Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

No, because the deal was never going to be honored anyway.

A few fries short of a Happy Meal, aren't you? But then all MAGA posters are...

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

Well, they’re a fed who works at home so they probably just play pickle ball all day anyway.

Hey bud, got a bridge to sell you. Making an offer ya can't refuse.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

Again, a federal RIF comes with benefits, severance and protections. And in many cases more money than the FORK. Very few people can just be fired. They need to go through RIF procedures. I know they aren’t right now, but that’s next weeks lawsuit. RIF is in a statute, passed by Congress. It’s a real thing people can depend on and does not require you to sign away all rights. In almost all cases, RIF is better than FORK.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

GTFO.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

Well, they’re a fed who works at home so they probably just play pickle ball all day anyway.

Anonymous wrote:Why would unions challenge this? Let people take it if they want. People are entitled to make informed decisions including taking risks.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT LEGAL, and therefore it exposes anyone who takes the offer with not actually following through on all the promises made, such as being allowed to stay home as soon as you hit send; being allowed to not work until September while still getting paid; guaranteed salary until September. Also, depending on the agency, the offer conflicts with specific agency rules.

It's a huge risk to take for a private individual. The language of some of the Fork emails stated that once accepted, the employee waived all rights to complain later. Some emails said that actual work might be required of some employees, in person. And indeed, some IRS employees who took the offer found out that the IRS still required them to work until May! I believe this was used as an example in the lawsuit, but I may be wrong.

Unions are doing their jobs and protecting their members from exploitative labor practices.

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Anonymous wrote:Crap, I wanted to see the 11:59 pm rage email tonight.

Maybe Amanda will still send one out. Grammar mistakes and all.

(grabs popcorn)

you might be in luck. I hear one is coming today or tomorrow

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

Just stop it troll

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

So wow
Much convincing

People already took the deal, right? If it was binding, then it still is. If it was illegal, then they weren't getting anything anyway.

Catch up.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

No need to post again, friend. We got you a few pages back.

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Anonymous wrote:IT HASN'T BEEN STOPPED. Don't you fools read?

The deadline forcing people to respond today has been paused.

Delayed until Monday, when the judge has scheduled another hearing. Judge wants to review the merits of the case over the weekend.

Judge will very likely issue a permanent TRO on Monday. The plaintiffs strongly argue multiple violations of law by the Fork program and OPM.

Now that Bondi is in they should stop frivolous litigations like this as they cost tax payers a lot of money

Explain how this is frivolous and what part of the Constitution allows her to stop litigation.

I think some people think DOJ = judges

If anything, this entire debacle has shown how little kids are learning in schools about the 3 branches of government.

These little dick "engineers" are being laughed at all across the country. Who's going to hire them now?

Not even for illegal actions, but they fell for Musk like a pallet of bricks. Just stupid.

PS: But there is still time to blow a whistle, to recognize the error of their ways and make a deal giving evidence. That could be spun into a real redemption arc.

This offer is only open for a few more days, though, and unlike Ole Musky, this time that deadline is real. Tick tock.

Wow, so instead of letting people take the deal, they are forcing everyone to be fired. Sad. You know they will set the bar high and expect everyone to be in 5 days a week. My relative was looking forward to the 8 months paid admin leave and then retiring. Now they will need just to retire immediately. Hopefully its just a pause but if it does get blocked It feels like they stole a great deal from a lot of people.

Anonymous wrote:Why would unions challenge this? Let people take it if they want. People are entitled to make informed decisions including taking risks.

Because employees were not being given the information or time needed to make informed decisions. Case in point— sometime after I logged off last night, they added a “this is subject to appropriations” clause. Which changes a lot. People should have information up front. It should be truthful (ie, we might not get the money), it should give time to consult with a financial planner and attorney, they shouldn’t keep changing the terms, they shouldn't make promises that, objectively and legally, they might not be able to keep.

Follow the process, give people good info, only offer what you know you can legally provide, stop the high pressure sales techniques and very short deadlines and then sure— FORK AWAY. As it stands, people counting on VERA in late summer might have their resignations effective 3/14 because no funds were appropriated. And lose VERA, which they would have gotten without FORK. That is one of 1000 risks that should have been disclosed.

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Anonymous wrote:IT HASN'T BEEN STOPPED. Don't you fools read?

The deadline forcing people to respond today has been paused.

Delayed until Monday, when the judge has scheduled another hearing. Judge wants to review the merits of the case over the weekend.

Judge will very likely issue a permanent TRO on Monday. The plaintiffs strongly argue multiple violations of law by the Fork program and OPM.

Now that Bondi is in they should stop frivolous litigations like this as they cost tax payers a lot of money

Explain how this is frivolous and what part of the Constitution allows her to stop litigation.

I think some people think DOJ = judges

If anything, this entire debacle has shown how little kids are learning in schools about the 3 branches of government.

These little dick "engineers" are being laughed at all across the country. Who's going to hire them now?

Not even for illegal actions, but they fell for Musk like a pallet of bricks. Just stupid.

RIF is better way to go than fork