Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:37
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.
I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.
The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.
But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).
The function of government is to provide services and programs that individuals can’t provide on their own. I’m happy to pay taxes so we can have national parks and accurate weather forecasting. The majority of Americans like Social Security and Medicare. Do you want the full burden of caring for your elderly parents for 20+ years?
I have a crazy idea.
I know that it seems nuts, but what if we tax all of the hyper rich in an appropriate manner? We could tax wealth and income at a much higher rate and still probably be way lower than most 1st world countries, then use that money to benefit Americans.
If you did that, the hyper rich would pack up and leave and take their job-creating businesses with them. Jeez….having to read how Libs think about economics is painful and sad.
The hyper rich already pay most of the taxes. Time to tax the bottom 50% who pay no taxes but still reap the benefits. Seems fair to me.
Tool
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:32
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.
I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.
The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.
But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).
The function of government is to provide services and programs that individuals can’t provide on their own. I’m happy to pay taxes so we can have national parks and accurate weather forecasting. The majority of Americans like Social Security and Medicare. Do you want the full burden of caring for your elderly parents for 20+ years?
I have a crazy idea.
I know that it seems nuts, but what if we tax all of the hyper rich in an appropriate manner? We could tax wealth and income at a much higher rate and still probably be way lower than most 1st world countries, then use that money to benefit Americans.
If you did that, the hyper rich would pack up and leave and take their job-creating businesses with them. Jeez….having to read how Libs think about economics is painful and sad.
Babe don’t threaten me with a good time
Your $1k 401K will get you far.
You are a tool for people who do not care at all about you. Have a nice day.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:31
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
The hyper rich are hoarding wealth offshore, inflating stock prices with stock buybacks, buying political favor that hurts most of us, and not paying their fair share.
They can go have their banana republic elsewhere.
They can go have their banana republic elsewhere.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:24
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Dem candidate needs to push for universal healthcare. It’s time.
+1. A not-remotely-progressive, non-college-educated woman I know who is paying off her kids’ hospital bills on a monthly basis and will continue for the next decade recently said to me, “I used to be so opposed to universal healthcare, but now I’m like ‘Bring it on, because it can’t be worse than what we have now.’”
When she said that, I knew, “It’s time.”
See, here is a winning issue for team D. Now watch them run away from it for the next decade.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:20
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:I think the Dem candidate needs to push for universal healthcare. It’s time.
+1. A not-remotely-progressive, non-college-educated woman I know who is paying off her kids’ hospital bills on a monthly basis and will continue for the next decade recently said to me, “I used to be so opposed to universal healthcare, but now I’m like ‘Bring it on, because it can’t be worse than what we have now.’”
When she said that, I knew, “It’s time.”
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:15
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
This worked for Obama. I remember people got an $8000 credit if they were first time purchasers.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The election was NOT an endorsement of RW policies or Trump. It was a vote against the incumbent party, the same thing happening all over the world! Yes, we have way too many bigots and racist people citizens. But yesterday proved that a huge majority do not want what Trump is selling.
Humans are complicated. We can’t deduce a person down to one vote. But yesterday, millions of Americans came out to show their disapproval. And look at the images. These aren’t “radical, socialist, Democrats.”
I’m sure MAGA will try to spin some fanciful tale, but we all saw the pitiful fascist parade vs. the MILLIONS of everyday people, from small “red” towns to big “blue” cities coming together to show their love of country(lots of 🇺🇸) and their opposition to MAGA.
Correct. Any political scientist will tell you the 2024 POTUS race was lost by Joe Biden. There were no winners. Only losers.
OP here. I agree. Biden and his team landed us here. Not just because he ran again, but because he did NOTHING to stop the slide into fascism. They naively thought people would reward them for good policies and operated like they were in the West Wing. Plus Gaza.
I agree with you and with what Jon Stewart said about this matter- When the opponent is as awful as Trump and is easily beatable by any normal POTUS candidate, you hire a Clinton or an Obama who will easily beat him once and then twice if the opposition is stupid enough to run the easily beatable awful candidate again. You don't hire a bumbling, fumbling 80 year old who is just going to gift The White House back to the awful opponent in four years.
No, the people who voted for Trump, including in the Republican primary, when they too had alternatives, landed us here, along with the members of Congress who had the opportunity to do the right thing by the Constitution and chose not to do so out of fear of losing power individually.
Exactly. People voted for this because the alternative was a black woman who dared to laugh.
She also had insane ideas like lowering house prices by giving home buyers money.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:14
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.
I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.
The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.
But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).
The function of government is to provide services and programs that individuals can’t provide on their own. I’m happy to pay taxes so we can have national parks and accurate weather forecasting. The majority of Americans like Social Security and Medicare. Do you want the full burden of caring for your elderly parents for 20+ years?
I have a crazy idea.
I know that it seems nuts, but what if we tax all of the hyper rich in an appropriate manner? We could tax wealth and income at a much higher rate and still probably be way lower than most 1st world countries, then use that money to benefit Americans.
If you did that, the hyper rich would pack up and leave and take their job-creating businesses with them. Jeez….having to read how Libs think about economics is painful and sad.
LOL< no, they won't. Becuase when properly invested and cultivated, the US has the most educated and industrious population and hiring base in the world. The GOP has been destroying it over the last 40 years, but we can get back to it.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:08
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They don't want Democrats' policies either which is how you got Trump.
Democrats’ policies when polled are very popular. It’s that Republicans lie about what Democrats’ policies are.
Things usually are with other people's money.
Democrats think they're owed everything as a right by others.
Don't get offended when people label you socialist pigs.
You mean like all of the people living in red states? They take far more than they contribute. How about the welfare ranchers on public lands?
Perhaps Democrats should support lower tax rates on the rich, to reduce this deficit.
You forgot to spell "HIGHER tax rates on the rich."
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:05
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If these people have a problem with Trump, they should have voted for Kamala. The problem is so many people didn't show up to vote or voted for Trump when Kamala was 100% the better choice.
You’re delusional. Harris would have been worse than Biden and that is saying something.
This is an opinion, and an ignorant one devoid of fact.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:05
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.
I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.
The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.
But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).
The function of government is to provide services and programs that individuals can’t provide on their own. I’m happy to pay taxes so we can have national parks and accurate weather forecasting. The majority of Americans like Social Security and Medicare. Do you want the full burden of caring for your elderly parents for 20+ years?
The point is to push women out of the workforce so they can handle that free of charge. 😉
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:05
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If these people have a problem with Trump, they should have voted for Kamala. The problem is so many people didn't show up to vote or voted for Trump when Kamala was 100% the better choice.
You’re delusional. Harris would have been worse than Biden and that is saying something.
sure sure go back to your moms basement
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:04
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
Anonymous wrote:If these people have a problem with Trump, they should have voted for Kamala. The problem is so many people didn't show up to vote or voted for Trump when Kamala was 100% the better choice.
This....it proves there is a lack of critical thinking skills and education in America.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 16:00
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
We are, and have been, under minoritarian rule for some time. That's why MAGA has an outsize voice.
The Senate is an excellent example. Combine that with the static size of the House, and the failure to expand the Supreme Court and there you have it.
MAGA is probably less than 30% of the population, but they are living in places where their vote counts more than non-MAGA.
The Senate is an excellent example. Combine that with the static size of the House, and the failure to expand the Supreme Court and there you have it.
MAGA is probably less than 30% of the population, but they are living in places where their vote counts more than non-MAGA.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 15:55
Subject: Re:Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
What I love about yesterday is it pierced the illusion that “Real America” wants Trump. We’ve seen images from all over America of millions of everyday people saying they do not want an authoritarian/tyrant/king.
Up until now Trump‘s been able to sell himself as a populist POTUS who is tapped into sentiment of the masses.
Not only did millions of Americans protest against Trump, but “his people” or “real Americans” didn’t show up to his parade. There’s no putting in that toothpaste back in the bottle.
He’s more than a lame duck. He’s a sitting duck and he better watch his back because Vance and Peter Thiel are coming for him.
Up until now Trump‘s been able to sell himself as a populist POTUS who is tapped into sentiment of the masses.
Not only did millions of Americans protest against Trump, but “his people” or “real Americans” didn’t show up to his parade. There’s no putting in that toothpaste back in the bottle.
He’s more than a lame duck. He’s a sitting duck and he better watch his back because Vance and Peter Thiel are coming for him.
Anonymous
06/15/2025 15:50
Subject: Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?
If these people have a problem with Trump, they should have voted for Kamala. The problem is so many people didn't show up to vote or voted for Trump when Kamala was 100% the better choice.