Anonymous wrote:The Ansnwer is pretty simple as it has always been….please spare me the PUBLIC BS….

It is Ivies +

The + = Stanford, MIT, Caltech

The rest is irrelevant. Sure there are great schools in the “rest” category. But when the word os PRESTIGE, it is very simple as it has always been and as it will always be, no matter how many alums or moms around here want to scream UVA, DUKE, VANDY, NORTHWESTERN, CHICAGO….BLABLABLABLABLA

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Anonymous wrote:If "perceived" is the key word
Stanford
MIT
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Caltech

Above 6 for sure. Then take your pick out of:
Penn
Columbia
Williams
Hopkins
Duke

It seems Chicago, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Northwestern, Rice, Vanderbilt are a tiny tad below these above, but that's just perceptions in my local community

Clearly that community must be close to Duke….No other “community” would include DUKE in this list and remove Cornell….

As PPs have mentioned….Nobody outside of the US knows anything about Duke than its basketball program…..very simple…..

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame, Penn State and UNC are dream schools for some kids way beyond any IVY league.

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Anonymous wrote:Overseas, people only know MIT, Stanford and Harvard and maybe Berkeley.

- immigrant who has lived in many places

I doubt that. I never heard of MIT or Stanford as a child and I grew up in New York. Let alone in India or China.

But I knew Harvard, Columbia and NYU growing up. Our only rich neighbor the "Doctor's wife" sent her three kids to those three schools and we never heard the end of it.

This is some of the dumbest logic I’ve seen on this site. Why would you discredit his point (which is correct by the way) based upon your myopic viewpoint of schools growing up in NYC? The evidence you cite of why NYU and Columbia are internationally well known is local anecdotal evidence.

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I grew up abroad as well and I knew about Stanford, Berkeley, Harvard, not sure about others. A teen weekly magazine featured one of the "world's famous universities" every week. This is where I heard the names for the first time. Later I knew a guy who went to Princeton. By the time I got to college I knew 10-15 US schools. My dream was to go to Columbia. This was all before internet.

The internet has really changed things. A lot of kids are applying to schools they might never even heard of or cared about if they had grown up before social media. Party why college admissions has gotten so nutty.

Anonymous wrote:If "perceived" is the key word
Stanford
MIT
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Caltech

Above 6 for sure. Then take your pick out of:
Penn
Columbia
Williams
Hopkins
Duke

It seems Chicago, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Northwestern, Rice, Vanderbilt are a tiny tad below these above, but that's just perceptions in my local community

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is definitely one of top ten

Hate to burst your DMV bubble, but….

LOL Georgetown.

I have a master's from Georgetown. I've lived in southeastern Michigan for the the past 25 or so years. Georgetown simply doesn't exist in the popular consciousness here.

Where I went to school rarely comes up in conversation, but when it does...

I've met exactly two people here in 25 years who were "impressed" in any way about my Georgetown credentials. First was a coworker who was Very Jesuit. If I recall, she went to Boston College and was trying to figure out if I was also Very Jesuit. Second was an acquaintance who is Very Catholic. She was interested in my experience at a Catholic school because at the time her kids were looking into Catholic schools. That person and I also studied in the same somewhat niche field, and we both left the field for unrelated careers (unrelated to field of education and unrelated to each other), so we shared that.

Among those who've heard of Georgetown here, there's some confusion whether it's in the Ivy League. There's also some confusion whether Georgetown is actually in the District of Columbia or nearby. Some people might recall something or other about basketball in the '80s or '90s.

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Anonymous wrote:Overseas, people only know MIT, Stanford and Harvard and maybe Berkeley.

- immigrant who has lived in many places

I doubt that. I never heard of MIT or Stanford as a child and I grew up in New York. Let alone in India or China.

But I knew Harvard, Columbia and NYU growing up. Our only rich neighbor the "Doctor's wife" sent her three kids to those three schools and we never heard the end of it.

This is some of the dumbest logic I’ve seen on this site. Why would you discredit his point (which is correct by the way) based upon your myopic viewpoint of schools growing up in NYC? The evidence you cite of why NYU and Columbia are internationally well known is local anecdotal evidence.

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I grew up abroad as well and I knew about Stanford, Berkeley, Harvard, not sure about others. A teen weekly magazine featured one of the "world's famous universities" every week. This is where I heard the names for the first time. Later I knew a guy who went to Princeton. By the time I got to college I knew 10-15 US schools. My dream was to go to Columbia. This was all before internet.

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Anonymous wrote:Overseas, people only know MIT, Stanford and Harvard and maybe Berkeley.

- immigrant who has lived in many places

I doubt that. I never heard of MIT or Stanford as a child and I grew up in New York. Let alone in India or China.

But I knew Harvard, Columbia and NYU growing up. Our only rich neighbor the "Doctor's wife" sent her three kids to those three schools and we never heard the end of it.

This is some of the dumbest logic I’ve seen on this site. Why would you discredit his point (which is correct by the way) based upon your myopic viewpoint of schools growing up in NYC? The evidence you cite of why NYU and Columbia are internationally well known is local anecdotal evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown is definitely one of top ten

Hate to burst your DMV bubble, but….

Anonymous wrote:Why do we have incessant threads like this?

It seems like HYPSM should be secure and not needing to dunk on anyone else. My experience is they don’t IRL.

Top non-Ivy schools trying to legitimize and bump up status so agenda is to dunk on non-HYP ivies.

Berkeley, UofM, UCLA, UVA, UNC want to overcome public label and be legitimized.

The amount of Emory, WashU, Wake level schools that are so insecure for no reason. They are great schools, I hate reading threads tearing each other down to be the best of that range.

And I’m sure a million more examples.
My sense it is the very top and then the schools outside of T75 that are quite content and secure with their positions, and the rest just come off so desperate.

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Anonymous wrote:Overseas, people only know MIT, Stanford and Harvard and maybe Berkeley.

- immigrant who has lived in many places

I doubt that. I never heard of MIT or Stanford as a child and I grew up in New York. Let alone in India or China.

But I knew Harvard, Columbia and NYU growing up. Our only rich neighbor the "Doctor's wife" sent her three kids to those three schools and we never heard the end of it.