Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 05:38     Subject: People who lie about service animals

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:One aspect of emotional support/fake service animal issue that's especially problematic to me is that people (including here) are focusing mostly on dogs, but there's a slippery slope where other, less innocuous animals are presented as ESAs, which could pose a public safety threat. Take, for example, the ESA that's an alligator: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-says-emotional-support-alligator-known-big-social-media-audience-g-rcna150426.


Dogs and cats are also a safety risk. Some people have allergies and shouldn’t be forced to sit near them or on a seat that they have touched. Also dogs can bite. We just need to regulate all of them.


PP you're replying to and I didn't say dogs and cats AREN'T a safety risk, just that there are animals that are inherently dangerous and because dogs and cats have been given a pass as ESAs, people have become more emboldened to subject the public to those more dangerous animals.


Peanuts are a safety risk. Should we allow peanuts in public? There are more peanut candy bars than cats and dogs.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2025 05:36     Subject: People who lie about service animals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One aspect of emotional support/fake service animal issue that's especially problematic to me is that people (including here) are focusing mostly on dogs, but there's a slippery slope where other, less innocuous animals are presented as ESAs, which could pose a public safety threat. Take, for example, the ESA that's an alligator: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-says-emotional-support-alligator-known-big-social-media-audience-g-rcna150426.


Dogs and cats are also a safety risk. Some people have allergies and shouldn’t be forced to sit near them or on a seat that they have touched. Also dogs can bite. We just need to regulate all of them.


General dog/cat/whatever ownership license and permit, including passing a test that says you understand the basics of care and keeping of the animal(s), plus mandatory proof of insurance covering anything your pet may get up to (bites, destruction of property, etc.). Severe financial penalties for being out-of-compliance or violating animal control code/legal restrictions in your area. Funds used to pay animal control officers, upgrade and maintain shelters, and provide public education on pet ownership.

Special permit required for "service animal" showing need and specifically-trained tasks animal is trained to perform. Permit is free, but proof is mandatory.


We'll get right on this. It's easier to own a gun under your plan.


Well, since you went there, gun ownership is constitutionally protected. Pet ownership isn't. So... yeah. Reasons.


Service animals are also protected and regulated by the ADA. You just don't like it.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 22:11     Subject: People who lie about service animals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One aspect of emotional support/fake service animal issue that's especially problematic to me is that people (including here) are focusing mostly on dogs, but there's a slippery slope where other, less innocuous animals are presented as ESAs, which could pose a public safety threat. Take, for example, the ESA that's an alligator: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-says-emotional-support-alligator-known-big-social-media-audience-g-rcna150426.


Dogs and cats are also a safety risk. Some people have allergies and shouldn’t be forced to sit near them or on a seat that they have touched. Also dogs can bite. We just need to regulate all of them.


General dog/cat/whatever ownership license and permit, including passing a test that says you understand the basics of care and keeping of the animal(s), plus mandatory proof of insurance covering anything your pet may get up to (bites, destruction of property, etc.). Severe financial penalties for being out-of-compliance or violating animal control code/legal restrictions in your area. Funds used to pay animal control officers, upgrade and maintain shelters, and provide public education on pet ownership.

Special permit required for "service animal" showing need and specifically-trained tasks animal is trained to perform. Permit is free, but proof is mandatory.


We'll get right on this. It's easier to own a gun under your plan.


Well, since you went there, gun ownership is constitutionally protected. Pet ownership isn't. So... yeah. Reasons.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 21:52     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals

Anonymous wrote:No solution, but three years ago a woman had a service dog on the plane - we all debark. I stop to check my phone, then push on with my luggage. Catch up to the woman and her dog and it is taking a huge dump in the airport. How can that be a service dog? My so not service, poorly behaved rescue dog would NEVER sh*t inside.


Debark 😂
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 19:36     Subject: People who lie about service animals

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One aspect of emotional support/fake service animal issue that's especially problematic to me is that people (including here) are focusing mostly on dogs, but there's a slippery slope where other, less innocuous animals are presented as ESAs, which could pose a public safety threat. Take, for example, the ESA that's an alligator: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-says-emotional-support-alligator-known-big-social-media-audience-g-rcna150426.


Dogs and cats are also a safety risk. Some people have allergies and shouldn’t be forced to sit near them or on a seat that they have touched. Also dogs can bite. We just need to regulate all of them.


PP you're replying to and I didn't say dogs and cats AREN'T a safety risk, just that there are animals that are inherently dangerous and because dogs and cats have been given a pass as ESAs, people have become more emboldened to subject the public to those more dangerous animals.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 18:43     Subject: People who lie about service animals

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Anonymous wrote:This is why socialism, communism and progressivism are always failures. They are too low IQ to account for human ability and nature to bend, expand and redefine rules into a sloppy, slovenly and somewhat smelly affair. Support animal meant a dog with a handle for a blind person. Now you're in an airplane seated next to a coyote. Only stupid people with the wisdom of a fruitfly push for those regressive and misery inducing philosophies.




You are an unhinged moron.

This has nothing to do with politics, least of all communism or socialism FFS.

And I don't like dogs being everywhere and people faking that they are service animals.

of course it does...politics is not just about who controls decision making, but also about finding ways for everyone to get along and how to resolve differences.


Nope, that's not politics, you moron. That's culture.


where were you during covid?


and sorry, I should add, I guess it depends on where you live. I live in Mont Co MD which is run by socialists who like to control social behavior. Mayhaps you live in a more liberal place that allows more liberty.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2025 17:17     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals

Anonymous wrote:People who lie about service animals should have their animals impounded and pay severe fines.

They screw it up for the people who have properly-trained animals who perform important services.



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