Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 12:22     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
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Anonymous wrote:It's a great conference. No schools in it that aren't at least really solid. For overall academic quality, I'd tier it out like this:

Tier 1: NU, UCLA, UMich
Tier 2: Wisconsin, Washington, USC
Tier 3: Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Minnesota, Rutgers
Tier 4: IU, Michigan State
Tier 5: Iowa, Oregon, Nebraska

Obviously, there's a lot of variability across programs. The schools I put in Tier 3, for example, all have specific programs that clearly are first-tier.
Good list. But you need to break out the Tier 1. NU is way above UCLA and UMIch. It's in a category by itself for academics when compared to BIG10 schools
It's not. Some of its programs are great, others are merely very good--just like UCLA and Michigan.
Nope, vast majority of NU programs are better. It's a T10 school. UCLA and Michigan are not T10 material. It's also a 6-7K undergrad and private school. So obviously different than a massive state school in what it can offer.
If you're not just bloviating, identify the specific NU programs that are stronger than their UCLA and Michigan counterparts. I'll spot you journalism, but what else do you have? Seriously, I'll wait. NU's strengths around radio/film/TV/theatre fall short of UCLA's. Its engineering can't touch Michigan's. Across the pure academic departments, NU's faculty is no stronger than either UCLA's or Michigan's. Some kids benefit more from a smaller environment, for sure, but that's a question of fit, not of quality.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 11:38     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Northwestern
UCLA
Michigan/USC
Washington/Rutgers/Wisconsin/Illinois
Purdue/OSU/Maryland
MSU/Minnesota/Indiana/Penn State
Oregon/Iowa
Nebraska
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 11:35     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
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UCLA
Michigan
USC
Wisconsin/UIUC
Washington/Rutgers/UMD
Ohio State/Penn State/Purdue/Minn
Indiana/MSU/Iowa
Nebraska


You forgot Oregon


I wonder whether Oregon dominating the Big Ten will make more kids interested in applying?



Maybe for kids who make "football" a consideration in their college choices. But most academic kids don't do that. Sure, they may want school spirit, but it's not a top consideration. They can get that at the better Big10 schools and still have a great football team

Quack quack
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 11:33     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
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Anonymous wrote:NW
UCLA
Michigan
USC
Wisconsin/UIUC
Washington/Rutgers/UMD
Ohio State/Penn State/Purdue/Minn
Indiana/MSU/Iowa
Nebraska


You forgot Oregon


I wonder whether Oregon dominating the Big Ten will make more kids interested in applying?


Quack quack



Athletic success combined with kick-offs that are before 8pm central will genetate more interest among the "Big Ten Applicant Pool."
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 10:52     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:NW
UCLA
Michigan
USC
Wisconsin/UIUC
Washington/Rutgers/UMD
Ohio State/Penn State/Purdue/Minn
Indiana/MSU/Iowa
Nebraska


You forgot Oregon


I wonder whether Oregon dominating the Big Ten will make more kids interested in applying?


Quack quack
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 10:38     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It's a great conference. No schools in it that aren't at least really solid. For overall academic quality, I'd tier it out like this:

Tier 1: NU, UCLA, UMich
Tier 2: Wisconsin, Washington, USC
Tier 3: Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Minnesota, Rutgers
Tier 4: IU, Michigan State
Tier 5: Iowa, Oregon, Nebraska

Obviously, there's a lot of variability across programs. The schools I put in Tier 3, for example, all have specific programs that clearly are first-tier.
Good list. But you need to break out the Tier 1. NU is way above UCLA and UMIch. It's in a category by itself for academics when compared to BIG10 schools
It's not. Some of its programs are great, others are merely very good--just like UCLA and Michigan.


Nope, vast majority of NU programs are better. It's a T10 school. UCLA and Michigan are not T10 material. It's also a 6-7K undergrad and private school. So obviously different than a massive state school in what it can offer.

Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 10:36     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a great conference. No schools in it that aren't at least really solid. For overall academic quality, I'd tier it out like this:

Tier 1: NU, UCLA, UMich
Tier 2: Wisconsin, Washington, USC
Tier 3: Illinois, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Minnesota, Rutgers
Tier 4: IU, Michigan State
Tier 5: Iowa, Oregon, Nebraska

Obviously, there's a lot of variability across programs. The schools I put in Tier 3, for example, all have specific programs that clearly are first-tier.


Tier 1 NU
Tier 2 UCLA Mich USC
Tier 3 Washington Wisconsin
Everything else follows


This is the most accurate. NU is leaps and bounds ahead of the Tier 2. However, I'd keep the Tier 4 and 5 from above. Mich state is a much better school than Iowa, Oregon and nebraska
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 10:34     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and USC underrated in this thread, Wisconsin vastly overrated.
USC is Syracuse with better weather.



Lol 😆 No. compare the freshmen stats.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 10:02     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Anonymous wrote:UCLA and USC underrated in this thread, Wisconsin vastly overrated.
USC is Syracuse with better weather.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 08:40     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Anonymous wrote:Where’s Minnesota??

West of Wisconsin, East of the Dakotas and North of Iowa.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 06:59     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
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Anonymous wrote:if you go by lacrosse and other sports:

Johns Hopkins
NU
Michigan
Ucla
Usc
illinois
umd
the rest


Johns Hopkins is not better than Northwestern. And it's not really in the Big Ten.


It is by virtual of being a part of the academic alliance through its Lacrosse program.


It’s not though. Chicago (which was an OG Big Ten school) is part of the Big Ten Academic Alliance but Hopkins is not.


Chicago was a charter member of the big 10 and dropped its sports participation decades ago.


Chicago is no longer part of the Big Ten Academic Alliance.


Hm. You are correct, according to the BTAA website. https://btaa.org/about/member-universities

However, you are also incorrect, also according to the BTAA website. https://btaa.org/docs/default-source/big-ten-school-counselors-documents/2024_25-guide.pdf?sfvrsn=819e8b1d_1
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 05:41     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
UCLA and USC underrated in this thread, Wisconsin vastly overrated.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 05:35     Subject: Re:Rank the Big 10 academically
Anonymous wrote:The whole conference is “standard strong.” To borrow a phrase from admissions.
Northwestern is a cut above
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 03:32     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Where’s Minnesota??
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 00:27     Subject: Rank the Big 10 academically
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:if you go by lacrosse and other sports:

Johns Hopkins
NU
Michigan
Ucla
Usc
illinois
umd
the rest


Johns Hopkins is not better than Northwestern. And it's not really in the Big Ten.


It is by virtual of being a part of the academic alliance through its Lacrosse program.


It’s not though. Chicago (which was an OG Big Ten school) is part of the Big Ten Academic Alliance but Hopkins is not.


Chicago was a charter member of the big 10 and dropped its sports participation decades ago.


Chicago is no longer part of the Big Ten Academic Alliance.