Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 10:28     Subject: Re:Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Trump said the coast is beautiful. Doesn’t his son-in-law want to develop Gaza into a resort?

Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 10:18     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As if the neighboring countries, Egypt, Jordan and Lebnanon, don't already have millions of displaced Palestenians whose homes and land have been taken by Israel.

The only country that doesn't want to deal with the refugees they created is Israel. They want to ethnically cleanse like Germany did after WWII but is facing the same issue when the U.S. and Europe didn't want to take any refugees. Just look at the West Bank as further proof.

Israel is not evening honoring the ceasfire with Lebanon and is trying to stay permenantly in the south Lebnanon area and parts of Syria. This is Leibensraum.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-he-wants-to-clean-out-gaza-send-refugees-to-egypt-and-jordan-d90beccc

How do the good people of Dearborn, Michigan feel about this?



I'm not sure why progressives seem to think deeply conservative Muslims ought to be their natural ally. Most religious Muslims have very little in common with progressives and their trans, equity, DEI, soft on crime agenda. It's a little mystifying why progressives are so enthusiastic for extremist Islamic groups. The feelings are not reciprocated. Most progressives would not be welcome in Gaza, Riyadh, or Tehran. It shouldn't be a surprise that Dearborn didn't want them either.

So you’re saying that Dearborn Muslims knowingly voted for Palestinians to be removed from Gaza?
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 09:10     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:The title of this thread is fake news and it’s appalling to read.
Israel did not colonize the land, so you see all the archaeological finds or read about history? Different peoples were on this land including the Jews.
Secondly, BLAME HAMAS.
They are holding hostages and even for years, corpses. They don’t care about their people and they were given free rein of Gaza when Israel left.
Israel is not in the right for all it is doing but get a grip—it treats Gazans in its hospitals at this very moment. It wants to end terorrism not a group of people.


You mean blame the apartheid and Jim Crow conditions that exist for the occupied territories.

Side note Arab Israelis also face extreme discrimination and there’s also non Israeli Muslims living in Jerusalem without any status whatsoever. Great society you all have created!
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 09:10     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:Trump is right that Gaza is essentially uninhabitable as it stands.

It will literally take decades to clear the rubble. And that’s not even the worst problem. The whole strip is now strewn with unexplored ordinance and human remains.

I don’t pretend to know what the solution is, but somebody has to figure something out.


Probably the best solution is for the world community to agree to allow as many Palestinians that want to emigrate to do so. And for the UN to work on clearing and rebuilding housing for whoever is left, but with an understanding that there will not be any more of these tunnels. They should allow regular trade/commerce from Gaza and Israel should probably just build a big wall since anyone left probably will really hate them. But there’s really no good solution.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 09:08     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:The title of this thread is fake news and it’s appalling to read.
Israel did not colonize the land, so you see all the archaeological finds or read about history? Different peoples were on this land including the Jews.
Secondly, BLAME HAMAS.
They are holding hostages and even for years, corpses. They don’t care about their people and they were given free rein of Gaza when Israel left.
Israel is not in the right for all it is doing but get a grip—it treats Gazans in its hospitals at this very moment. It wants to end terorrism not a group of people.


Eastern Europeans are native to Israel the same way all of humanity is native to Africa. Full stop.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 08:49     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
The title of this thread is fake news and it’s appalling to read.
Israel did not colonize the land, so you see all the archaeological finds or read about history? Different peoples were on this land including the Jews.
Secondly, BLAME HAMAS.
They are holding hostages and even for years, corpses. They don’t care about their people and they were given free rein of Gaza when Israel left.
Israel is not in the right for all it is doing but get a grip—it treats Gazans in its hospitals at this very moment. It wants to end terorrism not a group of people.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 08:49     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As if the neighboring countries, Egypt, Jordan and Lebnanon, don't already have millions of displaced Palestenians whose homes and land have been taken by Israel.

The only country that doesn't want to deal with the refugees they created is Israel. They want to ethnically cleanse like Germany did after WWII but is facing the same issue when the U.S. and Europe didn't want to take any refugees. Just look at the West Bank as further proof.

Israel is not evening honoring the ceasfire with Lebanon and is trying to stay permenantly in the south Lebnanon area and parts of Syria. This is Leibensraum.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-he-wants-to-clean-out-gaza-send-refugees-to-egypt-and-jordan-d90beccc

How do the good people of Dearborn, Michigan feel about this?



I'm not sure why progressives seem to think deeply conservative Muslims ought to be their natural ally. Most religious Muslims have very little in common with progressives and their trans, equity, DEI, soft on crime agenda. It's a little mystifying why progressives are so enthusiastic for extremist Islamic groups. The feelings are not reciprocated. Most progressives would not be welcome in Gaza, Riyadh, or Tehran. It shouldn't be a surprise that Dearborn didn't want them either.


You are missing the point. Arab voters in the state of Michigan made a huge deal about how bad Biden was for Palestine to the point that they very publicly made a show of either staying home or supporting Trump. their vote likely cost Harris the state (as well as PA)

So they were upset that Netanyahu refused to strike a deal with Biden, had the war prolonged because of the Trump/Netanyahu alliance and are rewarded with....ethnic cleansing.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 07:52     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:Hope all those uncommitted voters in Michigan are happy with their decision to back Trump or sit out the vote. Dumbest move ever.


This.
And they won’t be the first demographic group to consider the wisdom of using the leverage of the electoral college to make a point about being taken for granted.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 07:50     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As if the neighboring countries, Egypt, Jordan and Lebnanon, don't already have millions of displaced Palestenians whose homes and land have been taken by Israel.

The only country that doesn't want to deal with the refugees they created is Israel. They want to ethnically cleanse like Germany did after WWII but is facing the same issue when the U.S. and Europe didn't want to take any refugees. Just look at the West Bank as further proof.

Israel is not evening honoring the ceasfire with Lebanon and is trying to stay permenantly in the south Lebnanon area and parts of Syria. This is Leibensraum.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-he-wants-to-clean-out-gaza-send-refugees-to-egypt-and-jordan-d90beccc

How do the good people of Dearborn, Michigan feel about this?



I'm not sure why progressives seem to think deeply conservative Muslims ought to be their natural ally. Most religious Muslims have very little in common with progressives and their trans, equity, DEI, soft on crime agenda. It's a little mystifying why progressives are so enthusiastic for extremist Islamic groups. The feelings are not reciprocated. Most progressives would not be welcome in Gaza, Riyadh, or Tehran. It shouldn't be a surprise that Dearborn didn't want them either.


Ummm…Because we care about the wellbeing of people, even if they have differing political views..?
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 07:49     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Hope all those uncommitted voters in Michigan are happy with their decision to back Trump or sit out the vote. Dumbest move ever.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 07:35     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:The neighboring countries don’t want to take in the Palestinians not because they are Palestinian but because they simply do not have the economic ability to do so. There is little to no industry to support a mass influx of immigrants. They can barely manage their own population. Additionally, many of the people in Gaza have limited education (not because they don’t want it but because they aren’t allowed to have schools) and are women and children (all the men are dead) so just like we won’t take in all the immigrants from south and Central America despite our bounty of riches why is it even a consideration.

Here’s a thought. Why not allow the Palestinians to actually live like normal people, to be educated, receive adequate healthcare, farm, have industry occupy their time with productivity? Why is the answer sending them somewhere else? If Israel is so worried about its safety. (It’ll be surrounded by these same people) why not move themselves to Germany, they will be safe there.


Probably because all resources provided by ngos keep being used to commit terror attacks.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 07:04     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:The neighboring countries don’t want to take in the Palestinians not because they are Palestinian but because they simply do not have the economic ability to do so. There is little to no industry to support a mass influx of immigrants. They can barely manage their own population. Additionally, many of the people in Gaza have limited education (not because they don’t want it but because they aren’t allowed to have schools) and are women and children (all the men are dead) so just like we won’t take in all the immigrants from south and Central America despite our bounty of riches why is it even a consideration.

Here’s a thought. Why not allow the Palestinians to actually live like normal people, to be educated, receive adequate healthcare, farm, have industry occupy their time with productivity? Why is the answer sending them somewhere else? If Israel is so worried about its safety. (It’ll be surrounded by these same people) why not move themselves to Germany, they will be safe there.


Almost everything in your post is false.
And the reason they're mostly women and children is that until recently they had one of the highest fertility rates in the world and half the population is under 18. So by definition, three quarters must be women and children.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 06:41     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As if the neighboring countries, Egypt, Jordan and Lebnanon, don't already have millions of displaced Palestenians whose homes and land have been taken by Israel.

The only country that doesn't want to deal with the refugees they created is Israel. They want to ethnically cleanse like Germany did after WWII but is facing the same issue when the U.S. and Europe didn't want to take any refugees. Just look at the West Bank as further proof.

Israel is not evening honoring the ceasfire with Lebanon and is trying to stay permenantly in the south Lebnanon area and parts of Syria. This is Leibensraum.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-he-wants-to-clean-out-gaza-send-refugees-to-egypt-and-jordan-d90beccc

How do the good people of Dearborn, Michigan feel about this?



I'm not sure why progressives seem to think deeply conservative Muslims ought to be their natural ally. Most religious Muslims have very little in common with progressives and their trans, equity, DEI, soft on crime agenda. It's a little mystifying why progressives are so enthusiastic for extremist Islamic groups. The feelings are not reciprocated. Most progressives would not be welcome in Gaza, Riyadh, or Tehran. It shouldn't be a surprise that Dearborn didn't want them either.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 01:17     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:As if the neighboring countries, Egypt, Jordan and Lebnanon, don't already have millions of displaced Palestenians whose homes and land have been taken by Israel.

The only country that doesn't want to deal with the refugees they created is Israel. They want to ethnically cleanse like Germany did after WWII but is facing the same issue when the U.S. and Europe didn't want to take any refugees. Just look at the West Bank as further proof.

Israel is not evening honoring the ceasfire with Lebanon and is trying to stay permenantly in the south Lebnanon area and parts of Syria. This is Leibensraum.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-says-he-wants-to-clean-out-gaza-send-refugees-to-egypt-and-jordan-d90beccc

How do the good people of Dearborn, Michigan feel about this?
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2025 00:11     Subject: Trump and Israel want to ethnically cleanse the Palestenians
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The neighboring countries don’t want to take in the Palestinians not because they are Palestinian but because they simply do not have the economic ability to do so. There is little to no industry to support a mass influx of immigrants. They can barely manage their own population. Additionally, many of the people in Gaza have limited education (not because they don’t want it but because they aren’t allowed to have schools) and are women and children (all the men are dead) so just like we won’t take in all the immigrants from south and Central America despite our bounty of riches why is it even a consideration.

Here’s a thought. Why not allow the Palestinians to actually live like normal people, to be educated, receive adequate healthcare, farm, have industry occupy their time with productivity? Why is the answer sending them somewhere else? If Israel is so worried about its safety. (It’ll be surrounded by these same people) why not move themselves to Germany, they will be safe there.


Please don’t propagate fake news. Gaza has one of the highest literacy rates in the world.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/PSE/west-bank-and-gaza/literacy-rate


Please, of course they can read they can even do math. But what stage in their education does it stop? No one is graduating from the university of Gaza. They are not dumb, they would love to attend school and get advanced degrees, they can’t. The Israelis won’t allow it. I have witnessed first hand Israel preventing textbooks from being transported even blank paper all because it could be used in propaganda against Israel.