Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree but the point of this article is that these expensive DEI programs are not it. I personally HATE these types of programs- and honestly I feel they primarily benefit the people who run them- but I very much support diversity. I just don’t think this is the way to get there.
This. Intervention should be aimed at K8. The earlier the intervention, the better. College should be, primarily, a meritocracy.
It’s never too late for people to learn about being inclusive. Definitely some DCUM posters would be benefit from some DEI awareness.
+100 The irony of bashing DEI programs while not fully understanding the issues is profound.
Read the article. Feelings of inclusion were exactly what were negatively impacted by Michigan’s (expensive!) programs. You can’t just mouth words like inclusion and belonging without evidence to back up that the programs actually inspire such a community.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.
He may be assumed to be a "DEI" grad by potential employers.
Yes, we lie awake nights concerned about our white, top grades, econ major kid being pigeon-holed in this manor.
But seriously, as others have posted, we have no regrets about part of the tuition money we've spent going to fund this experiment (if it even has - didn't see where the funds came from). Race relations in this country are fraught and complicated and Michigan is at least trying.
DEI is breeding resentment and making this country evenmore divisive.
No, the very fine republicans are butthurt that we are no longer automatically putting people on a pedestal just because they are old, white Christian wealthy males.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.
He may be assumed to be a "DEI" grad by potential employers.
Yes, we lie awake nights concerned about our white, top grades, econ major kid being pigeon-holed in this manor.
But seriously, as others have posted, we have no regrets about part of the tuition money we've spent going to fund this experiment (if it even has - didn't see where the funds came from). Race relations in this country are fraught and complicated and Michigan is at least trying.
DEI is breeding resentment and making this country evenmore divisive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.
He may be assumed to be a "DEI" grad by potential employers.
Anonymous wrote:Agree but the point of this article is that these expensive DEI programs are not it. I personally HATE these types of programs- and honestly I feel they primarily benefit the people who run them- but I very much support diversity. I just don’t think this is the way to get there.
This. Intervention should be aimed at K8. The earlier the intervention, the better. College should be, primarily, a meritocracy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.
He may be assumed to be a "DEI" grad by potential employers.
Yes, we lie awake nights concerned about our white, top grades, econ major kid being pigeon-holed in this manor.
But seriously, as others have posted, we have no regrets about part of the tuition money we've spent going to fund this experiment (if it even has - didn't see where the funds came from). Race relations in this country are fraught and complicated and Michigan is at least trying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree but the point of this article is that these expensive DEI programs are not it. I personally HATE these types of programs- and honestly I feel they primarily benefit the people who run them- but I very much support diversity. I just don’t think this is the way to get there.
This. Intervention should be aimed at K8. The earlier the intervention, the better. College should be, primarily, a meritocracy.
It’s never too late for people to learn about being inclusive. Definitely some DCUM posters would be benefit from some DEI awareness.
+100 The irony of bashing DEI programs while not fully understanding the issues is profound.
DEI programs are not exempt from criticism.
That's a key feature. DEI statements are part of hiring and promotion so criticizing or opposing them destroys careers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree but the point of this article is that these expensive DEI programs are not it. I personally HATE these types of programs- and honestly I feel they primarily benefit the people who run them- but I very much support diversity. I just don’t think this is the way to get there.
This. Intervention should be aimed at K8. The earlier the intervention, the better. College should be, primarily, a meritocracy.
It’s never too late for people to learn about being inclusive. Definitely some DCUM posters would be benefit from some DEI awareness.
+100 The irony of bashing DEI programs while not fully understanding the issues is profound.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.
He may be assumed to be a "DEI" grad by potential employers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree but the point of this article is that these expensive DEI programs are not it. I personally HATE these types of programs- and honestly I feel they primarily benefit the people who run them- but I very much support diversity. I just don’t think this is the way to get there.
This. Intervention should be aimed at K8. The earlier the intervention, the better. College should be, primarily, a meritocracy.
It’s never too late for people to learn about being inclusive. Definitely some DCUM posters would be benefit from some DEI awareness.
+100 The irony of bashing DEI programs while not fully understanding the issues is profound.
DEI programs are not exempt from criticism.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree but the point of this article is that these expensive DEI programs are not it. I personally HATE these types of programs- and honestly I feel they primarily benefit the people who run them- but I very much support diversity. I just don’t think this is the way to get there.
This. Intervention should be aimed at K8. The earlier the intervention, the better. College should be, primarily, a meritocracy.
It’s never too late for people to learn about being inclusive. Definitely some DCUM posters would be benefit from some DEI awareness.
+100 The irony of bashing DEI programs while not fully understanding the issues is profound.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.
He may be assumed to be a "DEI" grad by potential employers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay so takeaway is:
Michigan = bad
Don't let your kids apply to it.
Please
Right? As a Michigan parent, this is not going to matter. Michigan is still (like all the other top schools) going to be a huge prize. My kid is having the time of his life and getting a great education. People are always thrilled for him that he got in and is there. This article isn't changing anything.