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Post 11/15/2024 16:40     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


Clinton is a better analog. Clinton was pure trash, top to bottom, who was inexplicably popular only because he pandered to his base's every irrational desire.


Bill Clinton?

He presided over the best economy in the last 50 years and other than a blow job, was probably the best president in anyone reading this lifetime.


Ok? Trump has been the best president by far this century. Two can play at that game.


Except only MAGA cultists feel that way. Not historians, or anyone familiar with facts and history


Over half the country felt he was good enough to put in office again and by the end of 4 yrs, it will be an even higher percentage of people in support of him and for the continuation of policies he has started
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Post 11/15/2024 16:25     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:Just get on with your life people. Who the president is and their policies don't really affect real people much day to day.
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It will...hope we don't have another pandemic!


Like Bird Flu? The one that has been growing in the USA. The one that a teen in Canada was hospitalized for and that teen doesn't work on a farm or have contact with anyone who does?
Yeah, looking forward to something exploding like that with him in charge (NOT)
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Post 11/15/2024 16:23     Subject: Re:Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

Anonymous wrote:This one is different, even from Trump's first term. We are in real danger, imho. His picks for DOJ and DNI show us that he is serious about retribution. Gabbard cannot be trusted with our nation's secrets. She is an Assad & Putin sympathizer, as is Trump. His cabinet appointments can do real damage. RFK says that he wants a pause on all NIH's disease research. Don't even get me started on unflouridating the water or what he may or may not do with vaccines. The DOD pick is just completely unquailified to serve, and that is a best case. He is appointing unserious people for serious positions that can do so much damage. Calling this cabinet clowns is an insult to clowns.

I am so concerned with what he is going to do with our foreign policy. Even if he doesn't manage to pull us out of NATO, how will our allies ever trust us again? Even if a Dem is elected in 2028, why would they trust us again when they see that the American people just re-elected the most corrupt, evil person to be our president. He is going to abandon Ukraine to Putin. Putin may not invade Poland during Trump's term but he certainly will when a Dem gets elected and then it will be the Dem's fault that Putin invaded.

If he puts his tariff plan in place he is going to wreck the economy. I think the business community may be able to stop him there. He is going to pardon all of the people currently in jail for their actions on J6. Sure 6 people died and 140 injured but it was a "day of love."

I may live in my navy blue bubble here in NW DC but this country is profoundly stupid. (Yes, I understand that most of the country felt like Kamala felt that way about them and that's why Trump won. She wasn't wrong.)






well said! Could not have stated it any better myself!

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Post 11/15/2024 16:20     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t vote for Obama, but I woke up, went to work and got on with my life. Same with Biden. Being “sad, angry, and depressed” because your favored candidate didn’t win is a disproportionate reaction. Just move on. You’ll be fine


Maybe? Biden and Obama weren’t convicted felons.


I’m not outraged by his “felony” sorry.


+ 1,000,000

Everyone knows his “felonies” are a joke. Basically an accounting error that resulted in 30 trumped up felony charges by far left attornies. An absolute complete joke. After I heard those 30 guilties I sent Trump my first ever political donation. I went from barely on the fence tolerating him because of policy to an active supporter because it was so obviously corrupt. The “felonies” didn’t work for y’all the way you thought they would but you never ever learn. The word “Felon” and his mugshot are now iconic for Trump and raised him a ton of money.

Yet he was found guilty by a jury of his peers, who were vetted by his attorneys for any anti-Trump bias.

Meanwhile he had classified documents in the bathroom but had the good fortune to get a judge he himself had appointed. A judge who delayed, delayed and delayed before finally dismissing the case because she claimed the special counsel's appointment was invalid (something she could have done right off the bat - but that would given the appeals court time to intervene).

One of these was the justice system working as designed. The other was a joke. You tell me which was which.


He wasn’t going to get a fair trial in deep blue New York on Trumped up fake charges. His felony is a big fat joke that backfired big time.

Don’t even get into the classified Documents situation , Biden had classified documents stored in his GARAGE next to his car and skated because the judge essentially called out his dementia (even though when he took them he wasn’t suffering from Dementia and wasn’t even President , he was VP!) Neither one of them should have had classified documents in their homes but the difference in the way the two Presidents were treated is scandalous and terrifying double standard. Again, only made Trump stronger.


Difference is I'm 100% certain Biden was not attempting to sell state secrets to our enemies. And I'm 100% certain Trump was

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Post 11/15/2024 16:15     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans acted like Obama was the worst thing to ever happen to America. Just showed me that Republicans are clueless drama queens who believed every stupid thing to come out of the mouths of Rush Limbaugh and others.


You mean like democrats are doing now?


Difference is the democrats are accurate now. What trump is planning to do will make majority of people's lives worse, many for a significantly long time with the policies he plans to put into place. So yeah, we value democracy and dont want to live in a dictatorship. Also, 99% of what Rush and his type spew are lies, blatant lies. So yes, one side tells the facts/truth...the other lies and unfortunately, many just believe it
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Post 11/15/2024 16:11     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:Just get on with your life people. Who the president is and their policies don't really affect real people much day to day.


I’m a fed and my husband works in biotech and our child has an IEP so I fully expect this administration to affect us day-to-day if things continue on the current planned trajectory.


Oh man, you have the trifecta (like many others unfortunately have as well)
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Post 11/15/2024 16:10     Subject: Re:Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:^^^PP we live in completely different worlds. I don't even know where to begin to understand your viewpoint. I fear for my country because you just elected someone who is going to burn this country to the ground and make us unsafe in the world. I would sit back with popcorn but this is too serious not to be worried. He is an incompetent narcissist who seems to have no consequences for any of his actions. I am sick thinking about what this term will bring. If he manages to follow through on his promises, this country is going to be destroyed to such a degree that I don't think that the next person elected will be able to put it back together.



Truer words were never spoken. MAGA has an alternate reality where everything is upside down.

Every single thing they accuse dems of, they are doing. Then some.


No. I will give you one clear exception.

People on the right do not support censorship and have not censored the left. (Disagreeing on school curriculum is not “censorship” btw so don’t even start - different issue.)

We learned after Elon Musk purchased Twitter what we already all suspected. The federal government was colluding with big tech to censor tens of thousands of people who disagreed with them. About not just one or two but dozens of political issues. Then, when people started to try to create new platforms, they even tried to ban those platforms from the Apple / Google App Store duopoly. And get people fired from jobs. And get people kicked off Substack and their books removed from Amazon and even their websites pulled by ISPs.

It was the left that tried to create a “disinformation board.”

By contrast, you are all free to criticize Trump or the right or me or my religion as much as you wish. I’ll disagree with you, but I’ll defend your right and ability to do so.

Even now Jen Psaki is delusionally talking about how “laws need to change” - so she and her friends can be in charge of what is considered appropriate information.

This is fundamentally unAmerican. The reason our country exists is to protect freedom of speech, religion, assembly, etc. Anyone that wants to strip Americans of these rights cannot be trusted anywhere near political power.

Everything else I can grouse about and move on but that was the unforgivable sin.

And I’ll let Trump fire whatever bureaucrats he wants or file whatever lawsuits you want and shrug my shoulders unless and until you loose the right to speak out against it. Only then will I have your back again.
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Post 11/15/2024 16:09     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


Clinton is a better analog. Clinton was pure trash, top to bottom, who was inexplicably popular only because he pandered to his base's every irrational desire.


Bill Clinton?

He presided over the best economy in the last 50 years and other than a blow job, was probably the best president in anyone reading this lifetime.


Ok? Trump has been the best president by far this century. Two can play at that game.


Except only MAGA cultists feel that way. Not historians, or anyone familiar with facts and history
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Post 11/15/2024 16:08     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Clinton is a better analog. Clinton was pure trash, top to bottom, who was inexplicably popular only because he pandered to his base's every irrational desire.


Rewriting history much? Bill Clinton was/is widely considered the most popular president of the last generation. You may not like his Monica drama/lie, but he was very dominant as a politician.


And qualified, and put highly qualified people into positions as well. There is a huge difference between just having differing views and having dangerous view/actions
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Post 11/15/2024 16:06     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


only those conservatives who were racist. Reasonable conservatives were not like that.

This is entirely different. you are comparing Apples to Oranges.

And our country could be completely changed by this presidency (and not much for the good). If they ram thru cabinet positions as recess appointments on the extremely highly unqualified clowns, a lot of bad things will happen.

We need a Sec of defense and an AG who are even remotely qualified to do the job. Currently we don't have that being nominated. Even staunch R from Trumps first term are stating that. And those are just the two "worst ones" so far.

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Post 11/15/2024 16:03     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.

+100. This is excellent advice and people really should take it to heart. Politics is not a sport nor should it really even be a hobby.

It’s all fun and games until your same-sex marriage is dissolved. Or you need reproductive care that’s denied. Or crops fail due to extreme heat waves. Federal policies have real world consequences.


Correct. And the country just told the Democratic Party that it’s policies are bad for our safety, health, pocketbook… basically everything. And now trump is bringing in people to turn over the rotting apple cart marriage of the Deep state and special interests. It’s awesome. So glad. And I’m a federal employee who witnesses the waste first hand every day. Cannot wait. No more political friends making a fortune selling DEI training to the government. No more FDA employees revolving door into big pharma and into feed additives. No more revolving door of defense contractors into DoD policy positions. No more hand outs to environmental start ups while ignoring real things that work that can help the environment. NO MORE buying votes via student loan hand outs. Your team is OUT!


Can't wait to see what MAGA has in store. Better resolve all of these.


I don’t know if they will succeed but I know they will try. More than can be said for the democrats. They are just grifters who lecture Americans and tell us we are dumb and then raise our taxes. When we complain we are called Hitler and they try to buy us off using the taxes we paid. They tell us we are hateful for questioning whether a clearly senile man should run again. They tell us “he has a stutter!!” and expect us to believe that is why he is falling apart before our eyes. We are just supposed to be ok with a horrific end to Afghanistan. And we are supposed to be ok with Zelenskyy getting billions in support every 6 months with no plan for how to wrap it up. And we should be good with deteriorating public schools but dammit we can’t question teachers because they are at the right hand of the Father. ENOUGH! We have had it with democrats lecturing us and telling us what’s good for us. We are 1000% ready to try something new because you are not new. You are selling the same old crap that has never worked.


Well thought and said but do not waste your energy here... these people will never learn.

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Post 11/15/2024 15:59     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I have never seen a Democrat happy so do not worry
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Post 11/15/2024 15:52     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democrat and am depressed, feeling hopeless and angry. But is this what it felt like to the other side when Obama was president? B/c if it was, I can feel better. I remember conservatives crying bloody murder but obviously they survived it.


I think it's time for you to decide if you need to be this emotionally invested in politics. The super invested are like soccer hooligans to most people. It's fun to a point but it's weird. Find something else to love.

+100. This is excellent advice and people really should take it to heart. Politics is not a sport nor should it really even be a hobby.

It’s all fun and games until your same-sex marriage is dissolved. Or you need reproductive care that’s denied. Or crops fail due to extreme heat waves. Federal policies have real world consequences.


Correct. And the country just told the Democratic Party that it’s policies are bad for our safety, health, pocketbook… basically everything. And now trump is bringing in people to turn over the rotting apple cart marriage of the Deep state and special interests. It’s awesome. So glad. And I’m a federal employee who witnesses the waste first hand every day. Cannot wait. No more political friends making a fortune selling DEI training to the government. No more FDA employees revolving door into big pharma and into feed additives. No more revolving door of defense contractors into DoD policy positions. No more hand outs to environmental start ups while ignoring real things that work that can help the environment. NO MORE buying votes via student loan hand outs. Your team is OUT!


Can't wait to see what MAGA has in store. Better resolve all of these.


I don’t know if they will succeed but I know they will try. More than can be said for the democrats. They are just grifters who lecture Americans and tell us we are dumb and then raise our taxes. When we complain we are called Hitler and they try to buy us off using the taxes we paid. They tell us we are hateful for questioning whether a clearly senile man should run again. They tell us “he has a stutter!!” and expect us to believe that is why he is falling apart before our eyes. We are just supposed to be ok with a horrific end to Afghanistan. And we are supposed to be ok with Zelenskyy getting billions in support every 6 months with no plan for how to wrap it up. And we should be good with deteriorating public schools but dammit we can’t question teachers because they are at the right hand of the Father. ENOUGH! We have had it with democrats lecturing us and telling us what’s good for us. We are 1000% ready to try something new because you are not new. You are selling the same old crap that has never worked.
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Post 11/15/2024 15:46     Subject: Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

No, this is how I felt when Biden started destroying women's spaces with his nonsense executive orders on the rights of men who want to be women. When Democrats started reinterpreting Title IX to make males in women's sports a special class of person entitled to cheat, the level of rage and despair I felt was enormous. I'm so glad for a return to normalcy.
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Post 11/15/2024 15:41     Subject: Re:Is this how conservatives felt when Obama was president?

Anonymous wrote:^^^PP we live in completely different worlds. I don't even know where to begin to understand your viewpoint. I fear for my country because you just elected someone who is going to burn this country to the ground and make us unsafe in the world. I would sit back with popcorn but this is too serious not to be worried. He is an incompetent narcissist who seems to have no consequences for any of his actions. I am sick thinking about what this term will bring. If he manages to follow through on his promises, this country is going to be destroyed to such a degree that I don't think that the next person elected will be able to put it back together.



Truer words were never spoken. MAGA has an alternate reality where everything is upside down.

Every single thing they accuse dems of, they are doing. Then some.