Anonymous
07/14/2025 18:40
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Test scores certainly plummeted since the Dept of Education was instituted.
Question for those who know - Did states test their students prior to the establishment of the DOE?
Did it even matter to most back in let’s say, the late 1800s, if you made it past the 8th grade, as long as you could read your paycheck and the Bible? It mattered if you were from a well-off educated family of course, but for the unwashed masses, literacy was a nice thing to aim for if you didn’t have to get to work by age 10.
NWEA testing started before the Department of Education existed as a separate entity from Health, Education, and Welfare. It doesn't show test scores "plummeting" though: https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/ltt/?age=9
Anonymous
07/14/2025 18:00
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.
Mississipi has drastically improved their reading scores by following the science of reading philosophy several years ago while the Dept of Education has been promoting balanced literacy for years and years up until the past year.
According to the Nations Report Card https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=RED&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3 in reading for 4th grade on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) the average score for 4th grade reading was 214. Mississippi's 4th graders were tied for 7th at 219. Maryland was at 216.
Highest scores:
Massachusetts 225
Wyoming 222
New Jersey 222
New Hampshire 221
Colorado 221
Indiana 220
Utah 219
Connecticut 219
Mississippi 219
Florida 218
Kentucky 218
Lowest scores:
Arkansas 210
Maine 210
Delaware 210
District of Columbia 209
Michigan 209
Arizona 208
Oklahoma 207
Oregon 207
West Virginia 206
Alaska 202
New Mexico 201
In Math for 4th graders the average score was 237. Mississippi's score (239) was higher than Maryland's score (234). Maryland was below the average.
This is actually quite remarkable since Mississippi has a high percentage of black kids. Most of the high scoring states in that list have very few black students. Mississippi and Florida must be doing some things right to still have decent average test scores despite a large black population.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:54
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hate Trump, but we already have a slave class due to student loans. The Educstion department has failed higher education. It is probably more useful with primary and secondary education.
Many US students take out $20-30-40k of FED LOANS over the course of their education that they dutifully pay back. The media focuses on crazy stories with students graduating $100 in debt (prob private debt) but the average FED LOAN student loan debt in 2024 was $38k. I graduated with more than that 30 years prior and paid off every dime while buying a house, raising a kid, paying taxes, etc. That money was the difference between me going to college or not. This issue is more nuanced tjan you seem to think. Maybe you should go after private loans?
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:52
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.
Mississipi has drastically improved their reading scores by following the science of reading philosophy several years ago while the Dept of Education has been promoting balanced literacy for years and years up until the past year.
According to the Nations Report Card https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=RED&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3 in reading for 4th grade on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) the average score for 4th grade reading was 214. Mississippi's 4th graders were tied for 7th at 219. Maryland was at 216.
Highest scores:
Massachusetts 225
Wyoming 222
New Jersey 222
New Hampshire 221
Colorado 221
Indiana 220
Utah 219
Connecticut 219
Mississippi 219
Florida 218
Kentucky 218
Lowest scores:
Arkansas 210
Maine 210
Delaware 210
District of Columbia 209
Michigan 209
Arizona 208
Oklahoma 207
Oregon 207
West Virginia 206
Alaska 202
New Mexico 201
In Math for 4th graders the average score was 237. Mississippi's score (239) was higher than Maryland's score (234). Maryland was below the average.
So then it looks like we should all welcome lower school taxes. Is Mississippi just proving we’re all spending too much in wealthier states?
I would love to see per pupil expenditures adjusted for teachers cost of living by state.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:43
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Test scores certainly plummeted since the Dept of Education was instituted.
Those lower scores are partly due to the fact that we now try to educate, evaluate, and support all children. Ma y of them used to remain at home, lived in institutions, dropped out of school, or were not tested for academic progress
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:40
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS provides no reasoning for dismantling the US Department of education, a congressionally chartered agency.
We live in an autocracy now.
I mean, there is a legal way to do this, which is to propose legislation to repeal the act that created the agency in the first place. But no, just use federalist society judges to just eliminating without any legal justification.
Yep, no explanation. No law. Just doing the bidding of their fellow partisans. No one wonder no one trusts them.
They only lifted a stay. The merits of the case have yet to be decided.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:37
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Test scores certainly plummeted since the Dept of Education was instituted.
Question for those who know - Did states test their students prior to the establishment of the DOE?
Did it even matter to most back in let’s say, the late 1800s, if you made it past the 8th grade, as long as you could read your paycheck and the Bible? It mattered if you were from a well-off educated family of course, but for the unwashed masses, literacy was a nice thing to aim for if you didn’t have to get to work by age 10.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:28
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Test scores certainly plummeted since the Dept of Education was instituted.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:23
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.
Mississipi has drastically improved their reading scores by following the science of reading philosophy several years ago while the Dept of Education has been promoting balanced literacy for years and years up until the past year.
According to the Nations Report Card https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=RED&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3 in reading for 4th grade on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) the average score for 4th grade reading was 214. Mississippi's 4th graders were tied for 7th at 219. Maryland was at 216.
Highest scores:
Massachusetts 225
Wyoming 222
New Jersey 222
New Hampshire 221
Colorado 221
Indiana 220
Utah 219
Connecticut 219
Mississippi 219
Florida 218
Kentucky 218
Lowest scores:
Arkansas 210
Maine 210
Delaware 210
District of Columbia 209
Michigan 209
Arizona 208
Oklahoma 207
Oregon 207
West Virginia 206
Alaska 202
New Mexico 201
In Math for 4th graders the average score was 237. Mississippi's score (239) was higher than Maryland's score (234). Maryland was below the average.
So then it looks like we should all welcome lower school taxes. Is Mississippi just proving we’re all spending too much in wealthier states?
We need to cut the red states off from the sweet blue state welfare. We need to make the blue states great again.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:20
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Our enemies are in giggling fits.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:18
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.
Mississipi has drastically improved their reading scores by following the science of reading philosophy several years ago while the Dept of Education has been promoting balanced literacy for years and years up until the past year.
According to the Nations Report Card https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=RED&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3 in reading for 4th grade on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) the average score for 4th grade reading was 214. Mississippi's 4th graders were tied for 7th at 219. Maryland was at 216.
Highest scores:
Massachusetts 225
Wyoming 222
New Jersey 222
New Hampshire 221
Colorado 221
Indiana 220
Utah 219
Connecticut 219
Mississippi 219
Florida 218
Kentucky 218
Lowest scores:
Arkansas 210
Maine 210
Delaware 210
District of Columbia 209
Michigan 209
Arizona 208
Oklahoma 207
Oregon 207
West Virginia 206
Alaska 202
New Mexico 201
In Math for 4th graders the average score was 237. Mississippi's score (239) was higher than Maryland's score (234). Maryland was below the average.
So then it looks like we should all welcome lower school taxes. Is Mississippi just proving we’re all spending too much in wealthier states?
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:12
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS provides no reasoning for dismantling the US Department of education, a congressionally chartered agency.
We live in an autocracy now.
I mean, there is a legal way to do this, which is to propose legislation to repeal the act that created the agency in the first place. But no, just use federalist society judges to just eliminating without any legal justification.
The Russians have to be absolutely laughing their asses off.
Yep, no explanation. No law. Just doing the bidding of their fellow partisans. No one wonder no one trusts them.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 17:06
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.
Mississipi has drastically improved their reading scores by following the science of reading philosophy several years ago while the Dept of Education has been promoting balanced literacy for years and years up until the past year.
According to the Nations Report Card https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=RED&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3 in reading for 4th grade on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) the average score for 4th grade reading was 214. Mississippi's 4th graders were tied for 7th at 219. Maryland was at 216.
Highest scores:
Massachusetts 225
Wyoming 222
New Jersey 222
New Hampshire 221
Colorado 221
Indiana 220
Utah 219
Connecticut 219
Mississippi 219
Florida 218
Kentucky 218
Lowest scores:
Arkansas 210
Maine 210
Delaware 210
District of Columbia 209
Michigan 209
Arizona 208
Oklahoma 207
Oregon 207
West Virginia 206
Alaska 202
New Mexico 201
In Math for 4th graders the average score was 237. Mississippi's score (239) was higher than Maryland's score (234). Maryland was below the average.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 16:55
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS provides no reasoning for dismantling the US Department of education, a congressionally chartered agency.
We live in an autocracy now.
I mean, there is a legal way to do this, which is to propose legislation to repeal the act that created the agency in the first place. But no, just use federalist society judges to just eliminating without any legal justification.
Yep, no explanation. No law. Just doing the bidding of their fellow partisans. No one wonder no one trusts them.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 16:43
Subject: Department of Education going back to work
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another Trump failure.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-bid-dismantle-152410785.html
Another Trump win.
Three Cheers for President Trump!!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!
Trump! Trump! Hooray!!
TRUMP! TRUMP!! HOORAY!!!
Clap! Clap! Clap!
Yes! We can finally cultivate a large, uneducated slave class to work in mines and factories! And even if OSHA is still alive, they won’t be able to read the safety rules and regs!
Three cheers!!
Hysterical much?
Dept of Education has always provided little value.
Not if you’re in a dirt poor state at the bottom of the rankings. Do Louisiana and Mississippi have the same school taxes as NJ, Maryland and Massachusetts? Good northeastern school districts will survive this. Places without a base of high warning property owners are screwed, unless the wealthy in their state want to pony up money to educate the poor.
LOL, that won't happen. This is just the re-establishment of segregation and tax payer funded Christian schools.
Yep, and maybe the teachers will get back the right to slap kids' hands with rulers again because it builds character.