Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Whether it's nature or nurture, it's still not wrong to say intelligence is on the mother. That may be a statement of an unfair reality, but still a statement of reality. (Maybe saying "intelligence is thanks to the mother" would be kinder?)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Correlated yes, but not inherited more strongly than the father IQ.
It does make some sense as in general children spend more time with mothers than fathers.
It’s the nurture vs nature argument.
Yes, it is still wrong. Intelligence is complex, multidimensional, and derived from many sources, including environmental. There are some genes related to brain development related to the X chromosome, but that’s about the extent of it.
Source?
https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/traits/intelligence/
https://davissciencesays.ucdavis.edu/blog/does-intelligence-really-come-our-mothers
From the first link:
"Studies have shown that intelligence has a genetic component, but they have not conclusively identified any single genes that have major roles in differences in intelligence. It is likely that intelligence involves many genes that each make only a small contribution to a person’s intelligence", which doesn't refute the claim that IQ is strongly correlated with maternal IQ. The second link doesn't refute that claim, either, instead talking about disabilities(?)
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3114203/#:~:text=In%20population%2Dbased%20studies%2C%20maternal,environmental%20factors%20affecting%20the%20child.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Whether it's nature or nurture, it's still not wrong to say intelligence is on the mother. That may be a statement of an unfair reality, but still a statement of reality. (Maybe saying "intelligence is thanks to the mother" would be kinder?)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Correlated yes, but not inherited more strongly than the father IQ.
It does make some sense as in general children spend more time with mothers than fathers.
It’s the nurture vs nature argument.
Yes, it is still wrong. Intelligence is complex, multidimensional, and derived from many sources, including environmental. There are some genes related to brain development related to the X chromosome, but that’s about the extent of it.
Source?
https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/traits/intelligence/
https://davissciencesays.ucdavis.edu/blog/does-intelligence-really-come-our-mothers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Whether it's nature or nurture, it's still not wrong to say intelligence is on the mother. That may be a statement of an unfair reality, but still a statement of reality. (Maybe saying "intelligence is thanks to the mother" would be kinder?)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Correlated yes, but not inherited more strongly than the father IQ.
It does make some sense as in general children spend more time with mothers than fathers.
It’s the nurture vs nature argument.
Yes, it is still wrong. Intelligence is complex, multidimensional, and derived from many sources, including environmental. There are some genes related to brain development related to the X chromosome, but that’s about the extent of it.
Source?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t really know. We didn’t supplement at all until the pandemic- when we had to homeschool. Kids were in 3rd and 4th grade then. Up until then they always tested 90-99+ percentile in math though. Once we had to homeschool school and actually teach math, they took odd. We continued their home math lessons once school went back in person and they finished precalc at the end of 8th grade.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Whether it's nature or nurture, it's still not wrong to say intelligence is on the mother. That may be a statement of an unfair reality, but still a statement of reality. (Maybe saying "intelligence is thanks to the mother" would be kinder?)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Correlated yes, but not inherited more strongly than the father IQ.
It does make some sense as in general children spend more time with mothers than fathers.
It’s the nurture vs nature argument.
Yes, it is still wrong. Intelligence is complex, multidimensional, and derived from many sources, including environmental. There are some genes related to brain development related to the X chromosome, but that’s about the extent of it.
Anonymous wrote:Whether it's nature or nurture, it's still not wrong to say intelligence is on the mother. That may be a statement of an unfair reality, but still a statement of reality. (Maybe saying "intelligence is thanks to the mother" would be kinder?)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Correlated yes, but not inherited more strongly than the father IQ.
It does make some sense as in general children spend more time with mothers than fathers.
It’s the nurture vs nature argument.
Studies control for the IQs of both parents.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Kids’ IQs are actually related to both. However, plenty of high IQ men will marry dumb women. High IQ women will usually only marry smart men though. So practically speaking, the IQ of the kid is linked with the IQ of the mother in the sense that it’s rare for a smart kid to have a dumb mother.
In my own life, I know two families of very high IQ kids, and they both have very high IQ mothers too.
Whether it's nature or nurture, it's still not wrong to say intelligence is on the mother. That may be a statement of an unfair reality, but still a statement of reality. (Maybe saying "intelligence is thanks to the mother" would be kinder?)Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Correlated yes, but not inherited more strongly than the father IQ.
It does make some sense as in general children spend more time with mothers than fathers.
It’s the nurture vs nature argument.
Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Anonymous wrote:It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
It's true though. Child IQ is more strongly correlated with mother's IQ than father'sAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly innate iq and innate math ability. Twin and adoption studies prove this. Either your brain has it or it doesn’t. Pick your breeding partners wisely.
I tried. My DH was a math major at an Ivy League school, but my kids are average in math.
Sorry to be the bearer of the news but intelligence is most often on the mother— not the father.
Can you stop perpetuating this myth, thanks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This really depends on what age and grade you’re talking about. Mine is in 2nd and is doing 4th grade math. Which sounds impressive sure, until you realize this just means he can add and subtract 3 and 4 digit numbers instead of 1 and 2 digit numbers, and can multiply/divide singles. He knows area, perimeter, and large numbers which are all easily picked up. And he knows about money and how to make change, but only because he actually gets a cash allowance and buys things with cash. He can use a ruler and watch, practical life tools. I’m sure all of the above is normal and expected of average children in many other countries.
It’s more impressive if you talking about a 7th grader completing Algebra and Geometry before 8th. I’m not sure what kids do between 4th-6th to make this happen. Math at our school is mind numbingly slow. 2nd grade math was just a review of 1st grade.
This spot on. There just isn’t a big jump from 2nd to 4th. The more important thing is that kids advanced at an early age have more time to develop number sense and solidly skills.
But any kid that complete Beast Academy by the end of 4th/start of 5th will be easily 2-3 years ahead of on just on grade level classmates. This doesn’t mean that they need to enroll in say, pre algebra in 5th, but they could.
Anonymous wrote:This really depends on what age and grade you’re talking about. Mine is in 2nd and is doing 4th grade math. Which sounds impressive sure, until you realize this just means he can add and subtract 3 and 4 digit numbers instead of 1 and 2 digit numbers, and can multiply/divide singles. He knows area, perimeter, and large numbers which are all easily picked up. And he knows about money and how to make change, but only because he actually gets a cash allowance and buys things with cash. He can use a ruler and watch, practical life tools. I’m sure all of the above is normal and expected of average children in many other countries.
It’s more impressive if you talking about a 7th grader completing Algebra and Geometry before 8th. I’m not sure what kids do between 4th-6th to make this happen. Math at our school is mind numbingly slow. 2nd grade math was just a review of 1st grade.