Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.
And they deserve it. How many people here would rather see their kids enlist after high school instead of heading to a 4 year college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.
You are confusing EEO with DEI. They are not the same. DEI is not about immutable characteristics
DEI would be fine if it changed two things: 1 drop the notion that our entire society is inherently flawed 2 change equity to equality.
Anonymous wrote:It’s not DEI, it’s far better. It’s not just getting an opportunity to try, it’s being given preferential treatment on a silver plattter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Veterans get preferential treatment. DEI does not grant preferential treatment.
Veterans get a bigger boost in federal civil employment than anyone else because Congress intentionally made that the law. Applicants who are veterans get extra points.
Because it is based on SERVICE--not genetics.
Where did you get the idea that “diversity “ was only about genetics? DEI programs and standards vary widely, and they’re used to accomplish multiple—and different goals.
This!!! MAGA doesn't understand DEI but the way they use it veterans status is a classification.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.
From the hiring our heroes webpage:
“Hiring Our Heroes (HOH) connects the military community—service members, military spouses, and veterans—with American businesses to create economic opportunity and a strong and diversified workforce.”
Definitely DEI, even includes spouses…
"Hiring our Heroes" is not a government agency. It is a project of the Chamber of Commerce.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.
From the hiring our heroes webpage:
“Hiring Our Heroes (HOH) connects the military community—service members, military spouses, and veterans—with American businesses to create economic opportunity and a strong and diversified workforce.”
Definitely DEI, even includes spouses…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
+1 Experience in any field is not DEI.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
Being a vet IS part of work requirements. It isn’t only about the tasks they do in the military but also about the attributes and values they gain in training.
Anonymous wrote:Let me point out I have the utmost respect for veterans and think we as a country owe them for their service. But if you use their military service as a "leg up" in the private sector or for government jobs isn't that just another DEI classification? Just want to debate the merits of it if GOP wants to do away with all DEI.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. Being a veteran is simply one of the qualifications a person can list when applying for a job.
It is not like the person is saying he/she is black, hispanic, gay, female, etc. It represents a position that have held in the past.
Not sure why you consider this DEI.
In the fed, you get extra points on the hiring scale for being a veteran. It has nothing to do with qualifications or past work assignments. What does flying a plane or working as an infantry grunt have to do with contracting or litigating a case? The answer is nothing, but that veteran will get preference over someone who has fifteen years of contracting experience as long as that veteran has one year of infantry and one year of contract experience. Yes, DEI meaning include the veterans to make the workforce diverse in experiences. Military diversity and inclusion.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.
You are confusing EEO with DEI. They are not the same. DEI is not about immutable characteristics