How come Trump didn't care about Bannon's fraud? And I believe he contested the Trump U claims, didn't he? Yes, this was private sector but if fraud is bad, it's bad when you do it yourself too.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

Those ponzi schemes will be bone dry in 20 years time tops. Enjoy your years of SS taxes suckers under age 50!

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Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?

There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.

Have you seen how many doctors get prosecuted for Medicare fraud every year?

Oh, you mean this was getting prosecuted before Elon showed up? In that case, who needs Elon?
(And yes, I know about such prosecutions. Local provider had to pay back $40k when it turned out a physician had been doing televisits from overseas and also billing for multiple visits at a time, such as when he had a visit with a family).
What pp is saying is that there is no way Elon has found actual fraud based on what he is doing.

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

HE is the fraud.

Fraud investigations go on ALL THE TIME and you cannot tell me Elon and his people have the skills to spend a couple of weeks scrolling through databases and identifying overpayments.

I know a couple of people who were disabled but then were able to find work they could do. Because you are allowed some earnings, it can take time before SS catches up. At that point any overpayments have to be paid back.
I know a couple and a single adult whose benefits were partly retirement and partly SSI. The couple was WRONGLY taken off benefits because SS determined their pandemic stimulus payment was excess assets, when if fact you could hang on to that money up to 12 months. The single adult mistakenly thought the asset limit was $3000 and a year of SSI benefits were declared as overpayments and are deducted from his benefit amount.

Serious fraud is a law enforcement matter that is prosecuted in federal courts.

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Anonymous wrote:I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable. When it was conceived people didn't live 30 years in retirement. We have a dwindling population and trillions in debt. I don't want to saddle my children with government debt we have to print our way out of.

I'm 38 and never assumed I would be able to collect social security when the time comes and I think millennials and younger gen x need to make peace with this.

I’m just going to state the obvious- you expropriate Musk’s fortune, we’re good for another generation. At this point, you can’t convince me it’s not 100% ill gotten gains. Take it from him and none of us have to spend our elder years eating dog food.

LOL! How is that any different than taking your money and providing it to less fortunate than you? Would you like that?

Musk can FAFO. The French did it, the Soviets did it, the Cubans did it, the Chinese did it. You want to inflict pain? You can pay the price. He didn’t earn any of it and I’m fine if he isn’t left with a damn cent.

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Anonymous wrote:When you have people who are presumably 150 years old receiving social security, there is fraud.
Get rid of the fraud. I am all for it.

The funniest part is that MAGA clowns are so ignorant, they have no clue what they're doing. It's clear Elon and his so called genius crew of DOGE coders have no idea what they're doing.

Social security runs on COBOL language. The dating system is strange, and the entire thing is also based on standards from 1875 - which is exactly 150 years ago.

Thus, if you don't understand the code and how COBOL stores dating information, you will get back a zero - which defaults the date to 150 years old.

Isn't amazing this genius team of DOGE, who could be misinterpreting errors in code they don't understand at all, is messing around in the treasury changing code written in COBOL along with meddling in everything from social security and Medicare to nuclear weapons and personnel files for everyone in intelligence?

That's actually really interesting. They really don't know what they're doing.

Anonymous wrote:When you have people who are presumably 150 years old receiving social security, there is fraud.
Get rid of the fraud. I am all for it.

The funniest part is that MAGA clowns are so ignorant, they have no clue what they're doing. It's clear Elon and his so called genius crew of DOGE coders have no idea what they're doing.

Social security runs on COBOL language. The dating system is strange, and the entire thing is also based on standards from 1875 - which is exactly 150 years ago.

Thus, if you don't understand the code and how COBOL stores dating information, you will get back a zero - which defaults the date to 150 years old.

Isn't amazing this genius team of DOGE, who could be misinterpreting errors in code they don't understand at all, is messing around in the treasury changing code written in COBOL along with meddling in everything from social security and Medicare to nuclear weapons and personnel files for everyone in intelligence?

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

It’s the dumbest people who have the loudest voices.

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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You know that red states take more $ from the Federal government than they give, right? And it is the opposite for blue states.

So be careful what you wish for Bozo (and by the way, it might be difficult for the elderly and disabled to “make their own way in life.” You people are so in incredibly uninformed!)

Most of Medicaid actually goes to kids, then to the elderly.

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I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

He’s calling everything fraud so he can kick people off of desperately needed benefits precisely so the WH can push through the Republican budget that features tax cuts for the wealthy and cuts to entitlement/benefit programs.

YMMV, but I don’t want tax cuts for the rich orchestrated by an obviously self-interested billionaire who has unfettered power over our government.

If SS, SSDI, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. are cut, good luck everyone.

This is bananas.

I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable.

100% agreed. Our current deficit spending habit is unsustainable. We need to solve it through some combination of tax revenue increases, spending cuts (including cuts to Social Security, the military, and Medicare, which are the biggest expenses), and inflation.

I hate Trump and the way in which he is going about all of this, but I do appreciate that the conversation has at least been started, for the first time in many years. Unfortunately, I am concerned that the fact that this purported concern comes from the Trump administration will lead voters to dismiss it as the rantings of a crazed lunatic instead of an actual problem in need of being solved.

Ultimately, this is (or should be) the responsibility of Congress to solve, not the president.

Anonymous wrote:If we don't check fraud now then there won't be a SS or Medicare in the future. This is good.

So you think these programs are what 25% fraud?

Anonymous wrote:MAGA is about to learn that Musk thinks every federal dollar that doesn’t go into his pocket is waste, fraud, and abuse

Did you know that your employer paid half of your SS inputs? Well, that’s a hit to Musk’s bottom line. He didn’t become the world’s richest trust fund baby by being generous. He wants your SS contributions, he wants your tax dollars, he wants your spending, he wants your attention, and he wants your labor dirt cheap.

Anything spent on you, and not by you, is waste to him and his billionaire friends. YOU are waste. And you are quickly alienating anyone who is in a position to care.

This.
As the effects ripple through I expect “owning the libs” will feel empty.

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

You know that red states take more $ from the Federal government than they give, right? And it is the opposite for blue states.

So be careful what you wish for Bozo (and by the way, it might be difficult for the elderly and disabled to “make their own way in life.” You people are so in incredibly uninformed!)