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Anonymous
11/06/2024 13:28
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem like there is any VP candidate home state advantage. I don't think a Harris/Shapiro ticket would have won either. Harris was ok, but not awesome and had a late start thanks to Biden.
Do you really think that if Biden had not run that Harris would have had a chance at the nomination? She would have been gone at the first primary state.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 13:25
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was Kamala. Kamala was the wrong pick. Michelle Obama could’ve won if she’d ran. Kamala lacks depth and personality.
This!! I’ve been screaming this since August. The problem was Kamala, she wasn’t ready and was too nervous and flip flopped too much. And Walz was just….there? That’s all I can say about him.
If we had a Michele Obama and Pete Buttigieg ticket, they would’ve easily won imo.
Yeah ok keep dreaming. That is what is wrong with you people. Pick someone with good policy not just because of skin color, gender, gay.
I think the winner of the election was picked based on skin color and gender.
Well we certainly know that the current VP was -- the man who picked her literally said so.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 13:24
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Yes, a very big one!
Anonymous
11/06/2024 13:23
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was a lightweight. His folksy schtick on 60 Minutes wasn’t even cute. I don’t think he hurt her but he definitely didn’t help.
PA was always a must win state. Why they didn’t pick Josh Shapiro as VP was baffling.
They lost WI and MI, Shapiro would not have helped there. Walz was fine, a little out of his depth and didn't do so well under pressure, but he wasn't a hue problem. A weak candidate who could not articulate a clear policy platform was the primary problem, and the majority's perception that the country has moved too far left on immigration and other issues. Harris tried to thread the needle with too many constituencies, which made her seem weak and wishy washy. A strong, articulate moderate who made a point of putting Biden in the rearview, and who always kept the focus on the bread and butter issues American care about, could have won.
It’s rare to find such reasonable takes on here. Good job.
Agree. Both candidates were terrible.
Its sad. Terrible choice to make between two extremes.
Too bad we couldn't have just had a regular primary.
That’s on Joe Biden. He went back on his promise to be a one-term president! He dropped out way too late.
He NEVER promised any such thing. Don't try to blame this on President Biden. The blame is on the traitorous Dems who threw President Biden under the bus after a single lackluster debate performance just because Trump had a momentary surge after the failed assasination attempt.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 13:13
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
I was shocked she did not pick Shapiro as I didn't want her to but felt that if she wanted to win, she had to. When she passed him up, I knew she was done.
Here's the thing about Biden - he picked her to win. It's about politics sometimes. I disagree with his choice but understand it.
I would have disagreed about Shapiro but it needed to be done if she was going to win. Picking Walz was ridiculous. She's not a politician. Maybe a policy wonk?? But not leader of the free world. You just can't run from the hard decisions - that's a big red flag. If you have one flag, there's others.
Yes, Walz was a mistake. He was terrible in the debate v. Vance who is a cretin. If you can't beat a guy like Vance, you suck.
Here's the thing about Biden - he picked her to win. It's about politics sometimes. I disagree with his choice but understand it.
I would have disagreed about Shapiro but it needed to be done if she was going to win. Picking Walz was ridiculous. She's not a politician. Maybe a policy wonk?? But not leader of the free world. You just can't run from the hard decisions - that's a big red flag. If you have one flag, there's others.
Yes, Walz was a mistake. He was terrible in the debate v. Vance who is a cretin. If you can't beat a guy like Vance, you suck.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 12:54
Subject: Re:Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:
I can't stand the guy, but I am the product of two parents who were teachers. My mom taught at a Title I school, too. So, I will just say that the tampons in a men's room are not the worst idea. My mom used to provide so many personal hygiene supplies for her students and even their relatives. She had students ask to take pads/tampons home for their moms or sisters. We all know how hard that must have been for teen boys who avoid anything mensuration related as much as possible.
Also, I have 2 daughters who play sports. When they are the visitors at another school, they use the boys locker room/bathrooms. Having free pads/tampons in there would make things easier.
Moms asking their sons to borrow a tampon from his teacher and bring it home for her to use? umm, okay.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 12:52
Subject: Re:Was Walz a mistake?
I can't stand the guy, but I am the product of two parents who were teachers. My mom taught at a Title I school, too. So, I will just say that the tampons in a men's room are not the worst idea. My mom used to provide so many personal hygiene supplies for her students and even their relatives. She had students ask to take pads/tampons home for their moms or sisters. We all know how hard that must have been for teen boys who avoid anything mensuration related as much as possible.
Also, I have 2 daughters who play sports. When they are the visitors at another school, they use the boys locker room/bathrooms. Having free pads/tampons in there would make things easier.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 12:33
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was a lightweight. His folksy schtick on 60 Minutes wasn’t even cute. I don’t think he hurt her but he definitely didn’t help.
PA was always a must win state. Why they didn’t pick Josh Shapiro as VP was baffling.
They lost WI and MI, Shapiro would not have helped there. Walz was fine, a little out of his depth and didn't do so well under pressure, but he wasn't a hue problem. A weak candidate who could not articulate a clear policy platform was the primary problem, and the majority's perception that the country has moved too far left on immigration and other issues. Harris tried to thread the needle with too many constituencies, which made her seem weak and wishy washy. A strong, articulate moderate who made a point of putting Biden in the rearview, and who always kept the focus on the bread and butter issues American care about, could have won.
It’s rare to find such reasonable takes on here. Good job.
Agree. Both candidates were terrible.
Its sad. Terrible choice to make between two extremes.
Too bad we couldn't have just had a regular primary.
For both parties, that would have been idea.
But the problem for democrats was that Biden picked Harris for VP, and to get rid of him they either had to pick her or risk passing her over and pissing off a lot of people. So she was the only possible choice, even though she wasn't the best. If only Biden hadn't decided to run again in the first place, and then we could have actually had a primary.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 11:39
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:Was he the wrong vp pick?
No. The VP pick wouldn’t have made a difference. The headwinds against the Democrats were too strong. They made a colossal blunder when Biden decided to run for a second term.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 11:38
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Folks are tired of the elites. Enough of Obamas, Clintons, Hollywood and Fake News. It’s over.
This is interesting to me because a born-rich Wharton grad and a Yalie just beat two people with no Ivy League credentials. Walz was a school teacher who attended State schools and served in the Guard. Harris went to USF for law school and worked her way up in the prosecutors office. Neither grew up wealthy. They aren't elite.
I actually think Americans LOVE elites and are suspicious of people who don't have elite backgrounds. They want an elite who is folksy and doesn't feel like he's (and he's got to be a he) condescending to them. GW Bush or Clinton. Obama managed to do this despite initially being too slick, through disciplining his public image and utilizing oratory skill. Trump did it by being gross and flooding the zone (literally he just says things over and over until people believe them). But you need to start with the Ivy League education and elite resume and then dumb it down. You can't do the reverse. People won't believe you (especially if you're a woman or not white).
Biden is somewhat of a counter-example, but I think your point is generally true.
I think Biden's long Senate career and "old white guy-ness" served as a stand in for an elite background for Biden. Also the fact that he was running against a field of women, minority candidates, and a gay man. He became the nominee by default because voters did not feel the general electorate would accept the others. And they were probably right!
Anonymous
11/06/2024 11:38
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Was he the wrong vp pick?
Yes! She should have picked Shapiro but she cared more about someone outshining her than she cared about the country.
But I don’t know if she would have won with Shapiro either. She might have got PA though.
I also am surprised they didn’t ask Michelle Obama (or maybe they did) to step up just for one term. She could have won.
I thought the same thing a few weeks ago, but that was a pretty big margin in PA last night. It would have been closer with Shapiro, but I think he would have risked the embarrassment of losing his own state.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 11:37
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He was a lightweight. His folksy schtick on 60 Minutes wasn’t even cute. I don’t think he hurt her but he definitely didn’t help.
PA was always a must win state. Why they didn’t pick Josh Shapiro as VP was baffling.
They lost WI and MI, Shapiro would not have helped there. Walz was fine, a little out of his depth and didn't do so well under pressure, but he wasn't a hue problem. A weak candidate who could not articulate a clear policy platform was the primary problem, and the majority's perception that the country has moved too far left on immigration and other issues. Harris tried to thread the needle with too many constituencies, which made her seem weak and wishy washy. A strong, articulate moderate who made a point of putting Biden in the rearview, and who always kept the focus on the bread and butter issues American care about, could have won.
It’s rare to find such reasonable takes on here. Good job.
Agree. Both candidates were terrible.
Its sad. Terrible choice to make between two extremes.
Too bad we couldn't have just had a regular primary.
That’s on Joe Biden. He went back on his promise to be a one-term president! He dropped out way too late.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 11:35
Subject: Was Walz a mistake?
Anonymous wrote:joe rogan has said kamala picked tim when she was sleep deprived
I don't think Harris picked anyone. I think she was pushed into the position and whoever was running things picked Walz. (That was part of the problem with Harris. Who really is running the show since she could rarely articulate anything.) And who's to say that they had any better choice? Shapiro might have turned it down, understanding that there was a high chance that this was going to go sideways--which it did--and ruin any future chances.
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