Anonymous wrote:Dang. They ruled out applying for someone else. Guess I can’t just pick others to go.

Imagine the hijinks when Ted from Accounting runs around to each cubicle replying "resign" every time someone heads to the bathroom. Gotta love RTO.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't say anything about retirement benefits so I'm going to wait and see

Wait too long and you’ll miss your window

It’s not retirement or early retirement. It’s resigning.

Yeah, I can resign whenever I want. There's no carrot here. Anyone thinking they'll get admin until September is in for a rude awakening.

Dang. They ruled out applying for someone else. Guess I can’t just pick others to go.

HR is going to be busy busy.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is true, the time between 2/6 and end of September counted as service comp time? I plan to retire in August when I turn 62. If this counts as service comp, I’d certainly take it now

Sounds like it. You just don’t have to come in, but aren’t retired until then.

If that’s true, I would take it in a heartbeat

You have to keep working until September.

How can you work once you resign?

It's you resigning but agreeing to work until September and make your regular salary, except without going to the office. You can leave earlier than September, but not later. That's it. It's just for people who really hate going to the office and have an empty office available to go to.

No that is not what it says. You will be placed on admin leave until the end of September.

It absolutely doesn't say you will be placed on admin leave. It says you may. The fact that so many people on this thread can't accurately read the email is making me think Trump is a little bit right about the quality of the federal workforce. (And I am a federal worker.)

The OPM memo says admin leave, unless the agency needs you. It's probably a trap, but maybe not.

You'd still be a federal employee, though, which would create challenges/restrictions on getting a new job.

Maybe this makes sense if you're going to retire in the next 8 months.

This, 100%. If you are on admin leave, you are probably restricted from taking another job. Even while on LWOP, most feds have to get permission to take another job (due to conflicts of interest). Also, I would bet that if enough people do this, the agencies are going to not be able to function, so many will be asked to return.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't say anything about retirement benefits so I'm going to wait and see

Wait too long and you’ll miss your window

It’s not retirement or early retirement. It’s resigning.

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Anonymous wrote:Do not take the buy out they will never pay!

I am not wrong,

It's not a buy out. I'm not sure why people are so confused.

Probably because the articles are calling it a buyout/severance, the email implies you have to work but not in the office, and the memo that just dropped says admin leave.

it's all garbage and we all know it. But look at how we all chomp at the bit and lap it up.

Bad AI or someone who is not familiar with idioms?

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think this smacks of desperation. The directives so far aren't going the way they hoped and someone did the math on how much returning remote workers would cost so they're trying to scare them out.

Lol yeah the 5,000 EOs in 4 days certainly lends itself to the theory that no one was thinking about how to go about completely transforming the federal government for the past four years.

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the normal severance package be much better for long-term employees anyway?

One week of pay for the first ten years, two weeks for each year after that. Times 2.5% for every three months over the age of 40.

I did my RIF calculations last night, and the RIF is much more attractive for me than this offer. I've been a fed for 26 years, and I am 47, so I would get 42 weeks, which works out to 10.5 months.

You realize they can change the RIF payout terms, right? Everything is up in the air.

Yes, but that's specified in law, not executive branch policy.

Interesting that the latest OPM memo had said the new RTO plan was due February 3 and the deadline to resign is now February 6. What do you all make of that?

The CHCO memo says it is only an exemption for remote workers, but then the QA says it is available to all federal workers (except mil, postal, etc).

The entire thing makes no sense and I cannot figure out if they just can't hire lawyers who can write or if they are being intentionally vague.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is true, the time between 2/6 and end of September counted as service comp time? I plan to retire in August when I turn 62. If this counts as service comp, I’d certainly take it now

Sounds like it. You just don’t have to come in, but aren’t retired until then.

If that’s true, I would take it in a heartbeat

You have to keep working until September.

How can you work once you resign?

It's you resigning but agreeing to work until September and make your regular salary, except without going to the office. You can leave earlier than September, but not later. That's it. It's just for people who really hate going to the office and have an empty office available to go to.

No that is not what it says. You will be placed on admin leave until the end of September.

It absolutely doesn't say you will be placed on admin leave. It says you may. The fact that so many people on this thread can't accurately read the email is making me think Trump is a little bit right about the quality of the federal workforce. (And I am a federal worker.)

The OPM memo says admin leave, unless the agency needs you. It's probably a trap, but maybe not.

You'd still be a federal employee, though, which would create challenges/restrictions on getting a new job.

Maybe this makes sense if you're going to retire in the next 8 months.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think this smacks of desperation. The directives so far aren't going the way they hoped and someone did the math on how much returning remote workers would cost so they're trying to scare them out.

+1

Honestly I think this smacks of desperation. The directives so far aren't going the way they hoped and someone did the math on how much returning remote workers would cost so they're trying to scare them out.

This is the email from reddit
https://old.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1icfqe7/a_fork_in_the_road_letter_from_hropmgov_fulltext/

It seems to be based on the premise that the vast majority of feds are working remote but their office is available and sitting empty. There's even a threat that after you're forced back to "your" office, there may be consolidations and relocations, when in fact if they want everyone back full time they'll need to lease new spaces. I'm pretty sure feds who had an office to go back to have already had to RTO at least a few times a week under Biden, so this would them quitting just to eke out a few more days at home.