Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

Where are you getting this concern from?

Stephen Miller is horrible xenophobe but he hasn't proposed taking away citizenship from naturalized citizens.

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The length of time you spend here isn't enough to ensure you will be treated as you think you should be. Neither is being a good person, or an upstanding member of your community.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jimmys-fight-for-his-rights

My father was an American born citizen and my mother was a Canadian born citizen. The government claims that I am not a legal citizen, even though I have lived here, voted, and paid taxes for 64 years.

The case you are quoting is not part of trump’s agenda
There are ppl who cannot prove they are citizens due to technicalities, he is not the only one.

What happens to people who were naturalized 60 years ago and can't prove the technicalities that would prevent that from being rolled back, once someone questions their naturalization process?

What happens to then now? There’s a case of at least another person, a doctor, born to an Iranian diplomat father who was erroneously given U.S. citizenship by birth

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend figuring out an exit strategy and planning a retreat, so that you can have a hope of a safe landing instead of waiting til Trump's ICE takes you by surprise in the middle of the night.

Please stop feeding the hysteria. Somebody might kill themselves over completely manufactured and impossible scenario.

No people should kill themselves. Nobody has encouraged that, either. But we should believe people when they tell us what they are going to do, and plan for it in case it happens.

Nobody said there would be massive deportations of naturalized citizens. Stop scaring people. They could leave the country for no reason, or worse. It's a dangerous thing to do.

Isn’t Stephen miller the new policy advisor for trump? Isn’t he going to “turbocharge” the deportation of illegal and naturalized citizens?

Where did he say that naturalized citizens are the target of his policy?

In a tweet that went viral.

He didn't offer a lot of specifics. Historically, the federal government has not put a lot of effort into identifying people who fraudulently obtained citizenship (e.g. lied about criminal records). It could be as simple as them putting more effort into finding people who lied on their applications. Or it could go further into trying to argue any Democrats are communists and therefore ineligible for naturalization. The former seems far more likely immediately. The latter seems like something that will take a long time to get to logistically and politically. As a naturalized citizen, I'm not thrilled, but not panicking yet, nor do I support spreading panic among people like me. We don't need that right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Will those who are here legally, on green cards, a non-birth citizens have their status changed? Is this part of the new policy change by Trump? I have been a naturalized citizen since I was 2 years old but am increasingly nervous that my citizenship will be taken away if Stephen Miller has his way regarding this policy.

At least part of the plan is to take back naturalized citizenship and then deport.

Can you get ahead of this by making sure you have a backup plan for where to go (where you are likely to be able to get a job, etc.) if and when you are deported?

To anybody "worried" and "ouraged" about this from their safe white neighborhoods... Israel just implemented this for Israeli citizens who happen to be Palestinian. Deportation of family members without due process for any Palestinian-Israeli citizen who knew beforehand about "terrorist" acts. And we all know how war criminals decide who's in that camp--any woman or child who happens to be sheltering in a school or hospital, right? Another way to maintain the racist, apartheid policy of European Jew majority voting bloc.

Anonymous wrote:Let's hope that you haven't made any neighbors or any co-workers mad because I can 100% guarantee you there is going to be a snitch line for this

There most certainly already is. The "Unethical Life Tips" subreddit is already full of people asking about how to report neighbors and co-workers who might be skirting immigration laws -- even in the smallest way, such as doing yard work for cash when their Visa prohibits working -- and who were vociferous in support of Trump.

I'm not sharing the tip line, but it is there. I'm also not in support of doing this, but I do know people are doing it. Again, I think it's better to know that and be prepared. That doesn't mean I like it happening -- just that I acknowledge the reality of what is going on.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 48 million immigrants in the U.S, out of those 48 million, 24.5 million are naturalized citizens, total U.S population is 330 million. I dare Donald Trump to deport 48 million people and make America great. These 48 million people are doctors, Silicon Valley CEOs, researchers, bankers, laborers, gardeners, cooks, produce packers, meat packers, nurses, 70% of IT and other countless occupations and business owners.

So, by the logic being used in this thread, all legal/naturalized as well as illegal residents will be deported .If you want to deport 48 million people, once you are done America won't even have a bowl to beg in forget about being great again. The economics of these deportations will be so devastating to the U.S dollar that people will actually voluntarily leave this country.

I am a legal naturalized citizen, so is my spouse and my kids were born here (I am a dual citizen though), these thoughts haven't even entered my mind. Nobody cares about Stephen Miller or this border guy, economics will determine the policy and numbers just don't work. Sure, Trump will do performative nonsense and some illegal residents will get deported but that's the extent of it. Full disclosure, I do support border tightening and monitoring illegal entry, every country has the right to defend it's borders.

OP, if you are excessively anxious types, then move majority of your money to your home country,that may buy you peace of mind.

Oh, you have not been paying attention.

Nobody said that everybody in these groups WOULD be deported, just that they COULD, if Trump's administration follows through.

Have a wrong sounding name? Wrong skin? Maybe a job that someone else wants? PP, you don't have to deport 48 million in order to deport 480,000. Come on -- you know better than to self-soothe with a thesis that holds no water.

Stop fear mongering, this already caused Democrats to lose the election.

And so now Democrats should be restrained in what they say because, what, they might re-lose the same election?

Pay attention. This has all already happened.

It's the MAGA way of trying to censor us. Except honeybadger don't care anymore

The great part about having nothing to lose is when you realize you have nothing to lose.

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Anonymous wrote:I would recommend figuring out an exit strategy and planning a retreat, so that you can have a hope of a safe landing instead of waiting til Trump's ICE takes you by surprise in the middle of the night.

Please stop feeding the hysteria. Somebody might kill themselves over completely manufactured and impossible scenario.

No people should kill themselves. Nobody has encouraged that, either. But we should believe people when they tell us what they are going to do, and plan for it in case it happens.

Nobody said there would be massive deportations of naturalized citizens. Stop scaring people. They could leave the country for no reason, or worse. It's a dangerous thing to do.

Isn’t Stephen miller the new policy advisor for trump? Isn’t he going to “turbocharge” the deportation of illegal and naturalized citizens?

Where did he say that naturalized citizens are the target of his policy?

In a tweet that went viral.

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Anonymous wrote:You know dangood and well. They have talked about denaturalizing American citizens to deport them.... If you don't want to believe it, that's fine. But I'm not going to sit here and bring out project 2025 and highlight every area that's going to impact your life. Either you figure it out or don't I really don't care. Like I said, I'm white and I really am nothing to worry about

You are the one scaring already every anxious people and making outrageous claim that they need to prepare for deportation. The burden of proof is on you.

Nevertheless, I looked at "project 2025", a 900 page document which I am sure you read very closely, and this is what I found:

[blah blah blah]

So, it's all about enforcing existing laws, and making sure there are sufficient resources to do so. Oh, there is not a single mention of "naturalized citizens" throughout the 900 pages.

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029
Stephen Miller on X: "@JackPosobiec
Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged."

Refers to the DoJ Civil Division’s "Denaturalization Section." Its current mandate is to go after specific groups of naturalized citizens who have offended morality by breaking certain laws, etc. But of course there are some Haitian immigrants in Ohio who would love to educate you on whether Trump's targeted spray is really that targeted, or that accurate. In a new order with no guardrails, the DoJ could be directed to go against any group. Who is going to stop that mandate?

For those who believe “it couldn’t happen here”: you should know that immigration advocates are concerned. Do what you will.


https://theimmigrationhub.org/press/gop-plans-to-turbocharge-trumps-denaturalization-project-threaten-the-nations-core-values/

Kerri Talbot, Executive Director of the Immigration Hub, issued the following statement on Citizenship Day.

“On Citizenship Day, we recognize and celebrate the millions of immigrants who have embraced the opportunities of U.S. citizenship. For these individuals, citizenship represents a commitment to the values of democracy, equality, and shared prosperity that define our nation. Naturalized citizens have long been key contributors to America’s growth and success, enriching our economy, culture, and communities.

“However, it is imperative to acknowledge that these same citizens would be under attack in a Trump-Vance administration. Their Project 2025 agenda would target naturalized citizens and see those who have earned their place in this country deported. The denaturalization campaign that began under Trump, and which close advisor Stephen Miller now promises to “turbocharge” is an attack on the fundamental principles of fairness, stability, and equal rights that citizenship represents. Such policies are rooted in fear and exclusion, not in the principles of justice and equality that should guide our nation.”



https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/trump-advisors-turbocharged-denaturalization-project-sparks-fear-among-immigrant/

A tweet from Trump senior advisor Stephen Miller has sparked intense debate and concern among immigrant communities after Trump’s recent victory. Miller’s tweet, which has gone viral, reads, “Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged,” hinting at an aggressive expansion of efforts to revoke citizenship for naturalized Americans. Miller’s promise of a “turbocharged” denaturalization effort under a potential Trump-Vance administration has left immigrant advocates sounding alarms over the potential consequences for millions of U.S. citizens.

Anonymous wrote:The people saying he's not going to do anything or he is just joking or it's all hyperbole. The point is no one knows what the hell Trump is going to do. You have some of his closest allies coming out saying they're denaturalizing people. You have others saying they're turbocharging the deportation process others yet saying they're focusing on illegal immigrants and are going to go after the dreamers and more from there. Who knows where they stop. Maybe they'll do none of it. Maybe they'll do all of it, but that's kind of the point, isn't it? We voted for someone who's a ticking Time bomb and can put anyone he wants in his crosshairs at any moment

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling the denaturalization of citizens is going to be highly targeted based on who's Trump's enemies are and whether or not they work for someone or a company who he sees as a competitor. So depending where you work or what you do you could be fine but enough to where I would be able to sleep peacefully every night for 4 years. No?.

I lived in China. This is what happens. You piss someone off and it's all over. Does not matter how much money, power, friends you have. If someone turns on you, and there is a will, there is a way.

Yep. Seen it happen.

The people saying he's not going to do anything or he is just joking or it's all hyperbole. The point is no one knows what the hell Trump is going to do. You have some of his closest allies coming out saying they're denaturalizing people. You have others saying they're turbocharging the deportation process others yet saying they're focusing on illegal immigrants and are going to go after the dreamers and more from there. Who knows where they stop. Maybe they'll do none of it. Maybe they'll do all of it, but that's kind of the point, isn't it? We voted for someone who's a ticking Time bomb and can put anyone he wants in his crosshairs at any moment

Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling the denaturalization of citizens is going to be highly targeted based on who's Trump's enemies are and whether or not they work for someone or a company who he sees as a competitor. So depending where you work or what you do you could be fine but enough to where I would be able to sleep peacefully every night for 4 years. No?.

I lived in China. This is what happens. You piss someone off and it's all over. Does not matter how much money, power, friends you have. If someone turns on you, and there is a will, there is a way.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 48 million immigrants in the U.S, out of those 48 million, 24.5 million are naturalized citizens, total U.S population is 330 million. I dare Donald Trump to deport 48 million people and make America great. These 48 million people are doctors, Silicon Valley CEOs, researchers, bankers, laborers, gardeners, cooks, produce packers, meat packers, nurses, 70% of IT and other countless occupations and business owners.

So, by the logic being used in this thread, all legal/naturalized as well as illegal residents will be deported .If you want to deport 48 million people, once you are done America won't even have a bowl to beg in forget about being great again. The economics of these deportations will be so devastating to the U.S dollar that people will actually voluntarily leave this country.

I am a legal naturalized citizen, so is my spouse and my kids were born here (I am a dual citizen though), these thoughts haven't even entered my mind. Nobody cares about Stephen Miller or this border guy, economics will determine the policy and numbers just don't work. Sure, Trump will do performative nonsense and some illegal residents will get deported but that's the extent of it. Full disclosure, I do support border tightening and monitoring illegal entry, every country has the right to defend it's borders.

OP, if you are excessively anxious types, then move majority of your money to your home country,that may buy you peace of mind.

Oh, you have not been paying attention.

Nobody said that everybody in these groups WOULD be deported, just that they COULD, if Trump's administration follows through.

Have a wrong sounding name? Wrong skin? Maybe a job that someone else wants? PP, you don't have to deport 48 million in order to deport 480,000. Come on -- you know better than to self-soothe with a thesis that holds no water.

Stop fear mongering, this already caused Democrats to lose the election.

And so now Democrats should be restrained in what they say because, what, they might re-lose the same election?

Pay attention. This has all already happened.

It's the MAGA way of trying to censor us. Except honeybadger don't care anymore

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Anonymous wrote:There are 48 million immigrants in the U.S, out of those 48 million, 24.5 million are naturalized citizens, total U.S population is 330 million. I dare Donald Trump to deport 48 million people and make America great. These 48 million people are doctors, Silicon Valley CEOs, researchers, bankers, laborers, gardeners, cooks, produce packers, meat packers, nurses, 70% of IT and other countless occupations and business owners.

So, by the logic being used in this thread, all legal/naturalized as well as illegal residents will be deported .If you want to deport 48 million people, once you are done America won't even have a bowl to beg in forget about being great again. The economics of these deportations will be so devastating to the U.S dollar that people will actually voluntarily leave this country.

I am a legal naturalized citizen, so is my spouse and my kids were born here (I am a dual citizen though), these thoughts haven't even entered my mind. Nobody cares about Stephen Miller or this border guy, economics will determine the policy and numbers just don't work. Sure, Trump will do performative nonsense and some illegal residents will get deported but that's the extent of it. Full disclosure, I do support border tightening and monitoring illegal entry, every country has the right to defend it's borders.

OP, if you are excessively anxious types, then move majority of your money to your home country,that may buy you peace of mind.

Oh, you have not been paying attention.

Nobody said that everybody in these groups WOULD be deported, just that they COULD, if Trump's administration follows through.

Have a wrong sounding name? Wrong skin? Maybe a job that someone else wants? PP, you don't have to deport 48 million in order to deport 480,000. Come on -- you know better than to self-soothe with a thesis that holds no water.

Stop fear mongering, this already caused Democrats to lose the election.

And so now Democrats should be restrained in what they say because, what, they might re-lose the same election?

Pay attention. This has all already happened.