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Anonymous wrote:Biden ordered a similar review of U.S. aid upon taking office

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-next-foreign-aid-under-biden

I have worked in global health since the first Bush administration. Nothing that any president has done to date, including the reviews, comes close to the absolute chaos of the past week. Literally no one knows what these orders mean, including senior State Department and USAID staff. Half of the Missions are telling our organization to do a full stop, including salaries, and the other half are saying to just stop programs and await instruction. Some are telling us to report on DEIA elements, and others are not. What is a DEIA element of a global health program? Is it work with disabled children promote inclusion and accessibility of schools? Is it working with ethnic minorities in a certain region who are over-represented in tuberculosis cases? We have no idea, and the Missions have no idea.

This is not just unprecedented, it's wildly under-considered. International development serves the interests of US foreign policy and national security by preventing disease outbreaks, curbing migration, preventing resource wars, and introducing anti-corruption mechanisms that allow more stable alliances. All of that is being torn down in the course of a week.

This is the story development professionals tell themselves, but is it really true? Has corruption really decreased in Africa? Most African heads of state aligned themselves with Russia in the Ukraine debacle. They are also playing Russia, China and the U.S. off of themselves to line their own pockets. There have been a spate of coups in the Sahel region over the past few years. Perhaps it's not working?

It’s not working, but to understand why you have to go back 20+ years and look at what happened during the Bush II administration. China went into Africa (and the Pacific and parts of Asia) hard in the 2000s while the U.S. was redirecting aid and diplomatic resources to Afghanistan and Iraq. American diplomacy - and the access of American companies to critical minerals - never really recovered from that.

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Anonymous wrote:Power abhors a vacuum.

China will quietly swoop in to every country where we cut aid and our influence and power in the world will shrink and weaken.

China has already done this. It’s too late.

It's never too late. Yes, China has been working at this for some time. Trump did a lot of damage in his first term - alienated allies, tore up treaties, undermined strategic alliances, and withdrew from the world stage. Biden, Blinken and others had to do a lot of work to try and restore faith and trust in the US and to rebuild alliances. But now Trump's right back at it. It seems like he is hell bent on making the US a backward, isolationist third-world banana republic of serfs toiling away in industrial pollution, while governed by some billionaire elites - as the rest of the world passes us by. People need to wake up to this. The mid-terms are coming, 2026. Hopefully Trump can't do too much damage between now and then.

I hate everything about Trump, but I don’t believe Blinkin did a good job rebuilding alliances.

To be fair no allies were confident in the US after Trump remained relevant despite J6. No ally will trust the Trump administration with intelligence that reveals sources or methods. No ally will trust what Trump will or won’t do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden ordered a similar review of U.S. aid upon taking office

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-next-foreign-aid-under-biden

I have worked in global health since the first Bush administration. Nothing that any president has done to date, including the reviews, comes close to the absolute chaos of the past week. Literally no one knows what these orders mean, including senior State Department and USAID staff. Half of the Missions are telling our organization to do a full stop, including salaries, and the other half are saying to just stop programs and await instruction. Some are telling us to report on DEIA elements, and others are not. What is a DEIA element of a global health program? Is it work with disabled children promote inclusion and accessibility of schools? Is it working with ethnic minorities in a certain region who are over-represented in tuberculosis cases? We have no idea, and the Missions have no idea.

This is not just unprecedented, it's wildly under-considered. International development serves the interests of US foreign policy and national security by preventing disease outbreaks, curbing migration, preventing resource wars, and introducing anti-corruption mechanisms that allow more stable alliances. All of that is being torn down in the course of a week.

I’d say your mission isn’t working since we got TB, Covid and 8 million illegal immigrants in the last 4 years.

Best to stop throwing good money after bad.

8 million--wrong.
2008-2015 went from 12 million to 11 million (1 year GW, 7 years Obama)
2015 to 2020 went from 11 million to 10.1 (2 years Obama, 7 years Trump but Covid was also a factor for 2020)
2022 10.9 (added 800,000)
2023 11.7 (added 800,000)
No figures for 2024 year but as of 2023 still below 2008 figure
These are official estimates via Census Dept

Turkmenistan is the only country in the world to have never reported a case of Covid, so you can hardly blame immigrants. The first known cases in the US involved recent travelers, and the first human-to-human case was the husband of the second known case in someone who had traveled.

In 2023 there were around 9000 cases of Tb in the US. In 1993 there were 25,000. That's from the CDC.

The Cato Institute--that very non-liberal, very libertarian entity--looked at disease rates (reportable diseases other than Covid) and immigrant populations. More most reportable diseases the correlation was 0. For Tb there were a very small correlation with unlawful immigrant population--but this is not affecting Tb rates among native born and legal immigrants.

Violent crime has been decreasing since 1990.

Highest number of border encounters ever was in 1985.

It's strange how people can be inundated with the vision of things that aren't happening.

One thing I know: a War on Immigrants will give us the same horrible outcomes as the War on Drugs did and continues to do.

Anonymous wrote:I used to love DCUM.

There were some really interesting, thoughtful posters.

I jump in every once in a while, and all I find are trolls and maga idiots posting. It's sad.

Yet another great thing ruined by MAGGOTs

It got so angry with so many ad hominem attacks when they arrived. Truly a whole different level of discourse.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden ordered a similar review of U.S. aid upon taking office

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-next-foreign-aid-under-biden

I have worked in global health since the first Bush administration. Nothing that any president has done to date, including the reviews, comes close to the absolute chaos of the past week. Literally no one knows what these orders mean, including senior State Department and USAID staff. Half of the Missions are telling our organization to do a full stop, including salaries, and the other half are saying to just stop programs and await instruction. Some are telling us to report on DEIA elements, and others are not. What is a DEIA element of a global health program? Is it work with disabled children promote inclusion and accessibility of schools? Is it working with ethnic minorities in a certain region who are over-represented in tuberculosis cases? We have no idea, and the Missions have no idea.

This is not just unprecedented, it's wildly under-considered. International development serves the interests of US foreign policy and national security by preventing disease outbreaks, curbing migration, preventing resource wars, and introducing anti-corruption mechanisms that allow more stable alliances. All of that is being torn down in the course of a week.

I’d say your mission isn’t working since we got TB, Covid and 8 million illegal immigrants in the last 4 years.

Best to stop throwing good money after bad.

Bad logic. The counterfactual to compare not to is what would have happened in absence of aid. There is a lot of evidence on that. It’s a great investment for US taxpayers; which is why it’s has strong bipartisan support for decades.

It is because people on both sides make money hand-over-fist on these scams.

Stop the gravy train. It will personally hurt you, but thinking big picture, this helps the people of the US.

No need to be selfish.

How so??

In fiscal year 2023, US of A disbursed $72 billion in assistance. It provided 42% of all humanitarian aid tracked by the United Nations in 2024.

I used to love DCUM.

There were some really interesting, thoughtful posters.

I jump in every once in a while, and all I find are trolls and maga idiots posting. It's sad.

Yet another great thing ruined by MAGGOTs

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden ordered a similar review of U.S. aid upon taking office

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-next-foreign-aid-under-biden

I have worked in global health since the first Bush administration. Nothing that any president has done to date, including the reviews, comes close to the absolute chaos of the past week. Literally no one knows what these orders mean, including senior State Department and USAID staff. Half of the Missions are telling our organization to do a full stop, including salaries, and the other half are saying to just stop programs and await instruction. Some are telling us to report on DEIA elements, and others are not. What is a DEIA element of a global health program? Is it work with disabled children promote inclusion and accessibility of schools? Is it working with ethnic minorities in a certain region who are over-represented in tuberculosis cases? We have no idea, and the Missions have no idea.

This is not just unprecedented, it's wildly under-considered. International development serves the interests of US foreign policy and national security by preventing disease outbreaks, curbing migration, preventing resource wars, and introducing anti-corruption mechanisms that allow more stable alliances. All of that is being torn down in the course of a week.

I’d say your mission isn’t working since we got TB, Covid and 8 million illegal immigrants in the last 4 years.

Best to stop throwing good money after bad.

Bad logic. The counterfactual to compare not to is what would have happened in absence of aid. There is a lot of evidence on that. It’s a great investment for US taxpayers; which is why it’s has strong bipartisan support for decades.

It is because people on both sides make money hand-over-fist on these scams.

Stop the gravy train. It will personally hurt you, but thinking big picture, this helps the people of the US.

No need to be selfish.

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Anonymous wrote:Except to Israel and Egypt of course.

is it not amazing how no one can find any way to stop gov spending, until someone does!

let the pigs squeal as they are pulled from the feeding trough!

So all that $ that's halted is going into whose pockets? Right that's what we thought.

The taxpayers pockets that fund this nonsense.

If these countries haven’t been able to figure out how to fight malaria on their own at this point, there is no reason for us to stop Darwin.

8 billion and counting is enough.

You wish.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden ordered a similar review of U.S. aid upon taking office

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-next-foreign-aid-under-biden

I have worked in global health since the first Bush administration. Nothing that any president has done to date, including the reviews, comes close to the absolute chaos of the past week. Literally no one knows what these orders mean, including senior State Department and USAID staff. Half of the Missions are telling our organization to do a full stop, including salaries, and the other half are saying to just stop programs and await instruction. Some are telling us to report on DEIA elements, and others are not. What is a DEIA element of a global health program? Is it work with disabled children promote inclusion and accessibility of schools? Is it working with ethnic minorities in a certain region who are over-represented in tuberculosis cases? We have no idea, and the Missions have no idea.

This is not just unprecedented, it's wildly under-considered. International development serves the interests of US foreign policy and national security by preventing disease outbreaks, curbing migration, preventing resource wars, and introducing anti-corruption mechanisms that allow more stable alliances. All of that is being torn down in the course of a week.

I’d say your mission isn’t working since we got TB, Covid and 8 million illegal immigrants in the last 4 years.

Best to stop throwing good money after bad.

Bad logic. The counterfactual to compare not to is what would have happened in absence of aid. There is a lot of evidence on that. It’s a great investment for US taxpayers; which is why it’s has strong bipartisan support for decades.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden ordered a similar review of U.S. aid upon taking office

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-next-foreign-aid-under-biden

I have worked in global health since the first Bush administration. Nothing that any president has done to date, including the reviews, comes close to the absolute chaos of the past week. Literally no one knows what these orders mean, including senior State Department and USAID staff. Half of the Missions are telling our organization to do a full stop, including salaries, and the other half are saying to just stop programs and await instruction. Some are telling us to report on DEIA elements, and others are not. What is a DEIA element of a global health program? Is it work with disabled children promote inclusion and accessibility of schools? Is it working with ethnic minorities in a certain region who are over-represented in tuberculosis cases? We have no idea, and the Missions have no idea.

This is not just unprecedented, it's wildly under-considered. International development serves the interests of US foreign policy and national security by preventing disease outbreaks, curbing migration, preventing resource wars, and introducing anti-corruption mechanisms that allow more stable alliances. All of that is being torn down in the course of a week.

I’d say your mission isn’t working since we got TB, Covid and 8 million illegal immigrants in the last 4 years.

Best to stop throwing good money after bad.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully agree with ending foreign aid. It is not helping and very wasteful. Good step in the right direction.

If that’s done, then we should have no homeless person in America. And we know that won’t happen. Americans don’t relieve in helping others. But we our a Christian nation. Laughable. And truly sad.

We are not a Christian nation. We are a constitutional republic that is based on the constitution.

You freggin moron.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except to Israel and Egypt of course.

is it not amazing how no one can find any way to stop gov spending, until someone does!

let the pigs squeal as they are pulled from the feeding trough!

So all that $ that's halted is going into whose pockets? Right that's what we thought.

The taxpayers pockets that fund this nonsense.

If these countries haven’t been able to figure out how to fight malaria on their own at this point, there is no reason for us to stop Darwin.

8 billion and counting is enough.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden ordered a similar review of U.S. aid upon taking office

https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-next-foreign-aid-under-biden

I have worked in global health since the first Bush administration. Nothing that any president has done to date, including the reviews, comes close to the absolute chaos of the past week. Literally no one knows what these orders mean, including senior State Department and USAID staff. Half of the Missions are telling our organization to do a full stop, including salaries, and the other half are saying to just stop programs and await instruction. Some are telling us to report on DEIA elements, and others are not. What is a DEIA element of a global health program? Is it work with disabled children promote inclusion and accessibility of schools? Is it working with ethnic minorities in a certain region who are over-represented in tuberculosis cases? We have no idea, and the Missions have no idea.

This is not just unprecedented, it's wildly under-considered. International development serves the interests of US foreign policy and national security by preventing disease outbreaks, curbing migration, preventing resource wars, and introducing anti-corruption mechanisms that allow more stable alliances. All of that is being torn down in the course of a week.

each agency. chaos. mre need to speak out, people need to understand that engaging in such projects is helping interests of US. the four years is going to be a blur of litigation, wasting precious resources for all, why I why??! but writing on this board to magas is doing nothing they can not comprehend.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we need to rethink how we go about foreign aid.

U.S. foreign assistance is primarily in the form of grants focusing on public health, economic development, and democratic governance in a multitude of countries.

And so much of US aid is stolen. Here is one article from AP "Millions of Ethiopians go hungry again as international aid is paused after massive theft". The US has given Ethiopia 1.8 billion dollars since 2022


China is more selective which countries in Africa and provides loans and aid for infrastructure and mining. Then these projects are required to use Chinese construction firms and companies to build. China has financed a major railroad line from Ethiopia to Djibouti so Ethiopia can export products easier to China

Why is this Americans issue if Ethiopians are going hungry? Their own corrupt Govt is responsible for it.

So it’s their fault for being born in an impoverished country with a corrupt government and must suffer their fate as a consequence?

We are not their savior. If you’re so concerned, adopt an Ethiopian.