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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

[/b]Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating

[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report

On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.

“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.

Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.

“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”

Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.

Then why were dcum posts insisting this baby was blind and disabled and would never live or lead a life of any kind?

People can search back and see all the sick lies told about this child.

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

[/b]Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating

[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report

On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.

“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.

Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.

“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”

Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.

Then why were dcum posts insisting this baby was blind and disabled and would never live or lead a life of any kind?

People can search back and see all the sick lies told about this child.

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Anonymous wrote:Are these people excited for this going to also be excited for their taxes going to cover this baby's Medicaid and SSD for the next 80+ years? Considering the fact that the Right wants to gut Medicaid, I'm going to say no.

We have a medically fragile micro-preemie in my family. She was born at 25 weeks and weighed 1.2 lbs. She was in the NICU for 157 days. Each day in the NICU was basically $21k. Just her NICU stay alone clocked in at over $3 million dollars. That didn't include the 'others' like meds, care team, equipment, etc. That was just the amount for the NICU incubator. A hospital social worker worked with my sister to get my niece on Medicare. My sis and BIL had no idea she would even qualify because they have good jobs and private insurance. The social worker was amazing! She taught them so many things that they didn't know about medically fragile/disabled kids + Medicaid. Before she was born, they had no idea that Medicaid could be given to just 1 family member even if the family was well-off.

My niece is now 2 but she will never live a normal, traditional life. She has a trach-vent, which requires round-the-clock care. That's fully funded and provided by Medicaid. My sister's & BILs private insurance did NOT cover that, which is one thing the hospital social worker taught them. She also has CP, a seizure disorder, and other issues. Just one of her hospital stays for something minor like a cold can rack up a $500k bill.

I thought democrats were different than republicans because democrats want to help the poor, needy, and sick?

Aren’t democrats all for the safety net that helps poor, needy, and sick people?

The baby is here and he’s a wanted child.

Why are we supposed to worry about caring for him via taxpayer dollars? That’s what taxpayer dollars are for? Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, is all for sick and disabled people.

What about his qualify of life? Does it matter how much he will suffer in life or not? Is the only thing that matters that he is alive?

You get to decide whether or not Chance has a good quality of life?

What makes you the expert on Chance’s qol?

Sur, micro premies are known for their quality of life./s

Sure, you are totally aware of each prematurely born child’s medical condition and qol and should be invited to sit in with the child’s parents and doctors during their discussions.

Also you should be the person who decides what a good qol is for someone else, someone else’s child, and decide when they should be removed from life support and life sustaining medical care.

There was a thread the other day about how cruel republicans are because they wanted to send a child with short bowel syndrome back to Mexico. Democrats were livid that this child would die without advanced medical care.

But Chance, why can’t he have advanced medical care? Because you don’t think he should?

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Anonymous wrote:Are these people excited for this going to also be excited for their taxes going to cover this baby's Medicaid and SSD for the next 80+ years? Considering the fact that the Right wants to gut Medicaid, I'm going to say no.

We have a medically fragile micro-preemie in my family. She was born at 25 weeks and weighed 1.2 lbs. She was in the NICU for 157 days. Each day in the NICU was basically $21k. Just her NICU stay alone clocked in at over $3 million dollars. That didn't include the 'others' like meds, care team, equipment, etc. That was just the amount for the NICU incubator. A hospital social worker worked with my sister to get my niece on Medicare. My sis and BIL had no idea she would even qualify because they have good jobs and private insurance. The social worker was amazing! She taught them so many things that they didn't know about medically fragile/disabled kids + Medicaid. Before she was born, they had no idea that Medicaid could be given to just 1 family member even if the family was well-off.

My niece is now 2 but she will never live a normal, traditional life. She has a trach-vent, which requires round-the-clock care. That's fully funded and provided by Medicaid. My sister's & BILs private insurance did NOT cover that, which is one thing the hospital social worker taught them. She also has CP, a seizure disorder, and other issues. Just one of her hospital stays for something minor like a cold can rack up a $500k bill.

I thought democrats were different than republicans because democrats want to help the poor, needy, and sick?

Aren’t democrats all for the safety net that helps poor, needy, and sick people?

The baby is here and he’s a wanted child.

Why are we supposed to worry about caring for him via taxpayer dollars? That’s what taxpayer dollars are for? Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, is all for sick and disabled people.

He was a wanted child by the mother who is dead (unless they are still keeping her alive for some unknown reason). His family likely do not want to see him suffer in life. He and his mother should have been left to the decisions of the family. Not Georgia of all states FCS.

His grandmother said he is a wanted child. The family would not have chosen to take their family member (Chance’s mom) off life support.

“We want the baby. That’s a part of my daughter.“- Adriana Smith’s mom, Chance’s grandmother

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Anonymous wrote:Are these people excited for this going to also be excited for their taxes going to cover this baby's Medicaid and SSD for the next 80+ years? Considering the fact that the Right wants to gut Medicaid, I'm going to say no.

We have a medically fragile micro-preemie in my family. She was born at 25 weeks and weighed 1.2 lbs. She was in the NICU for 157 days. Each day in the NICU was basically $21k. Just her NICU stay alone clocked in at over $3 million dollars. That didn't include the 'others' like meds, care team, equipment, etc. That was just the amount for the NICU incubator. A hospital social worker worked with my sister to get my niece on Medicare. My sis and BIL had no idea she would even qualify because they have good jobs and private insurance. The social worker was amazing! She taught them so many things that they didn't know about medically fragile/disabled kids + Medicaid. Before she was born, they had no idea that Medicaid could be given to just 1 family member even if the family was well-off.

My niece is now 2 but she will never live a normal, traditional life. She has a trach-vent, which requires round-the-clock care. That's fully funded and provided by Medicaid. My sister's & BILs private insurance did NOT cover that, which is one thing the hospital social worker taught them. She also has CP, a seizure disorder, and other issues. Just one of her hospital stays for something minor like a cold can rack up a $500k bill.

I thought democrats were different than republicans because democrats want to help the poor, needy, and sick?

Aren’t democrats all for the safety net that helps poor, needy, and sick people?

The baby is here and he’s a wanted child.

Why are we supposed to worry about caring for him via taxpayer dollars? That’s what taxpayer dollars are for? Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, is all for sick and disabled people.

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

[/b]Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating

[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report

On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.

“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.

Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.

“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”

Great. The only point relevant here is that the family is allowed to choose. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

[/b]Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating

[b]Adriana Smith’s baby is “doing better,” her mother said, in follow-up to 11Alive’s report

On Monday, Newkirk shared that her unborn grandson — whom the family has named Chance — is continuing to grow.

“The baby is actually doing better than the last time I met with the doctors,” she said.

Newkirk explained Smith is receiving steroids and nutrition through a PICC line. She added that baby Chance's heartbeat is strong and that he's measuring slightly above average in weight for his gestational age.

“He has his toes, arms, limbs — everything is forming,” she said. “We're just hoping he makes it.”

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Anonymous wrote:Are these people excited for this going to also be excited for their taxes going to cover this baby's Medicaid and SSD for the next 80+ years? Considering the fact that the Right wants to gut Medicaid, I'm going to say no.

We have a medically fragile micro-preemie in my family. She was born at 25 weeks and weighed 1.2 lbs. She was in the NICU for 157 days. Each day in the NICU was basically $21k. Just her NICU stay alone clocked in at over $3 million dollars. That didn't include the 'others' like meds, care team, equipment, etc. That was just the amount for the NICU incubator. A hospital social worker worked with my sister to get my niece on Medicare. My sis and BIL had no idea she would even qualify because they have good jobs and private insurance. The social worker was amazing! She taught them so many things that they didn't know about medically fragile/disabled kids + Medicaid. Before she was born, they had no idea that Medicaid could be given to just 1 family member even if the family was well-off.

My niece is now 2 but she will never live a normal, traditional life. She has a trach-vent, which requires round-the-clock care. That's fully funded and provided by Medicaid. My sister's & BILs private insurance did NOT cover that, which is one thing the hospital social worker taught them. She also has CP, a seizure disorder, and other issues. Just one of her hospital stays for something minor like a cold can rack up a $500k bill.

I thought democrats were different than republicans because democrats want to help the poor, needy, and sick?

Aren’t democrats all for the safety net that helps poor, needy, and sick people?

The baby is here and he’s a wanted child.

Why are we supposed to worry about caring for him via taxpayer dollars? That’s what taxpayer dollars are for? Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, is all for sick and disabled people.

What about his qualify of life? Does it matter how much he will suffer in life or not? Is the only thing that matters that he is alive?

You get to decide whether or not Chance has a good quality of life?

What makes you the expert on Chance’s qol?

Sur, micro premies are known for their quality of life./s

Sure, you are totally aware of each prematurely born child’s medical condition and qol and should be invited to sit in with the child’s parents and doctors during their discussions.

Also you should be the person who decides what a good qol is for someone else, someone else’s child, and decide when they should be removed from life support and life sustaining medical care.

There was a thread the other day about how cruel republicans are because they wanted to send a child with short bowel syndrome back to Mexico. Democrats were livid that this child would die without advanced medical care.

But Chance, why can’t he have advanced medical care? Because you don’t think he should?

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

[/b]Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

Great, the bolded is all that matters and can stop debating

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

[/b]Each family should have a choice. [b]

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

You don’t know anything about this baby either. Stop pretending that you care to advance your agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

You don’t know anything about this baby either. Stop pretending that you care to advance your agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Are these people excited for this going to also be excited for their taxes going to cover this baby's Medicaid and SSD for the next 80+ years? Considering the fact that the Right wants to gut Medicaid, I'm going to say no.

We have a medically fragile micro-preemie in my family. She was born at 25 weeks and weighed 1.2 lbs. She was in the NICU for 157 days. Each day in the NICU was basically $21k. Just her NICU stay alone clocked in at over $3 million dollars. That didn't include the 'others' like meds, care team, equipment, etc. That was just the amount for the NICU incubator. A hospital social worker worked with my sister to get my niece on Medicare. My sis and BIL had no idea she would even qualify because they have good jobs and private insurance. The social worker was amazing! She taught them so many things that they didn't know about medically fragile/disabled kids + Medicaid. Before she was born, they had no idea that Medicaid could be given to just 1 family member even if the family was well-off.

My niece is now 2 but she will never live a normal, traditional life. She has a trach-vent, which requires round-the-clock care. That's fully funded and provided by Medicaid. My sister's & BILs private insurance did NOT cover that, which is one thing the hospital social worker taught them. She also has CP, a seizure disorder, and other issues. Just one of her hospital stays for something minor like a cold can rack up a $500k bill.

I thought democrats were different than republicans because democrats want to help the poor, needy, and sick?

Aren’t democrats all for the safety net that helps poor, needy, and sick people?

The baby is here and he’s a wanted child.

Why are we supposed to worry about caring for him via taxpayer dollars? That’s what taxpayer dollars are for? Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, is all for sick and disabled people.

What about his qualify of life? Does it matter how much he will suffer in life or not? Is the only thing that matters that he is alive?

You get to decide whether or not Chance has a good quality of life?

What makes you the expert on Chance’s qol?

Sur, micro premies are known for their quality of life./s

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Anonymous wrote:The experience that most cemented my pro choice view was a clinical rotation in pediatric long term ventilator ward with children sustained on vents for years with brain damage, just laying in a bed due to congenital abnormality, eyes staring, getting suctioned through their trachs all day.

Children do not spend years in vent wards.

They are discharged home. They receive vent support at home.

You don’t get to remove other people’s children from life support.

Unless you want to be one of those “angel of death” medical professionals who kill their patients to “end their suffering.”

Those people are jailed because they are psychopaths masquerading as medical professionals.

Usually at home, but yes there are some places that provide permanent long term care for children. Hospital for Sick Children in DC is one. Not sure why you think you are an expert on chronic vent patient care? Have you, personally, cared for these patients?

And I was not advocating for removing them, but cemented for me my own choice if pregnant with a child with a major medical condition facing a life like that if I continued with the pregnancy. Do you believe I should he allowed that choice?

I also have provided care for other adult chronic vent patients. There are long term care hospitals in the area where these patients reside like both Bridgepoint locations or Cadia Hyattsville. Sometimes this makes sense and sometimes we sustain people literally because the family cannot let go. This is why most healthcare workers would not choose excessive intervention, because they have seen the ramifications up close. The Pitt is a show that does a good job displaying a family going through the decision to let a loved one die vs attempt futile intervention in hope of a miracle.

Anyway, if this is what the family wanted, great, but if not, I take it you believe they should not have had a choice? That is the biggest question here, not the specifics of this case, but whether a family is allowed to choose.

Each family should have a choice.

Chance is not a chronic vent patient.

Why do you think your experience with chronic vent patients should be relevant to his personal medical treatment?

What do you think about the people here who posted that Chance was blind, would never be able to walk, has severe disabilities, etc, without knowing the actual truth about him?

They would not have access to Chance’s medical records. But they still pretended they knew his condition.

Why would strangers lie about an unborn baby?

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Anonymous wrote:Are these people excited for this going to also be excited for their taxes going to cover this baby's Medicaid and SSD for the next 80+ years? Considering the fact that the Right wants to gut Medicaid, I'm going to say no.

We have a medically fragile micro-preemie in my family. She was born at 25 weeks and weighed 1.2 lbs. She was in the NICU for 157 days. Each day in the NICU was basically $21k. Just her NICU stay alone clocked in at over $3 million dollars. That didn't include the 'others' like meds, care team, equipment, etc. That was just the amount for the NICU incubator. A hospital social worker worked with my sister to get my niece on Medicare. My sis and BIL had no idea she would even qualify because they have good jobs and private insurance. The social worker was amazing! She taught them so many things that they didn't know about medically fragile/disabled kids + Medicaid. Before she was born, they had no idea that Medicaid could be given to just 1 family member even if the family was well-off.

My niece is now 2 but she will never live a normal, traditional life. She has a trach-vent, which requires round-the-clock care. That's fully funded and provided by Medicaid. My sister's & BILs private insurance did NOT cover that, which is one thing the hospital social worker taught them. She also has CP, a seizure disorder, and other issues. Just one of her hospital stays for something minor like a cold can rack up a $500k bill.

I thought democrats were different than republicans because democrats want to help the poor, needy, and sick?

Aren’t democrats all for the safety net that helps poor, needy, and sick people?

The baby is here and he’s a wanted child.

Why are we supposed to worry about caring for him via taxpayer dollars? That’s what taxpayer dollars are for? Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, is all for sick and disabled people.

What about his qualify of life? Does it matter how much he will suffer in life or not? Is the only thing that matters that he is alive?

You get to decide whether or not Chance has a good quality of life?

What makes you the expert on Chance’s qol?