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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

She’s a grown a## adult and not a political prisoner. No one can force her to go to Greenland. Now, there might be consequences for saying no. Okay, in Trumpland, there will be consequences. And it may be that she decided it was better to go than face them. But you don’t take the kid. Even if there are consequences. If she thinks this is going to be a warm reception and a fun day at the dog races, she’s a fool. And YLS grads who fast tracked not major firms are not fools.

I don't even think that's the case! Her husband is the second most powerful man in America, and Usha can't say "Oh, I'm sorry...I don't want to take my oldest out of school for that long and I don't even particularly want to go alone because it's the end of the school year and my other kids have a lot going on"?

Second? Maybe on paper.

He’s probably barely in the top ten in reality.

Lol. I did mean on paper so fair enough. I do agree in reality he's not even in the Top 10.

My point was more she is very smart and scrappy - she could easily come up with a lie to get her kid and herself out of this if she didn't want to. She wants to. My dime store therapist theory is that she finally feels like one of the popular girls who ignored her in school.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

Real talk though: wouldn't you take any possible opportunity to get away from JD? I would...

She's shady af, and problematic in her own right, but who wants to hang out with him if it's not absolutely mandatory?

Come on - she's not Melanie here. We have no reason to believe she is anything but deeply in love and committed to this dismal man and administration.

Amy Chu arranged this marriage to create a power couple. And was successful. Amy Chu is not about, “there is this guy who you would really love”. She’s about 1+1=3– creating matches stronger than the sum of their parts.

Amy Chu may have designed this couple getting together but have you seen one shred of evidence that Usha isn't all in? She doesn't look like she's doing this against her will. She looks like she's doing this very much because she wants to.

Also WHY ARE WE PICKING FIGHTS WITH GREENLAND AND CANADA?!

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

She’s a grown a## adult and not a political prisoner. No one can force her to go to Greenland. Now, there might be consequences for saying no. Okay, in Trumpland, there will be consequences. And it may be that she decided it was better to go than face them. But you don’t take the kid. Even if there are consequences. If she thinks this is going to be a warm reception and a fun day at the dog races, she’s a fool. And YLS grads who fast tracked not major firms are not fools.

I don't even think that's the case! Her husband is the second most powerful man in America, and Usha can't say "Oh, I'm sorry...I don't want to take my oldest out of school for that long and I don't even particularly want to go alone because it's the end of the school year and my other kids have a lot going on"?

Second? Maybe on paper.

He’s probably barely in the top ten in reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

She’s a grown a## adult and not a political prisoner. No one can force her to go to Greenland. Now, there might be consequences for saying no. Okay, in Trumpland, there will be consequences. And it may be that she decided it was better to go than face them. But you don’t take the kid. Even if there are consequences. If she thinks this is going to be a warm reception and a fun day at the dog races, she’s a fool. And YLS grads who fast tracked not major firms are not fools.

I don't even think that's the case! Her husband is the second most powerful man in America, and Usha can't say "Oh, I'm sorry...I don't want to take my oldest out of school for that long and I don't even particularly want to go alone because it's the end of the school year and my other kids have a lot going on"?

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

Real talk though: wouldn't you take any possible opportunity to get away from JD? I would...

She's shady af, and problematic in her own right, but who wants to hang out with him if it's not absolutely mandatory?

I mean…she married the guy. I really have no sympathy for her.

+1. When you let Amy Chu arrange your marriage— at Yale Law School, FFS- you should go in with open eyes and clear head. She isn’t a victim here. The marriage was transactional, and presumably she is getting something out of the marriage.

Exactly. I condensed your quote a little bit but this really sums it up for me. This is a transactional marriage for them both.

Usha has basically nothing going for her that would lead to power by her own merit in modern conservative politics. She is painfully average looking and has absolutely no charisma or star power. I said in another thread that at the Kennedy Center board meeting last week, she sat off in the back looking terrified and meek while the other women were all front and center. She just would not make it in politics on her own. Full stop. I don't doubt that she's smart and hard working but that's not enough in the modern GOP.

JD was not particularly handsome when he was younger, and he comes from a very rough background. It would've been hard for him to find a wife willing to accept his daddy issues and meth head family members.

I don't feel any sympathy for Usha and find the "Oh, well she's a friend of a friend of a friend so I feel bad for her :(" mentality prevalent among liberal white women to be very odd. She is the one who floated the idea of JD running for office to Megyn Kelly years ago. This was all her doing. She wants to be right here, riding his coattails, because she couldn't do it herself.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

These Usha posts are really bothering me because they seem very sexist in nature — if you don’t believe she has agency. All this “she’s conflicted” makes it seem like we are not in the 21st century in America. Look at Pam Bondi. She’s evil. I’d really like women to start actively understanding that these women have choices. We have choices.

+1. There are poor, uneducated, newly immigrated women with few choices and for whom leaving is almost a practical impossibility. A YLs grad has choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

Real talk though: wouldn't you take any possible opportunity to get away from JD? I would...

She's shady af, and problematic in her own right, but who wants to hang out with him if it's not absolutely mandatory?

Come on - she's not Melanie here. We have no reason to believe she is anything but deeply in love and committed to this dismal man and administration.

Amy Chu arranged this marriage to create a power couple. And was successful. Amy Chu is not about, “there is this guy who you would really love”. She’s about 1+1=3– creating matches stronger than the sum of their parts.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

These Usha posts are really bothering me because they seem very sexist in nature — if you don’t believe she has agency. All this “she’s conflicted” makes it seem like we are not in the 21st century in America. Look at Pam Bondi. She’s evil. I’d really like women to start actively understanding that these women have choices. We have choices.

I can believe Usha has agency and that’s she’s meaningless and has no real political power. Comparing her to the Attorney General is nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

She’s a grown a## adult and not a political prisoner. No one can force her to go to Greenland. Now, there might be consequences for saying no. Okay, in Trumpland, there will be consequences. And it may be that she decided it was better to go than face them. But you don’t take the kid. Even if there are consequences. If she thinks this is going to be a warm reception and a fun day at the dog races, she’s a fool. And YLS grads who fast tracked not major firms are not fools.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

They should. Why would they welcome government officials from a country threatening to overtake them??

NSA is there to visit a US military base. If he’s denied entry, Trump might use force. And it would be at least partly justified. The NSA has at least a plausible excuse— visiting a military base Greenland allows to be there. Usha’s job is to “pretty it up”.

This. Greenland can't win. If they try to protect their borders, JD will whine that people are being mean to his kid who just wanted to go dog sledding. I can't recall any modern President or VP bringing their kid to a site of political conflict.

Worst spring break trip ever.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

They should. Why would they welcome government officials from a country threatening to overtake them??

NSA is there to visit a US military base. If he’s denied entry, Trump might use force. And it would be at least partly justified. The NSA has at least a plausible excuse— visiting a military base Greenland allows to be there. Usha’s job is to “pretty it up”.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

Because the IS has a military base there (space force!)

I do not care about first and second family member travel. It’s always happened and it should be diplomatic. I do care about her going at all in this specific case, and certainly while dragging a kid, to a country that is telling he not to come because it’s “highly aggressive”. That is not diplomacy. She shouldn’t go. And since there will be strong Anti-American protests in Greenland, she shouldn’t take the kid. That’s just decent parenting.

Was she ordered to go or is she fine with this? Who makes these kinds of decisions about where political spouses travel and what they do? Could she refuse this trip?

Real talk though: wouldn't you take any possible opportunity to get away from JD? I would...

She's shady af, and problematic in her own right, but who wants to hang out with him if it's not absolutely mandatory?

I mean…she married the guy. I really have no sympathy for her.

+1. When you let Amy Chu arrange your marriage— at Yale Law School, FFS- you should go in with open eyes and clear head. She isn’t a victim here. The marriage was transactional, and presumably she is getting something out of the marriage. 2nd lady is no small thing. So is the couch-humper with guyliner. And she has plenty of education and earning capacity. She could have left the marriage up to the point JD became the VP pick (after that, I’m assuming MAGA would doxx and SWAT the he11 out of her and endanger her kids and Trump would go full mob boss, except now we do whack families). She’s an ambitious woman who made a choice. I’m a reasonably ambitious woman but also grew up in a dysfunctional family and never would have made the choice she did. Having a stable, functional, harmonious family with two co-equal adults and parents was too important to me. I married the guy who runs carpools. And purposefully mommy tracked as a Fed attorney to be present for kids. That was my choice. Part of feminism is allowing women to make these choices for themselves. I get to make mine, she gets to make hers. But, I don’t get to whine that I’m not a senior partner at Skadden Arp. My choices prevented that. Her choices means she has to live with a sleeve guy. No sympathy, because no one forced her into this arrangement.

Also, if you must go, do not take a young child as a human shield/ excuse for complaining about protests in an unwelcoming environment. The President of Greenland has said very clearly she isn’t welcome. There will be protests. At the rate things are going, they may cancel the event to keep her away. Her decision to go, made in conjunction with the Trump Admin, is her prerogative as an adult. And she can deal with the fallout and protests. I think it’s a dumb move, because it makes Greenland less likely to cooperate the US on anything. And with global warming, it would be a good location for a new naval base and a port for ships using using new Arctic routes, amd that could be an actual accomplishment for the Trump Admin. I mean— a land war against NATO in Greenland. GMAFB.

But, taking a small kid into a hostile country is cra&&y parenting. So is Elon Musk dragging kid #7 out of 14 around as a human shield (because they happen to be the cutest and best behaved of the brood), while ignoring his other 13 kids (or saying they are dead because they are trans)— also gross. Props to political parents like the Clintons, Obamas and Bush 2 who did what they could to protect their minor kids from political cr@p. JD goes on and on about parenting, but you can tell he values having kids as a status thing, not the actual work f parenting kids to become healthy adults. Gross.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

They should. Why would they welcome government officials from a country threatening to overtake them??

Because Trump and Vance will take that as an "insult" and use that as an excuse to invade. It's upside down world right now as long as the USA doesn't agree to respect the borders of sovereign nations.

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t Greenland just deny their visas? Deny them entry. That would send a strong message.

They should. Why would they welcome government officials from a country threatening to overtake them??