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Anonymous wrote:I am not Kirk's fan but he does have some good points about not going to college and racking up student loans debt. Several of my family members attended Ivies as full-pay, majored in social studies and graduated with 300K of student loans. They are social workers and are on a income payment plan.

College is not for everyone.

This is why families have been crying for Congress to DO something about the college loan crisis.

Shameful Charlie Kirk is telling kids to skip college. He should be pushing Congress to address funding college or lowering interest rates instead. What a jerk.

College isn't for every kid.

People who espose that it is the only option are not being honest.

There is honor and dignity in enlisting in the military to delay college, entering into the skilled trades, going into beauty fields, going right into a job from high school, developing marketable skills like computer skills outside of college, various technicians and nursing assistance, office workers, becoming a policeman or firefighter, and other paths that don't involve a university education.

Heck, there is dignity and worth if you are a garbage collector, janitor or burger flipper, if you do it with pride and effort.

Not every kid should attend college. Some should wait a few years, and others should go on other paths.

What I have noticed at my kids' high performing nova high school is that the kids who should be on other paths often end up lost in the shuffle, because the focus is almost solely on going to a 4 year university. There are no longer trades classes at our school, so they just mentally check out and get almost nothing ftom school, or their parents have to fight every day all four years to get them to graduation. We have to get back to a balance for the kids who aren't really college bound, so they are set up for success on an alternate path instead of failure.

Charlie Kirk is not a firefighter. He is a deceitful propagandist.

Police Officers not having college degrees is a huge reason why USA police officers are the worst in the developed world.

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Anonymous wrote:My 2 teen sons (DC schools) live Charlie Kirk.

And frankly the more I listen to him, the more I do too.

This is the danger people like him pose. The Kirks and JD Vances and such are intelligent and articulate. And they adeptly conceal their underbellies.
They say things that on the surface or on their own sound quite reasonable. It's the parts of their beliefs and agendas that they DON'T say that are the problem.
"Very fine people."

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Anonymous wrote:My 2 teen sons (DC schools) live Charlie Kirk.

And frankly the more I listen to him, the more I do too.

What are his best arguments about college and what are the biggest flaws in his arguments about college?

PP again. I don’t know. I’ve never heard Kirk speak about this topic. I just like his conservative, religious, pro- American stance.

Then who needs college. Because not getting a college education is conservative, religious and pro-american? Okay sure. That makes so much sense.

That'll be news to all the Catholic colleges in America. lol.

Catholicism isn't really a part of the conservative Christians. They use the Catholics when it's convenient - like overturning Roe v Wade. But the Catholics will be the next on their list to condemn and discriminate against once they don't need them anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait til he discovers Bronze Age Mindset

Hahaha, OP would probably die and lock her child away in a room with no internet connection for life.

Anonymous wrote:Wait til he discovers Bronze Age Mindset

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Kirk's fan but he does have some good points about not going to college and racking up student loans debt. Several of my family members attended Ivies as full-pay, majored in social studies and graduated with 300K of student loans. They are social workers and are on a income payment plan.

College is not for everyone.

This is why families have been crying for Congress to DO something about the college loan crisis.

Shameful Charlie Kirk is telling kids to skip college. He should be pushing Congress to address funding college or lowering interest rates instead. What a jerk.

College isn't for every kid.

People who espose that it is the only option are not being honest.

There is honor and dignity in enlisting in the military to delay college, entering into the skilled trades, going into beauty fields, going right into a job from high school, developing marketable skills like computer skills outside of college, various technicians and nursing assistance, office workers, becoming a policeman or firefighter, and other paths that don't involve a university education.

Heck, there is dignity and worth if you are a garbage collector, janitor or burger flipper, if you do it with pride and effort.

Not every kid should attend college. Some should wait a few years, and others should go on other paths.

What I have noticed at my kids' high performing nova high school is that the kids who should be on other paths often end up lost in the shuffle, because the focus is almost solely on going to a 4 year university. There are no longer trades classes at our school, so they just mentally check out and get almost nothing ftom school, or their parents have to fight every day all four years to get them to graduation. We have to get back to a balance for the kids who aren't really college bound, so they are set up for success on an alternate path instead of failure.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Kirk's fan but he does have some good points about not going to college and racking up student loans debt. Several of my family members attended Ivies as full-pay, majored in social studies and graduated with 300K of student loans. They are social workers and are on a income payment plan.

College is not for everyone.

I went to an Ivy and zero of my classmates are social workers. And none majored in "social studies" -- are you confusing the Ivys with a high school with vines on it?

Even if true, the Ivies have incredible financial aid, if they were full pay then their parents could have afforded the tuition but chose to saddle them with loans. I'm sure they'll be fine.

Seems unlikely. So they are Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania, Princeton University, and Yale University.
Here are a few, you can look at the rest yourself.
"social studies" at Harvard:
Social Sciences
Business administration and management*
Economics**
Government
History
International relations
Psychology

Yale: https://admissions.yale.edu/majors-and-academic-programs
Princeton: https://odoc.princeton.edu/learning-curriculum/majors-minors
Sociology is the only thing close to "social studies"

Anonymous wrote:You’re an educated (I’m assuming) adult. This is an easy conversation to open with your son- you don’t even need the soliloquies on the power of education, though it is important.

Charlie Kirk and the conservative co are interested in the optics of pragmatism. Statistically, you will earn more if you go to college. It’s the pragmatic choice. Kirk also…went to college, a pretty damned good one, and he’s pretty damned successful for someone who got caught in a “scam.”

Anonymous wrote:That's fantastic! Your son is clearly smarter than you and willing to research all sides of a issue. Try learning something from him.

Anonymous wrote:Your freshman son's dive into Charlie Kirk isn't a shock; it's a sign of awakening. Instead of being dismayed, celebrate his critical thinking and engage with his college alternatives—trade schools, entrepreneurship, or even starting a movement.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t let your kids read conservative stuff!! It’s filled with common sense & practical solutions!!

The daily parade of incompetence and stupidity of this administration would suggest otherwise.

Why was this bunch of allegedly stupid people able to close the same border your moron left wide open?

Yep. The same ones demonstrating their disdain for the Constitution, for the laws of the US, for the non-white billionaires of the world. The same ones cozying up to foreign dictators and callously treating our friendships. The same ones who can't put together cohesive non--hypocritical arguments or policy positions. The same ones who can't define habeus corpus and who don't know what their own organizations are even doing. The same ones who lie, lie, lie and suck-up, suck-up, suck-up.

Closing the border does not prove competence.
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