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Anonymous wrote:Trump as president and an American pope is giving end times antichrist and false prophet.

I had the same thought! Good vs evil

Who is the good one? Who is the evil one?

Well, which one is a good Samaritan, helps the poor, comforts the lowly, and welcomes the immigrant? I think you have your answer as to who is good.

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He is more conservative than Francis in some ways, but he’s very much against the current administration’s actions.

Now someone ask the new Pope his thoughts on transgender ideology and abortion. He likely agrees with Vance on those.

DP. I don’t get this rationale. He is a different religion and has the views of that religion. That’s not some sort of gotcha.

The point is that people are trying to say he is liberal and totally different from Vance, but he isn't. There is no gotcha but there is no great victory either. being on the side of the poor and immigrants is normal for a Pope so it's not surprising he doesn't agree with Vance and Trump on that. He is less liberal than Francis in terms of social issues.

This. To suggest he's more liberal than Vance and that he's 100% more moral than the 2 idiots of T and V is not saying much. We are talking about the antiChrist and his number 2. I mean seriously? That's a low bar for a comparison of morals. I'm going to suggest that 99% of the Cardinals would fit this description of being better people than T and V.

However, if you strip down beliefs and policies, Francis was undoubtedly one of the most liberal Catholics and Popes in recent memory. I mean he chose the name of Francis, a saint. Leo is a pope's name. Not saying Leo was a bad pope but just saying, he's going to be somewhat conservative. He does not believe women have any rights to engage in the Vatican hierarchy which to me is very non-progressive. I can't get down with organized religion because at it's heart, I don't believe it's sincerely true to the acceptance that Christ stood for. I'm very spiritual and believe faith is extremely important. Francis was the first pope that turned me toward the Church. Leo will not be able to do that. He is 100% not as liberal as Francis - how conservative he will be remains to be seen.

Just saying that it's not hard to be more liberal than T and V at all

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares. For those of you who hate Trump it's not like this guy is going to replace him or force him to change his policies. The Biden admin fetishized abortion under the watch of a good Irish Catholic boy from Scranton. Didn't see Francis making any inroads to stop it.

JD Vance, for one.

Evangelics circling the drain of relevancy, kicking and screaming the entire way down, down, down.

Pack lightly, warm weather expected!

Lol

JD Vance is a fake catholic. You should listen to him explain why he converted to Catholicism from Protestant Christianity. It’s quite obvious it was because the conservative legal thought leaders are disproportionately catholic. He really just becomes whoever he needs to be in the moment for power.

However, I agree with Vance, I feel it is more Christian to prioritize your family than someone else. If the pope feels it should be the opposite, I disagree with that position.

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He is more conservative than Francis in some ways, but he’s very much against the current administration’s actions.

Now someone ask the new Pope his thoughts on transgender ideology and abortion. He likely agrees with Vance on those.

DP. I don’t get this rationale. He is a different religion and has the views of that religion. That’s not some sort of gotcha.

The point is that people are trying to say he is liberal and totally different from Vance, but he isn't. There is no gotcha but there is no great victory either. being on the side of the poor and immigrants is normal for a Pope so it's not surprising he doesn't agree with Vance and Trump on that. He is less liberal than Francis in terms of social issues.

I think it’s kind of the opposite. I think that the US is seen as the main dominating force in world affairs and setting the culture of the world and so it’s hoped that by selecting a pope from America, we will be more likely to follow him and fall in line, and the world will follow us.

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He is more conservative than Francis in some ways, but he’s very much against the current administration’s actions.

Now someone ask the new Pope his thoughts on transgender ideology and abortion. He likely agrees with Vance on those.

DP. I don’t get this rationale. He is a different religion and has the views of that religion. That’s not some sort of gotcha.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares. For those of you who hate Trump it's not like this guy is going to replace him or force him to change his policies. The Biden admin fetishized abortion under the watch of a good Irish Catholic boy from Scranton. Didn't see Francis making any inroads to stop it.

JD Vance, for one.

Evangelics circling the drain of relevancy, kicking and screaming the entire way down, down, down.

Pack lightly, warm weather expected!

Lol

JD Vance is a fake catholic. You should listen to him explain why he converted to Catholicism from Protestant Christianity. It’s quite obvious it was because the conservative legal thought leaders are disproportionately catholic. He really just becomes whoever he needs to be in the moment for power.

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Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.

I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?

No. It is largely understood that the US would never produce a pope until it was no longer the top power.

Gotta put some sorta spin on it, I guess.

YAWN.

I have never heard this in my life, relationship of US as a power and the choice of a pope. Where is the separation of church and state in this theory? I really dislike when religious leaders, ie the pope, force their views into politics; it is similar to celebrities getting involved in politics - they don't live in reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares. For those of you who hate Trump it's not like this guy is going to replace him or force him to change his policies. The Biden admin fetishized abortion under the watch of a good Irish Catholic boy from Scranton. Didn't see Francis making any inroads to stop it.

GTFO, no one fetishized abortion. Your hyperbole is disgusting.

+1

The mobile abortion clinic outside of the DNC was a nice touch.

They were there to provide all kinds of medical care, not simply abortions. But I know that does not feed into your fantasy

They were there to provide free medication abortions, vasectomies and emergency contraception. Don't act like they were doing chronic disease management or other care - stop feeding your own fantasy.

Is that not other medical care? Do you not believe in preventing unwanted pregnancies?

+1 sorry, what is wrong with vasectomies? IMO, more men should have them. We'd have less unwanted children, and so less need for abortions.

Catholics don’t kill their unborn babies.

That's right. They kill them after they are born.

Yes. Church run mammy and baby homes and orphanages are horror houses
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/9-000-children-died-irish-mother-baby-homes-report-finds-n1253862

I'm PP. One of my relatives died in a Catholic orphanage. The abuse in orphanages was horrific.

https://childusa.org/how-vermont-handled-abuse-at-catholic-st-josephs-orphanage/

Trump sees this as a great honor having an American pope. I’m sure he’s taking credit for it.

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Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.

I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?

LOL...get off Fox.

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He is more conservative than Francis in some ways, but he’s very much against the current administration’s actions.

Now someone ask the new Pope his thoughts on transgender ideology and abortion. He likely agrees with Vance on those.

and?

And what? It was a response to PP's statement that the Pope is against this administration's actions. On immigration, yes and probably SNAP and housing assistance changes but this administration and the catholic Church are lockstep on certain things.

the Catholic church is way behind on reproductive rights and women's rights. But it is the Catholic church. They move at a snail's pace in terms of making progress in that regard.

It remains true that this is not a conservative Pope. He has ministered to the poor and stood up for poor migrants as Jesus instructed us all to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares. For those of you who hate Trump it's not like this guy is going to replace him or force him to change his policies. The Biden admin fetishized abortion under the watch of a good Irish Catholic boy from Scranton. Didn't see Francis making any inroads to stop it.

GTFO, no one fetishized abortion. Your hyperbole is disgusting.

+1

The mobile abortion clinic outside of the DNC was a nice touch.

They were there to provide all kinds of medical care, not simply abortions. But I know that does not feed into your fantasy

They were there to provide free medication abortions, vasectomies and emergency contraception. Don't act like they were doing chronic disease management or other care - stop feeding your own fantasy.

Is that not other medical care? Do you not believe in preventing unwanted pregnancies?

+1 sorry, what is wrong with vasectomies? IMO, more men should have them. We'd have less unwanted children, and so less need for abortions.

Catholics don’t kill their unborn babies.

That's right. They kill them after they are born.

Yes. Church run mammy and baby homes and orphanages are horror houses
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/9-000-children-died-irish-mother-baby-homes-report-finds-n1253862

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Anonymous wrote:

He is more conservative than Francis in some ways, but he’s very much against the current administration’s actions.

Now someone ask the new Pope his thoughts on transgender ideology and abortion. He likely agrees with Vance on those.

and?

And what? It was a response to PP's statement that the Pope is against this administration's actions. On immigration, yes and probably SNAP and housing assistance changes but this administration and the catholic Church are lockstep on certain things.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares. For those of you who hate Trump it's not like this guy is going to replace him or force him to change his policies. The Biden admin fetishized abortion under the watch of a good Irish Catholic boy from Scranton. Didn't see Francis making any inroads to stop it.

GTFO, no one fetishized abortion. Your hyperbole is disgusting.

+1

The mobile abortion clinic outside of the DNC was a nice touch.

They were there to provide all kinds of medical care, not simply abortions. But I know that does not feed into your fantasy

They were there to provide free medication abortions, vasectomies and emergency contraception. Don't act like they were doing chronic disease management or other care - stop feeding your own fantasy.

Is that not other medical care? Do you not believe in preventing unwanted pregnancies?

DP. You can’t be serious with this.

What is wrong with what I said?