to FCPS - I know because we did this for a family member. This was monitored in that the arrangement had some limit (like one school year) and the tuition was fairly substantial (I remember my own father saying too expensive, too bad, we’ve moving).

So I hope this entirely program has been discontinued in the name of equity, of course.

You are correct that the military kids should not be required to pay tuition if any random from Maryland, Loudoun or Prince William County can openly cheat the system and attend fcps with no repurcussions.

Lots of fraud happening

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Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.

Unlikely. The AAP or LI escape hatch is available to any student in FCPS if they want out of a high FARMS classroom. In high school it's the AP/IB or language transfer loophole. In any case, people don't care that much about kids who live in Fairfax fudging their addresses to go to a different school in the county. People care deeply about kids who don't live in Fairfax attending FCPS unless their parents are paying the out of district tuition.

LI only works if you are able to get a slot. The Spanish, French, and German programs have huge waitlists. The Korean and Japanese programs tend to have smaller wait lists that move but not a lot of people are interested in those languages. The Fox Mill classes are pretty much always full, but it sounds like Great Falls has space in their class. The Korean program right now is at Powell ES, but I know little about it. It looks like there is interest in starting a second Korean program at Halley ES. The problem with the immersion programs is that your child has to participate in the language and, for MS and HS, take that language in order to pupil place at schools.

Why go through that trouble when you can lie about an address and attend without locking your kid into a specific language?

Anonymous wrote:How many of you are permissive of little enforcement of illegal aliens?

Posters on this thread are basically saying that if this were illegal immigration’s they’d be fine with ICE relentlessly tracking down these thieving lying “scum”.

Or is it different when the black lady from PG is breaking the rules rather than a Hispanic guy who rakes your leaves?

It is more likely the kids whose parents want the bigger house but don't like the schools and are not willing to pupil place because the schools they want to attend are not available for pupil placement. Parents who have the time and money to drive their kids to and from schools but want a big house with a big yard and not a huge mortgage.

Anonymous wrote:You both do sound pretty trashy, but I hate cheats, so I hope you do turn her in.

Two questions - do you mind sharing her race and yours? and, which school?

apologies if those questions already are answered up thread.

Why does their race matter?

Anonymous wrote:Years ago, I reported blatant fraud when a mutual contact shared that my elderly neighbor might need some looking after since she lived alone. What a surprise - her 2 grandchildren had transferred to our neighborhood HS the school year before and were undoubtedly my DC’s classmates (one on same sports team). Mom was driving in from MD and dropping 2DC off to the HS daily. Kids never stayed over at grandma’s and clearly they were just using her address. So, I reported. Nothing was done. Both graduated from HS - got accepted to colleges.

Very frustrating for a kid from MD to take opportunities like a team roster spot.

You both do sound pretty trashy, but I hate cheats, so I hope you do turn her in.

Two questions - do you mind sharing her race and yours? and, which school?

apologies if those questions already are answered up thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.

Unlikely. The AAP or LI escape hatch is available to any student in FCPS if they want out of a high FARMS classroom. In high school it's the AP/IB or language transfer loophole. In any case, people don't care that much about kids who live in Fairfax fudging their addresses to go to a different school in the county. People care deeply about kids who don't live in Fairfax attending FCPS unless their parents are paying the out of district tuition.

I can assure you that people getting kicked out of their current boundary schools (i.e. Chantilly) deeply care about all the kids from other parts of Fairfax whose parents are lying about their address to go to Chantilly.

Who is getting kicked out of Chantilly? I am PP and do think there should be an annual residency check for all FCPS students, especially HS. If in boundary kids are getting kicked out that's news to me.

Have you not been paying attention to the current boundary review process. The proposals are up at fcpsboundaryreview.org showing exactly which neighborhoods are proposed to be kicked out of Chantilly. Click on HS scenarios 2 and 3 to see for yourself.

Yes, I'm well aware of the current boundary review process. I don't see what that has to do with people lying about their addresses to commit residency fraud. Are you insinuating that there's already a lot of it happening at Chantilly and that's why it's overcrowded? If so, you need to be reporting the people who are lying ASAP. Also, you should know that buying in a particular neighborhood does not guarantee you'll be zoned to a specific school.

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Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.

Unlikely. The AAP or LI escape hatch is available to any student in FCPS if they want out of a high FARMS classroom. In high school it's the AP/IB or language transfer loophole. In any case, people don't care that much about kids who live in Fairfax fudging their addresses to go to a different school in the county. People care deeply about kids who don't live in Fairfax attending FCPS unless their parents are paying the out of district tuition.

I can assure you that people getting kicked out of their current boundary schools (i.e. Chantilly) deeply care about all the kids from other parts of Fairfax whose parents are lying about their address to go to Chantilly.

Who is getting kicked out of Chantilly? I am PP and do think there should be an annual residency check for all FCPS students, especially HS. If in boundary kids are getting kicked out that's news to me.

Have you not been paying attention to the current boundary review process. The proposals are up at fcpsboundaryreview.org showing exactly which neighborhoods are proposed to be kicked out of Chantilly. Click on HS scenarios 2 and 3 to see for yourself.

How many of you are permissive of little enforcement of illegal aliens?

Posters on this thread are basically saying that if this were illegal immigration’s they’d be fine with ICE relentlessly tracking down these thieving lying “scum”.

Or is it different when the black lady from PG is breaking the rules rather than a Hispanic guy who rakes your leaves?

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is that there isn’t enough staff to do the investigations. There used to be attendance officers assigned to specific regions in the county. As an administrator, I would work with ours and uncovered many residency frauds. They would look up tax records, follow cars home, do stake-outs and meet with me to confront families. Then a few years ago, those went away. Now there is one residency investigator. The job could pay for itself in tax dollars saved.

The next time there is a community meeting, ask Reid why there is only one residency investigator. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are lost because we’re educating students who live in Maryland, Alexandria City and Prince William county.

Icky. Regardless of how you feel about residency fraud, the thought of some low-paid rent-a-cop following FCPS children home and staking them out (which sounds like the textbook definition of stalking), doesn’t sit well with me. Not something I plan to ask Reid to do.

They’re following the parents! These kids are getting in cars driven by their parents and going home to other jurisdictions. No one is hiding in bushes following a kid down the sidewalk.

The investigators will find documentation of a home sale in Maryland. He then parks outside the home in the morning, watches the kids get in the car and then either follows the car or asks the school to see what kind of car the kids get out of when they arrive.

And they’re not stalking. Per Mr. Google, stalking is a pervasive and unwelcome pursuit that infringes on an individual's privacy and sense of safety. On the other hand, investigating serves a purpose, often legal or professional, to gather information without crossing ethical lines.

We found the stalker-sympathizer on the forum.

She (or probably he) says: stalking is just an individual investigating another individual - like a personalized wellness check. Why is that a problem?

I’m so sorry that you’re that limited in your reasoning skills to understand the difference between a school official investigating someone for a legitimate residency issue and stalking them. Blessings to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.

So you are saying that FCPS allows residency fraud to encourage wealthy families to leave their neighborhood schoolsin some modern equity version of 1970s white flight?

I think the people who take advantage of the lax residency checks tend to be people who can’t afford to buy in the area. I’m not sure what the knock on effects are, but I think that they’ll keep the status quo, less they start to identify poor kids who shouldn’t be at low farms schools.

PP and I recall as a long-ago FCPS HS graduate the not too insignificant numbers of fellow military brats who moved in temporarily with a fellow student’s family to finish out a school year (usually senior) when active parent got orders to transfer.

There was a whole procedure that involved paying tuition to FCPS - I know because we did this for a family member. This was monitored in that the arrangement had some limit (like one school year) and the tuition was fairly substantial (I remember my own father saying too expensive, too bad, we’ve moving).

So I hope this entirely program has been discontinued in the name of equity, of course.

Years ago, I reported blatant fraud when a mutual contact shared that my elderly neighbor might need some looking after since she lived alone. What a surprise - her 2 grandchildren had transferred to our neighborhood HS the school year before and were undoubtedly my DC’s classmates (one on same sports team). Mom was driving in from MD and dropping 2DC off to the HS daily. Kids never stayed over at grandma’s and clearly they were just using her address. So, I reported. Nothing was done. Both graduated from HS - got accepted to colleges.

Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.

It is not the poor kids doing this.

It is wealthy families who want a bigger house or closer commute for less money.