Anonymous wrote:Because the US is a shithole under republican rule ie project 2025

Unemployment rising there will be no paying jobs

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

+1 St. Andrew's and London School of Economics are both around GBP 35K (USD 46k) a year. That's a whole lot cheaper than ticket price for Northeastern and U Mich OOS.

No where in London is there cheap housing for students.

Anonymous wrote:My kid very much wants to go to university overseas but we are discouraging (my not allow) for personal reasons. Her motivation is that the US is full of conflict, racism, and crime. She also said she'd like to be a teacher but would never want to teach in US schools because she's been doing school shooting drills since kindergarten and because her teachers tell her that their jobs suck. I'm not saying these are good reasons (and she doesn't understand how hard it is to get a work visa outside your home country), but this is what she is expressing (strongly).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

Depends on the country, and having an EU passport.

Anonymous wrote:I know a few kids studying/studied abroad. 2 kids in ireland for financial reasons (1 has dual eu citizenship so cheaper). 1 at St. Andrews bc was best perceived prestige school kid was accepted to (didn't get into any ivy+ or Michigan, etc), and third kid was super smart interested in Oxford (great stats, had a clear academic focus, not much EC). One other kid started abroad but turned out not to be a good academic or social fit so transfered back to US. I think it's better for kids who know what they want to study bc kids apply in for a specific major whereas US schools allow more open exploration.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

for a US student who is hoping to be a doctor in the US, going to Oxford is a terrible move.

but I expect your kid isn't studying medicine at all. they're doing a humanities course. Let's say PPE starting next year. And you used the very highest possible room and board (and every extra) number from this chart https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs. But we don't have to do that, because we dont' do that when we're comparing other colleges. So:


Tuition: 43k GBP.
Room: 7500-9000 gbp. Let's use 9k.
Board: 2900-4900 gbp Let's use 4k.

That's 56k gbp. [b]that's $75,000 USD. . Also, Oxford is three years. So full PPE degree is $225,000. A steal compared to full pay private which, again for kids starting in 2026, will be 400k.

But you knew that.

What is your problem? My kid is paying $100k as stated by the university stat pages. And doing very well, thank you. Sorry you such a bizarre personality disorder that you have to fight about nonsense on mommy boards

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

+1 St. Andrew's and London School of Economics are both around GBP 35K (USD 46k) a year. That's a whole lot cheaper than ticket price for Northeastern and U Mich OOS.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

for a US student who is hoping to be a doctor in the US, going to Oxford is a terrible move.

but I expect your kid isn't studying medicine at all. they're doing a humanities course. Let's say PPE starting next year. And you used the very highest possible room and board (and every extra) number from this chart https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs. But we don't have to do that, because we dont' do that when we're comparing other colleges. So:


Tuition: 43k GBP.
Room: 7500-9000 gbp. Let's use 9k.
Board: 2900-4900 gbp Let's use 4k.

That's 56k gbp. [b]that's $75,000 USD. . Also, Oxford is three years. So full PPE degree is $225,000. A steal compared to full pay private which, again for kids starting in 2026, will be 400k.

But you knew that.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

Well, my kid is paying $100k for Oxford. Here’s the breakdown and link. Tuition ranges between 37,780 pounds to 62,820 pounds, more for medicine. Living costs range 15,795 to 18,995 pounds. 62,820 + 18,945 =81,765 81,765 pounds, which is $108,794 dollars. https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/fees-and-funding/living-costs

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

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Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious what motivates most applicants. Are there advantages? Or do you typically have a family reason?

DD is a couple years out, but we are considering a within-US move for in-state residency purposes and wondering what else to consider.

1. [url]Less expensive (even with the flights back and forth)[b]
2. We have family in the other country our kids applied to

Not anymore it’s $100k a year read posts above.

The $100K figure was only for certain majors at Oxford. International tuition and fees for most top ranked UK universities is considerably less than at Oxford.