Anonymous wrote:Good lord. I do not want to hear about Martha’s affairs or how her husband was aggressive in bed and she liked it. Anyone relate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is clearly very smart and beautiful with a strong work ethic; however, to get ahead, she cheated and lied in both her personal life and her professional life.
I think there is substantial evidence, on a deeper dive, that through all eras of her life she did go that way. ( Like many CEO's can and do when they feel it is required). She had a lot of pride/hubris/arrogance in her early life and she ultimately paid for it both personally and professionally. She had to be the best and she had to win. This psychological tendency/drive runs and ran parallel to many true strengths, co existed with them and does not and did not take away from her enormous knowledge base, intelligence, strength, resiliency and understanding of her brand . I see that part of her as the dark side of her perfectionism and her struggle accepting limitations and flaws, in herself and others. (So she would embellish or lie to cover or avoid a shame she would feel in falling short, being exposed/looking bad in her own mind). I think she's grown, at the end of the doc she says she has learned to deal with imperfection.
Yes. But, boy---she got screwed with that court case/jail time. It was NOTHING compared to all the men that have done truly bad things. Christ---look at Trump and everyone involved in that administration. Look at true insider trading bigwigs. They really went after her--they couldn't even go for her on insider trading so they did a witch hunt. It would never have happened to anyone else. I'm not saying she likely wasn't guilty of taking that 'stock tip'..it just was such small peanuts compared to so many big wigs.
I was truly amazed by her endless energy and drive. Was she a pleasant person? Nah. I don't think she would have achieved such success if she was. It's who she was. She is highly intelligent and her manner and tone just cracks me up. Also, how she trivialized 'the Irishman' and the Duomo kiss---I was dying. I remember watching live when she did the Bieber roast and it was iconic. So Funny!!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's that?
83 year old martha Stewart talking about her s3x life.
Why, at a certain age, can people not discuss sex? You don’t get to decide when parts of who they are become off limits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's that?
83 year old martha Stewart talking about her s3x life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is beautiful, smart, ruthless and savvy, but also soulless, without any humility, and zero genuine kindness. Very Connecticut 60's-80's. Awful. My DH was watching this and I had to leave the room.
This. I was watching it thinking "who would admire this?" I would much rather be known for my kind soul, my humility, and kindness than be beautiful/smart/rich.
+1. Why has this old hag been shoved down our throats for the last 30 to 40 years?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can't she just go away and give younger women a chance? Greedy as hell til the grave, huh.
The crown is waiting for anyone to snatch. The problem is there hasn't been anyone with the knowledge and talent of Queen Martha
Trying to think of younger people who've tried to do something similar:
Meghan Markle (The Tig)
Blake Lively
Reese Witherspoon
Bethany Frankel
The Pioneer Woman
Ballerina Farm
Probably influencers I haven't heard of.
I think Gwyneth Paltrow has been somewaht successful as a successor, though with less focus on home and more focus on health/well-being.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can't she just go away and give younger women a chance? Greedy as hell til the grave, huh.
The crown is waiting for anyone to snatch. The problem is there hasn't been anyone with the knowledge and talent of Queen Martha
Trying to think of younger people who've tried to do something similar:
Meghan Markle (The Tig)
Blake Lively
Reese Witherspoon
Bethany Frankel
The Pioneer Woman
Ballerina Farm
Probably influencers I haven't heard of.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is beautiful, smart, ruthless and savvy, but also soulless, without any humility, and zero genuine kindness. Very Connecticut 60's-80's. Awful. My DH was watching this and I had to leave the room.
This. I was watching it thinking "who would admire this?" I would much rather be known for my kind soul, my humility, and kindness than be beautiful/smart/rich.
I loved the documentary. I think it was fascinating, but part of the takeaway was that her great beauty + ruthlessness + demanding nature + work habits were the roots of her success: she got into Wall Street that way, didn't care about neglecting her family to launch her empire. She basically lacks all qualities that make a person admirable on a deep level, but superficially she is a really impressive success story. As for the trial, it was pretty crazy how her bff threw her under the bus on the stand. I looked it all up and apparently after the trial she said Martha possibly didn't even say those words, and she wrote a tell-all about their friendships. So if that's the best friend she had in the world...It's all very sad.
Telling the truth under oath isn't throwing someone under the bus
Erring on the side of "she probably said it so I'll say she did and ruin her life" when you aren't sure she actually said it is definitely throwing someone under the bus.
Absolutely. Do you all have even the faintest concept of "under oath" and "beyond a reasonable doubt"?